- Hey guys, I'm Alex C.
- And I'm Patrick R.
- We're at you today with a little different video
than we normally do.
This is going to be about gun cleaning.
Gun cleaning's probably not the best part of shooting,
but it's still very important.
If you want to protect your investments,
a lot of people tie up a lot of money in guns.
I know Patrick, you have, Lord knows, probably ...
- No where near what you have.
- Well, nonetheless, you have,
and our readers have as well, presumably,
even if you have three guns, and they're $1,000 a piece,
- [Patrick] that's still... - [Alex] that's $3,000.
- I mean, that could be a car for somebody.
- [Alex] That's a car. - [Patrick] Yeah.
- My first car was less than that.
- I've owned cars much less than that.
- Oh yeah, good lord, yeah.
Anyways, guys, let's talk a little bit about it.
I know it's not the sexiest subject we've ever taken on,
but maybe we'll show you a trick or two
that you haven't seen or haven't considered.
I doubt it, but you know,
this is just kind of what we do,
and I've been doing it for 10 years or more.
Patrick, you-
- I don't even know, honestly,
but I know that some of our readers are very
passionate about how they clean their firearm.
- And, guys, this is just what we do.
You might have a completely different ritual,
and to most shooters, it is almost like a ritual.
When you get home, this is what you do.
Some of you guys don't clean your guns at all,
and if your guns work and you don't care,
who am I to tell you to do something different?
- Well, you haven't told me anything.
- (laughs) Well, you know, I'm maybe a little pickier
than he is, but nonetheless, if you have an AK
and you shot 10,000 rounds, and it still works every time
you go out and it's still just as accurate
as it is from day one, who am I to say,
clean your gun, do something different, this and that?
- Like we said, we're by no means experts.
This is just some things that we put together,
some tricks that we've learned.
I brought my cleaning kit today.
He keeps his inside of a drawer system
that we couldn't get on camera,
so we just brought a couple pieces out.
- Yeah, but Patrick, you can kind of tilt your
box up to the camera.
He's got a really nice set-up actually.
He bought a tackle box,
and he used it to organize his brushes, his q-tips
and things like that.
That's actually a really good idea, guys,
a nice, affordable tackle box.
- I think I paid $20 for the tackle box,
and then I found a bunch of the Otis multi-pack brushes,
and they just fit really neatly inside there.
- Yeah, absolutely, and they're great brushes, guys.
- They're fantastic. - Otis products are great.
Everything from their patches all the way up to their
expensive rods and kits and everything are just great.
Let's kick it off, Patrick,
since you brought the tackle box,
why don't you- - The Spring Tactile box.
- The tactile box, okay. (laughs)
- Well, one thing I really like about it is
if you go to the range, or you go out hunting
or something like that,
it fits in a nice little neat package.
Doesn't take up a whole lot of room.
There's a fairly good amount of organization in here.
I've got brushes in just about every caliber
tucked inside the little pockets here.
Up here I've got some q-tips, some various brass brushes,
12-gauge brush, mop, all that kind of good stuff up here,
and assorted cleaning jags
and obviously the cleaning rods,
but I've got picks and screwdrivers and greases,
toothbrushes, more 30-cal brushes than I can count,
and it offers me a nice place to go ahead and kind of
stash all of my little cleaning items down in here.
- In case you can't see it in frame,
he's got a silicon rag, some patches, stuff like that.
Guys, those are all good tools.
I do want to hit on this.
An understated cleaning item is the simple q-tip
that you can find in your neighborhood drug store.
Q-tips are fantastic.
I mean, I know a lot of military people
that keep just a bunch of q-tips to clean their guns.
- I'll tell you why.
When I was trained on how to clean the M16,
q-tips are part of that.
We use them to clean out the,
if you're in the military,
it's referred to as a star chamber,
the locking legs on the M16 uppers,
and the gas tubes, they just fit really nicely in there.
That is how they train us how to do it.
- Very cool. - How they did.
- I'm sure they probably still do that.
You know, q-tips are inexpensive,
and I'm sure for the military, with the discount they get
by buying them by the million, that they still do that.
Probably, don't quote me.
- Yes, and I didn't bring any of them with me,
but they actually produce long swabs.
They look like the ones the doctor sticks down your throat
when he's checking you for strep throat.
- Sure, I've seen them.
Obviously, I don't have military service, guys,
so I rely a lot on Patrick for input from that,
but I've seen the swabs he's talking about.
They're just basically like q-tips.
There's also a product in the market called RamRodz
- that you might have seen - Very similar.
