spotify's top podcaster breaking his
silence joe rogan had to respond finally
to the whole spotify rogan the podcaster
i told you about before podcaster joe
rogan who is a frequent spreader of
coveted misinformation was fact check a
fact check hello friends so there's of
course no avoiding joe rogan and his
controversy with spotify but while you
kind of find tons of videos on the
latest news i think there was a part
that was missing i have a strong
personal opinion about this and i am
going to tell you what that opinion is
but first we are going to cover the
facts how did this guy become the most
significant interviewer in the world
even bigger than
her is this a joke let's talk about joe
rogan in this episode of company
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joe rogan didn't invent podcast nor did
he add a revolutionary new formula to
the mix but he is the biggest name in
the business and whether you like him or
not he is
good at it he's a brilliant interviewer
who knows
but a bunch of different topics or at
least he pretends to plus he's an expert
in relaxed conversation so his guests
feel safe and they talk about anything
without consequences i said jesus christ
i don't know if i'm gonna shift myself a
fart but let me just take a chance in no
time rogan's stream of consciousness
traps them in and then even elon musk
went out and smote some sandwiches and
and made funny faces and that little
stunt of course pissed a bunch of people
off but if you look past if you look
past his bro persona there's someone who
holds his cool he knows when to pressure
and he knows when not to plus joe rogan
loves to stare stuff up add to this the
fact that his guests are polarizing for
better or for worse that
converts into a perfect podcast recipe
some of his guests are extreme opposites
you have alex jones and bernie sanders
or jordan peterson henry rowlands janmi
park a north korean defector the list is
endless and some big names harbor
criticism and the media of course loves
preying upon his political views and
it's understandable it's the biggest
podcast in the world after all that's
drawn to have people talking about it
now one of the main criticisms is the
frequency of a certain type of guest and
rogan can take a hit or two when it
comes to having arguments i'm not going
to sit here with no medical degree
listening to you with no medical degree
with an american flag behind you smoking
a cigar acting like we know what's up
and this is important very important
there are instances when he changes his
mind or at least he chooses to laugh
instead of arguing which is a brilliant
strategy when interviewing this leads us
to another point about rogan for years
he has used platforms such as blogs to
discuss topics that interest him
and these go from conspiracy theories to
such taboos as politics and religion
fans loved these blogs and as his brand
name grew the topics became even more
controversial first he criticized
transgender fighters and then he dove
into vaccines but i'm getting ahead of
myself we'll we're gonna get there the
point is
you can you can get the essence of why
rogan became a household name and his
biography is just as essential to this
story so here's a quick overview of his
life he grew up a nomad his earliest
childhood was violent but his mother
divorced his father and then married a
traveling hippie
[ __ ] my father my real father was crazy
he was like a psychotic person really
yeah he was beat the [ __ ] out of my
mouth like he would be the type of
company beat the [ __ ] out of my cousin
really yeah he beat my cousin up he
picked my cousin up by his hair rogan
went from new jersey to florida to the
smallest city of newton massachusetts
and then rogan made the best decision of
his life he said at 14 he took up
martial arts and he was good at it
winning many
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but championships age 21 his body was
taking a toll and he decided to quit and
he had no idea what to do so university
was pointless he said so rogan took odd
jobs to make money he delivered
newspapers and taught martial arts he
even drove a private investigator around
during stakeouts which is honestly kind
of like a cool job but then he found his
next calling his friends convinced them
to take the stage and to try out
stand-up dog's like where we going spike
the big dog's like shut up
i was a little dog and um and he loved
it but massachusetts doesn't scream fame
so rogan moved to l.a in 94 to try and
make it big so in la rogan landed his
first big acting job in 95 as
electrician joe gorelli in news radio
and there was some truth to that
character guerrelli didn't believe in
consumer products and loved conspiracy
theories plus he knew a lot about a lot
of stuff
rogan said that he loved his time in
news radio but he eventually got bored
and then he landed the role as the host
of fear factor which he did not only for
the money and for the exposure but we'd
be overlooking this crucial moment in
rogan's career if we don't mention
dothan alabama in 97. that's when rogan
