In the latest Joe Rogan related
controversy the Spotify
podcast hosts spread misinformation
unfortunately regarding
whether young people should get
the vaccine.
Here's what he had to say.
The people say do you think it's
safe to get vaccinated?
I've said, yeah, I think for
the most part,
it's safe to get vaccinated.
I do but
if you're like 21 years old and
you say to me,
should I get vaccinated I go, no,
are you healthy,
are you a healthy person?
Like, Look,
don't do anything stupid, but
you should take care of yourself.
>> Yeah. >> You should.
If you're a healthy person and
you're exercising all the time when
you're young, and
you're eating well, like, I don't
think you need to worry about this.
>> Yeah, I tend to agree with you.
>> But there's a lot of
jobs that will tell you you need to
have this.
>> Well that's what's starting to
happen now.
>> When people are worried about
them doing it for their children
and we talked about this earlier,
there's that you might have to have
your your children vaccinated.
And I can tell you as someone whose
both my children got the the virus
it was nothing I mean,
I hate to say that if someone's
children died from this,
I'm very sorry that happened.
I'm not in any way diminishing
that, but I'm saying the personal
experience that my children had
with COVID was nothing.
>> Now that has led to a wave of
backlash, people are furious
about it but I want us to just
take a deep breath and see
this as an opportunity, a learning
opportunity and that's exactly what
we're going to do right now.
Unfortunately though,
we're going to have to take
a trip to a very special place
that we're going to
go to quite often on this show, and
it's a place where we go when
influential people say damaging
things with unearned confidence.
We're going to take a trip to
the debunker.
>> Didn't see,
Republicans when we had control of
the Senate tried to rig the game.
>> Shows how the green new deal
would be a deadly deal for
the United State of America.
>> Our systems are not racist.
>> All right, we're now
officially in the De-Bunker and
John Iadarola, I'm going to open
this up to you first because.
Okay.
>> You have done a great
job covering the Coronavirus.
>> I tried.
>> And you also seem to have
a pretty firm grasp of why it's
important for young and healthy
people to also get vaccinated.
So why don't you respond to
Rogan's?
>> Yeah, I think that I have a firm
grasp but to be fair, I did cheat
rather than doing what you're
supposed to do with this sort of
job is just making up as u want.
I listened to the people who
actually know, Doctors not
doctors of suplexology or anything,
but doctors of like epidemics and
stuff.
And so there were a couple of
things that bothered me about what
he said one just as a general
thing, and this is for both on air
personalities and everyone.
You can't just say I don't mean to
diminish that.
You have to actually not diminish
it when you say sure some people's
kids died, but mine were fine so
other people shouldn't
vaccinate their kids.
That does diminish it, even if you
say, I don't mean to diminish it so
it's like a show versus tell
sort of thing so bear that in mind.
But, yeah, I think that it's
amazing in a segment where he is
giving medical advice that he's not
qualified to do in the same way
that I'm not qualified to tell you
what to do if you end up on
the ground and across body armbar.
I don't know the correct way to
break out of that so
I don't opine on it.
He says if you're healthy if you
eat right if you exercise a lot,
I've never heard any indication
that either of
those things particularly a front
the Coronavirus.
It's like I was going to infect her
but turned out she had kale
recently, none of those have
anything to do with it.
He also says, don't do anything
stupid, it's good advice for
all sort of people, don't do
something stupid if you're going to
tell people to do something that
could have negative side effects.
Even if you think there's a low
chance of it, then at least balance
the scales by telling me what you
get out of not doing it.
So he's saying though there,
maybe there could be something.
Okay.
What's the upside of not doing it?
So you potentially get Coronavirus?
What do you get?
Other than that, so
then why are you not getting, it's
fricking free, we're in America,
we're being offered
free medicine for once, and you're
telling people not to take it.
>> Yeah. >> At least, put up a fig
leaf of the benefit that would come
from that, but he doesn't even try
because it doesn't exist.
>> One of the things that I think
the media could have done a better
job in, was actually exploring
the development of the Corona virus
vaccine.
Because I think a lot of people
are under the impression that this
vaccine was just like cooked up in
a hurry in a lab as soon as we
figured out the Corona virus was
going to be a problem.