- Yeah, but they're for the bore of a gun,
and if you want to saturate your bore
with maybe some sort of copper solvent,
it's actually a pretty good idea.
- No, it's not bad. - I like that.
- It's not bad, but I'm going to go through
some of the oils and stuff that I've got in here.
I keep a little can of FrogLube in here.
I admittedly have not used it yet,
but I think we were talking about doing a
bit of a torture test on the Tantal
by packing this into the action
and sticking it into a cooler with some dry ice
to simulate cold weather, since we live in Texas,
and there is none here.
- You know, another cool thing about that,
that product right there, FrogLube,
I believe it's owned by a veteran.
- I believe so.
- Yeah, which is neat,
and I know, actually, a manufacturer
that uses it as their primary.
Yes, it smells like Pepto Bismol, kind of.
- No, it smells like Wintergreen gum.
- Well, okay.
- Apparently, that's food safe.
- Wow, well, I wouldn't eat it, but you know.
It's a good product, guys.
FrogLube, the praises are sung by many people.
- Actually, I just noticed on the package
it's owned by a service-disabled veteran.
- Well, there you go.
So that answers that. - [Patrick] So, you know,
we appreciate what you do. - [Alex] Shout out to
the people at FrogLube.
Absolutely, guys, so it's a good product,
not only by its own right, but the people who own it
from what I understand are very good people.
They back the product.
It's got a very good following in the Internet.
I'm sure if you had a problem and you said,
"Hey, man, your product didn't work out for me."
They'd listen to you and they'd take that.
- You know, speaking of FrogLube, CJ was using it
in his M16 .22 upper, and he put like
1,000-1,500 rounds through it in an afternoon.
- Yeah, we have a friend,
a friend with a full auto registered lower,
and he has a .22 upper, and as you guys know,
.22 runs a little dirtier. - Yes.
- He uses that exclusively,
and when you shoot .22, since it's cheap,
of course this guy goes through thousands
and thousands of rounds.
- [Patrick] It's ridiculous, he'll go through a bucket.
in a few hours. - [Alex] Yeah,
I've seen him shoot a bucket, get a rag, wipe it off,
and the part's clean. - [Patrick] Yup.
- [Alex] And I'm just like, whoa, that's something else.
- Yeah, but him merely applying it
is a little bit painstaking,
that's why I haven't dove into it yet,
but moving on, no cleaning kit is complete
without some Hoppe's #9.
I keep a small bottle in here,
and then I think I've got a couple pints at home
that I just refill the small bottle with.
I am a CLP guy, as of right now.
Unfortunately, it worked for me when I was in the military.
It works for me now.
I don't see any reason to change,
but I do plan on testing out some other stuff,
like I was sent a snake oil prime sample,
and we're going to try that out at some point.
- I'm skeptical of a product called snake oil.
I don't know why. - [Patrick] Righfully so.
- [Alex] I'm sure it'll be fun to see,
but Hoppe's or as I think they want it pronounced,
Hopees, but I've never heard it called Hopees in my life.
- Tell you what, I'm going to keep saying it like hops.
- I'm going to keep saying hops.
Extra syllable, nah.
Nobody has time for that.
- No. - Yeah, so anyways,
but let's keep rolling here.
- Yeah, and I've got a ton of patches.
I clean with gloves, I don't know about you guys,
but I really don't like cleaning the carbon off of my hands,
so I keep a little package of gloves inside the box.
I mean, that's really about it.
It's a pretty standard kit.
It's just a little bit more comprehensive
than most of them, and I put forth the effort
to make sure it was nice and organized,
so when I do break it out to clean something,
I don't have to spend a lot of time
hunting for bits and pieces.
- And that's a good idea.
How much would you estimate you have in this box total?
- You know, I'm willing to bet maybe $120 total.
- Okay. - And that's to include
the big bottle of CLP, I mean, cleaning rods aren't cheap.
If you priced them out, I think I paid $20 for this,
almost a decade ago.
- It's taken you a long time
to accumulate all this, of course.
- Some of it, yes, but honestly,
most of it's relatively new.
- Okay, yeah, so that's good stuff, guys.
He's got a really nice kit here,
and you could piece it together.
If you have a ritual, the tackle box idea is a good idea.
Maybe you have products that you prefer.
There's no reason you couldn't think,
"Hey, I want all my products in one convenient place.
"I go out hunting, I want to have some extra parts
"in case something breaks."
A lot of AR guys keep things like-
- I keep a bolt and firing pin.
- People say, a bolt never breaks.
Well, you know what, the other weekend we were out shooting,
- I broke a bolt.
- He broke a bolt and we had to replace it.