started working in the ufc as a
backstage interviewer he was vital in
the early stages of the ufc but the job
wasn't very glamorous he had to quit in
99 because he actually lost money
covering the events in the backwoods of
rural usa so this short time would prove
vital for him in the future by the way
did you know that rogan had a three
album deal with warner music i listened
to one track and
it's not my favorite type of
music i just climbed on top and i lost
my breath and when she squeezed it she
nearly scared me to death
anyway then rogan launched his blog
where he discussed topics for his comedy
routines this blog would become this
free-flowing river
of [ __ ] and intelligence combined
and guess what people loved it anyway
around then in 2001 zuffa entertainment
purchased ufc and if you know anything
about dana white it's that he gets what
he wants rogan befriended white and the
ufc owner wanted rowan in his show so he
begged joe rogan to start commentating
but joe
joe just wanted to watch the fights and
for about a year white pressured and
pressured then rogan agreed to
commentate on the ufc matches and he
actually did for free at first i mean
not for free
in exchange for tickets and beers and in
2002 he agreed to enter the ufc payroll
and for the next 15 years he would
become a fixture in the sport keep in
mind that ufc grew fast and then turned
into this cornerstone of fighting
entertainment very worthless story for
company forensics if you want us to
cover it but rogan's media exposure
would only grow right when he started
his podcast so fast forward to 2020
spotify paid joe rogan 100 million
dollars to have exclusivity over his
podcast that's a hundred million dollars
rogan was now the highest paid podcaster
in the world it was the second
most downloaded podcast in apple for two
years also it earned several awards and
praise from the media and many called
the joe rogan experience the last
bastion of free speech after all he
thrived on talking about taboo subjects
in this era of cancelled culture even if
doing this would eventually bite back
there are a lot of controversies
surrounding joe rogan and he has around
1800 episodes so far so of course we're
gonna be leaving out some of this stuff
but the point here is that joe rogan is
kind of predictable in choosing his
guests generally he divides them into
four there are comedians and celebrities
fighters and athletes politicians and
finally
thinkers and
thinkers with some air quotes and some
of these guests have shown these
ludicrous points of view with
very little evidence i just go by
science that's a scientific evidence
like real science like water is always
level right we know that water is always
level at a hundred miles in the
conversation if you don't understand how
gravity works over a giant [ __ ]
sphere no no if
rogan likes to provoke them even if he
disagrees but sometimes when facing a
spicy topic rogan lays low and then just
lets the guest speak this silence can be
controversial whether by brilliance by
bias or conviction take jack dorsey for
example by comparison his interview was
soft and rowan didn't dive deep into how
twitter did or didn't censor certain
accounts and of course some people
wanted rogan to drill dorsey
but he didn't the backlash was so much
that rogan had to apologize i didn't
think the podcast would create such a
controversy but that's probably poor
prior planning on my part he again had
to apologize after saying that activists
had started the oregon fires that
ravaged most of the region even arrested
left-wing people for
lighting these forest fires you know air
quote activists and this is something
that's also not widely being reported
you know that but the straw that broke
the camel's back came later and for that
of course we need to talk about the
pandemic now rogan's views on covet 19
and vaccination were fuel to a fire that
was of course already burning bright now
before we go on with the video i need to
make a very big disclaimer and if you
want to stop watching after this then
that's fine the last time we touched on
this topic help broke loose
so i'm going to make my position
abundantly clear first i believe in
vaccination i am triple dabbed the
overwhelming majority of the scientific
community agrees with this and that is
the vantage point from which we look at
this again if that makes you feel like
you disagree and need to unsubscribe
from this channel i'm ready to live with
that okay moving on so
rogan invited robert malone this is a
controversial doctor who criticized
vaccination the doctor divulged false
claims regarding the vaccine and then he
went as far as drawing comparisons
between the current health crisis in the
us in the world and nazi germany
scientists have of course already
dispelled all of these claims so
people were angry as a result 270
medical professionals signed a petition
for spotify to remove the podcast
entirely and and by the way this was not
the first time this has happened in the
past rogan had questioned vaccination
and even promoted medication that had no