But that's actually not the case.
>> Yes. >> The framework for
both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccin,
the mRNA framework was developed in
universities and had been worked on
for a very long time but
was languishing essentially.
And it was through programs like
Yes Operation Warp Speed,
that took that university research
on that framework and was able to
develop it to the point where it's
highly effective in protecting us
against the coronavirus.
So, I get why some people who might
not know that, might not know the
history of that would be hesitant
but at this point we're talking
about this sort of hotly hundreds
of millions of Americans who have
at least gotten the first shot.
And we're doing okay.
>> No, I am allergic >> I mean,
it's just >> Nothing.
>> And even when there are some
complications as there were with
the J & J vaccine,
six people got blood clots and
they immediately halted the use
of that vaccine until they could
provide more studies.
And ensure that they talk to health
care providers and
let them know how to
treat this form of blood clots.
I mean, it's more evidence to how
shockingly the vaccine rollout has
been Pretty remarkable.
Really, I mean the United States
has one for
after the next in >> Mm-hm.
>> Responding to coronavirus but
in terms of the roll out of
the vaccine especially under
the Biden administration, it's been
impressive to say the least.
>> Yeah. >> Now, let's talk about
why young healthy people also need
to get the vaccine.
The virus mutates.
There are already countless
mutations of the virus out there,
and one of these mutations that we
know of so far has proven to
be far more dangerous to people of
all age groups, but in particular,
young people.
Young people who are thought to be
indestructible, young people who
are thought to be pretty immune to
the virus, maybe they get the virus
but they're asymptomatic.
I mean,
that was the original thinking but
because of these mutations,
we're now finding a completely
different animal to deal with.
And so I take you to Michigan,
where some new numbers regarding
Coronavirus cases will
hopefully get people like Joe Rogan
to kind of rethink his talking
points on the vaccine.
Michigan's COVID wards are filling
up with younger patients,
even as vaccines roll out more
younger people in Michigan
are being hospitalized than at
any other point in the pandemic,
and they're coming in sicker.
So again, the vaccine is important
because we need herd immunity.
Herd immunity will prevent further
mutations and the mutations
are always far more brutal than the
previous iteration of the virus.
And so and by the way,
you want herd immunity through
vaccination not herd immunity by
doing absolutely nothing and
just seeing all these
people get sick and die, which was
the Trump administration's policy.
We now have a vaccine let's
encourage people to take it.
Michigan hospitals are now
admitting about twice as many
Coronavirus patients in their
30s and 40s as they were during
the fall peak, according to
the Michigan Health and
Hospital Association.
One nurse said every time we
get a call or every time we hear
there's another 40 year old that we
don't have a circuit for,
it's like we can't save them all.
So there are young people dying
because some of these hospitals
like in Michigan are overwhelmed
with young patients being admitted.
One doctor says this, I am putting
more patients in their 20s and
30s and 40s on oxygen and
on life support than at any other
time in this pandemic.
And just to give you further
details about the mutation that I'm
speaking of here,
public health experts according go
the New York Times say the outbreak
driven by the B 117 variant of
the virus, which is more contagious
and more severe is spreading
rapidly in younger age groups.
The B 117 variant first identified
in Britain and now the most common
source of new infection in
the United States is believed to be
about 60% more contagious and
67% more deadly than the original
form of the Coronavirus.
So I just think that every so often
you ever so often wish to ever so
often Joe Rogan will have a guest
who actually will just simply tell
it like it is and Bill Burr
happened to be one of them.
I just want to remind you, Joe,
of what Bill Burr told
you when you tried to strike up
a conversation about Coronavirus.
>> Parked on the street with
a mask on.
>> Let's not start this journey.
>> Though. >> Let's not start this.
>> Okay, let's turn it.
>> I don't want to start this but
I'm not going to sit here with no
medical degree, listening to you
with no medical degree with
an American flag behind you [LAUGH]
>> Smoking a cigar acting like we
know what's up better than the CDC.
>> Sounds like really good advice,
he should listen to Bill Burr.
>> [LAUGH] I thought that was
pretty good.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.