We have an update to the story of
a religious Karen who followed
a congregant into the bathroom,
to do what?
To shame her for wearing
shorts because in the opinion of
the church leader, the girl wearing
the shorts was too chubby.
So it all starts,
here is a tweet from two years ago.
We have an update for you, so
stick around for the update from
the woman who shot the video.
But she tweeted, this woman
followed me into the bathroom and
attacked me calling me fat,
and that I couldn't wear jean
shorts because I was too fat.
And here is that original video.
It is something else, so
take a look.
>> She's a chubby girl.
She's got a dress on that's
appropriate.
It comes
down to the top of her >> So
you're sitting here calling me fat.
>> You don't think you are?
>> No, because I
[BLEEP] love who I am.
I'm sorry.
>> Excuse me. >> No.
>> You- >> Get the [BLEEP]
out of my face.
>> I don't have to, and
don't swear at me like that.
>> I don't give a [BLEEP].
>> I do, that's your problem.
I do give a [BLEEP], but you don't,
obviously.
Don't come back on the stage with
those shorts.
I'm warning you.
>> Who are you?
Who are you?
>> [INAUDIBLE] read my name?
>> I see that, but
who are you to tell me what I'm
supposed to be- [INAUDIBLE] >> No,
get the [BLEEP] out of my face.
>> Quit swearing at me.
>> Get out.
>> Don't talk- >> I am not ten
years old and I can do whatever I
want. >> Really? >> Yes. >> Try it.
>> Okay, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,
bye, because guess what? I've been
recording this entire thing.
And I will show my parents and
I will never come back to
this church because how much you
are disrespectful. You are so
disrespectful. [INAUDIBLE] >> She
called me fat. She called me fat.
She called- >> Go on back, go on
back. >> She is in there swearing.
>> So there's that, and
I wanted to make sure we all heard
that at the end when she goes,
she was in there swearing.
Okay lady, she didn't swear until
you said what you said.
And to show the two face that
you are, that's what you lead with.
Because you knew you were in
the wrong.
You already knew that you lost this
conversation in the eyes of God.
It is a ridiculous, ridiculous
position that she had and
everybody's heartbreaks for
that girl, a woman, she's 19 at
the time, she's 21 now, sorry that
I wrote girl on the lower third.
But it was heartbreaking and she
did stand up for herself, but I'm
wondering what your thoughts are on
that before we give the update.
>> Yeah, so I thought it was, and
I don't know either person's
politics, right?
But it felt like Right Wing slash,
white privilege there, right?
So, it's not that it's racial, yet
the woman who's being accused of
being overweight is
Africa- American, but
I don't know that that has anything
to do with the story.
I just mean it in the sense of she
thinks, I can call you fat, but
if you swear back at me, well,
how dare you?
She genuinely believes that.
She thinks, I can say anything I
want to, and she banned her
from the show, man, I think that's
cancel culture, right?
She said, do not come back onto
the stage, because I have judged
you as morally deficient,
both because you're overweight and
you're wearing the wrong clothes.
And then on top of that,
after she swears at the older
woman and then the woman says,
you better not swear.
And then the younger woman says,
I don't care.
And the older woman says,
you don't care and
that's your problem.
So, I'm now blaming you a third
time, because I think that the root
of all your problems is that
you don't care enough.
So, I've just moralized and judged
you in every conceivable fashion.
But she walks out of there like,
can you believe this girl, right?
And she tells the people there,
she's in there swearing because,
I think guys,
that she really doesn't get that
she started the whole thing.
She provoked it, because it's that
overwhelming sense of entitlement
that we can't quite relate to.
I've never thought that way in my
life, like I could do whatever I
want to you, but
if you just push back an inch,
that's the most outrageous thing.
I've never felt that, but
I think a lot of people in this
country feel that and I think
that's what you saw in that video.
>> Carolyn.
>> Yeah, I think we all know that
this is so tremendously sad, but
I actually would argue a little bit
deeper on the note that it actually
does go deeper than one young
woman's embarrassing experience,
horrible experience.
Because the heart of this, and why
I do think it matters that she is
an African-American woman is that,
at the heart of this is anti-black
and anti-fat violence.
And I've had the pleasure of
reading a couple incredible books
lately about those two things and
the intersection of those two
things.
And why experiences like this
aren't just embarrassing or
shameful, but they're actually
incredibly dangerous with.
Those two books, one is called
Fearing the Black Body, and
the other is called Belly of
the Beast, by Da'Shaun Harrison.
And both of those talk about how
black bodies are under
constant surveillance.
And it has real,
actual consequences for people.
Apparently it's legal
in almost every United States,
every state in the country, to fire
fat people based on their weight.
We all know that there's a lot of
stigma in the medical field about
misdiagnosis and poor care.
Decades of incorrect information
out there about obesity and
things like that.
And these two works,
I am just really happy that I was
able to read them.
Because they talk about how
fat people and black people are,
they show up in their bodies every
single day.
And to have that be policed and
really just shamed constantly, is
such an underrated epidemic in our
country, I think.
And if you have feelings that
are fat-phobic and
a lot of people do, we live in
a deeply fat-phobic society.
But if you have feelings that
are fat phobic or you have
judgments against bigger bodies,
that's on you.
That is your issue to figure out.
It is not your place to lash out at
other people.
That is a personal problem that you
need to look within and
it's just it's so insane this is in
a religious setting,
aren't Christians not supposed
to judge people?
Isn't that kind of the whole-?
>> Yeah, and so
just it's exactly right.
I'll give you the update.
Just one of the quotes
from the video.
You can go online and
watch it yourself.
But she said, I haven't really seen
Bonnie Sue since then.
I stopped going to church,
really kind of discovering myself
right now.
And she said that In the process of
all this, I'm not going to say
the name of the church because she
said that the pastor actually
banned that woman from any further
activities or points of leadership
in the events at the church.
And that that woman has still tried
to reach out and as she, pushed
the buttons of the family, but she
won't let those buttons get pushed.
And so, she has kind of moved on
from that and she just wanted to
express to everybody who found us
on Reddit when it resurfaced this
week, that she's really grateful
for all the support that she's had.
So that's good.
>> Yeah.
>> And we can show you what she was
wearing that day.
There's photos that she posted.
It was literally just jean shorts.
>> My God, it's nothing.
That's nothing at all.
>> On the back it says.
Yeah, it say agape, which is God's
unconditional and unending love,
was the shirt she was wearing when
this woman said, actually,
it's conditioned on whether
I approve of what you're wearing.
>> It will never even occur
to me to criticize that outfit.
And so,
look in the bonus episode for
members.
I'll tell a story of when I was
called fat and how that turned out.
By the way, it's true if
you couldn't notice, and how did
it affect me younger in life and
how did it affect me later?
I love that she fought back on it
and I do want to give the church
credit for doing the right thing.