evidence of working against covet and
then when he finally tested positive he
listed this array of treatments with no
scientific backing a blocker
of viral
uh replica replicase
r-e-p-l-i-c-a-s-a proteas and i don't
know what this word is and the problem
of course is that rowan is not a doctor
and he never said hey i'm not a doctor
and all this might be [ __ ] i don't
know
don't try this at home you you have to
put a disclaimer on that even jackass
does it accordingly mtv the producers
must insist that no one attempt to
recreate or reenact any stunt or
activity performed on this show this
stance led many artists to call him out
first neil young threatened spotify and
when he got no response he actually
pulled out all of his music and then
joni mitchell and others followed suit
joe rogan then took to his social
networks to say that he would provide a
more open approach to this podcast and
all this talk that he always does after
he screws up and the world believed him
even the rock chimed in backing him up
dwayne the rock johnson is expressing
support for spotify podcaster joe rogan
as the white house calls on big text
then things got worse people started
digging dirt from rogan's long very long
history of talking about everything in
this podcast and then this video was
released of all the times that rogan
used the n-word word i've already said
is just like
she's calling you like this boy that
he's this prompted another apology from
him and then in his apology
some fans
praised him they praised him for owning
up to it but others called him out
saying that he should never use that
term nor rely on the excuse that he has
black friends dwayne johnson backed out
of his support as well and while all of
this was happening with him spotify was
busy trying to develop ways to to cool
this dumpster fire spotify's founder
daniel eck performed some actions that
felt kind of in favor of rogan and after
all he's still there spotify has taken
down tens of rogan's episodes but the
podcast is still there the company has
labelled others with disclaimers about
misinformation but people were demanding
more now ek has said that silencing joe
rogan isn't the right thing to do
i'm inclined to agree but of course
spotify's ceo has a bias of a hundred
million dollars so what's his opinion
gonna be anyway that's the core issue
here what is the right action to take is
it is it the platforming joe rogan
forever is it giving him a platform to
say whatever he wants including racist
slurs to millions of people so here's me
again taking a risk and and saying what
i think i don't think that joe rogan
should be the platform or cancelled the
big difference between him and many
other people that have gotten canceled
is that
he has owned up to his mistakes and he's
apologized but the problem with canceled
culture is that they see no end it tries
to bury people forever cancel culture
doesn't see apologies or regrets it
looks to end people's careers from
sometimes a single mistake and i don't
think that's right
now that being said
i do think that misinformation must be
stopped warnings are not enough fake
news are dangerous and there's real real
tangible impact when people have open
access to misinformation more than that
these platforms are private companies
they have the right to remove content
that doesn't represent their values i
think that neil young and all the other
artists that have pulled out of spotify
were brave and are on the right it got
everyone's attention and that's what we
needed here scientists or doctors failed
to do so if the content that a platform
features
goes against your values or offends a
group of people or spreads false
information yes false i'm saying that
this is false information because that's
what science says
then they have every right to raise a
flag finally finally
racist comments shouldn't belong in a
widely accessible private platform my
father is black and i have heard his
stories and i am fortunate that through
all of my upbringing
racism was just stories for me i grew up
in a country in a city in a school where
racism is rare or non-existent and i was
the only black kid in the school but if
millions of people are offended by this
man using racial slurs then that content
does not belong so a flag has been
raised rogan seems to be sorry and has
apologized i think that that is a
victory rogan wants to remain neutral
the right-wing side rumble offered rogan
100 millions to transfer his content
there and rogan rejected it i think it's
a good signal on where he stands now
this spotify ceo has vowed to raise a
hundred million dollars for creators
from marginalized communities to counter
the backlash but many agree that it's
not enough i agree that it's not enough
the controversial episodes should be
pulled
but we can't keep cancelling people
forever especially if they seem they
seem at least to have learned from their
mistakes there's going to be some
backlash with that but thanks for
watching
uh please keep it civil in the comments
and we'll see you next week
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