- That's the second bolt I've broken in 6 months.
- There you go. (laughs)
When you're hard on your gun,
we're lucky in that we get to do a lot of testing
and stuff for TFB, and TFB TV.
When you shoot a lot, and not to say you guys don't,
but when you shoot all kinds of crazy stuff
that we get to test and stuff, stuff breaks.
It happens, - [Patrick] It does,
and admittedly, we have so much going on for you guys
that sometimes I don't devote the time I should
to my own firearms, and I kind of neglect them.
You know I do. - Sure.
- That's because we want to go ahead
and provide content for you guys,
and it kind of takes away from my time
to take care of my stuff.
- You know, shooting's more fun than cleaning.
- [Patrick] I agree. - It all comes down to that.
- [Patrick] I'm making excuses, I think.
- All right, so you guys have heard us talk
a little bit about the products we use.
We want to kind of break our cleaning rituals down
a little bit. Patrick, go ahead.
- Yeah, our cleaning rituals are pretty much the same.
We do things a little bit differently,
but I start off with a brass brush,
and I'll dip it in my little container of Hoppe's,
and kind of ram it back and forth
until I feel like it's probably scrubbed clean enough
to go ahead and run a dry patch through.
I'll do that until it comes out dry,
and then I'll run another patch soaked with Hoppe's,
and then do another dry patch until it comes out dry again,
and then follow it up with a CLP patch,
and then I'll put one clean patch through the bore
to go ahead and kind of soak up the excess oil.
That's pretty much my bore ritual.
Now, after that, it's just a lot of CLP,
toothbrushes, and q-tips,
and then depending on whether it's a handgun or not,
I may go ahead and break out some of my grease
or some CLP, depending on what I'm cleaning.
I think your ritual's fairly similar.
- You know, pretty much the same, guys.
Brass brush, I run it through several times.
I use a John Dewey cleaning rod.
These are great rods.
They seem to have a fiberglass shaft,
and then whatever attachment you put on the end of it.
I'll run a brass brush with Hoppe's on there,
and then I'll use CLP plus a bore snake.
Bore snakes are basically just, you know.
- It's kind of a rope with some brass brush
weaved into it. - [Alex] Exactly.
I'll saturate the front and the rear with CLP,
run it through several times,
and then I'll push a CLP-saturated patch through
to make sure I got everything.
That way, you can see on the patch how much you've done.
The last thing I have to say,
the last patch, when it comes out clean,
you're pretty much good,
but I did put brake cleaner with a question mark.
Now, this is gun scrubber.
It's basically the same thing as brake cleaner.
- Yeah, yeah, and you know,
actually, sometimes I do use non-chlorinated brake cleaner.
- Absolutely, no question about it.
- I don't want to spend the money on that,
so I generally go ahead and buy-
- Realistically, go to your auto parts store,
get some non-chlorinated brake cleaner,
and it's the same thing.
This just happens to be convenient.
It's in an aerosol can with a straw here.
Spray off some parts you're worried about,
maybe that you can't get into quite right.
Get a q-tip after you follow up with this, if you can.
I mean, it does the trick.
It's a great product.
- As a matter of fact, I use that to clean the 10/22
after we took it out and shot it.
- Yeah, and oftentimes,
high-pressure brake cleaner or high-pressure gun scrubber
really blasts out a lot of the dirt and grime.
- But you do have to be careful not to get it on
any wood finishes or anything like that,
because it can damage finishes if you're not careful.
- There is a synthetic safe version
which I would highly recommend over the traditional version
because I've had some polymer melt before as a result.
So be careful with that, guys,
but anyways, that's kind of our insights on cleaning.
Some of you guys are definitely more experienced than us
and we'd like to hear your feedback.
Maybe post your ritual below.
- Yeah, post your ritual. Tell us what you use.
What do you prefer?
- Absolutely, and if you have an alternative
to the tackle box or something like that,
- The tactile box.
- the tactile box, sorry, if you have an alternative,
I'd like to hear it.
It seems like the apex of convenience to me,
but maybe there's,
maybe you have a Ghostbusters lunchbox from the '80s
that you use.
- That would be pretty cool.
- That would be pretty rad, but anyways, guys,
thanks for listening to our spiel here on cleaning products.
I know it's not the most exciting thing we've probably done.
We appreciate you nonetheless, guys.
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- Yeah, subscribe, and also I would be interested
in letting the, if you have any tricks or tips,
let us know.
- If you'd like to hear more about my cleaning box,
go ahead and drop a comment,
I might go ahead and do a write-up on it.
Other than that, I'm Patrick R.
- I'm Alex C.
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