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>> Judge Jeanine: ALL RIGHT,
THE RUSSIANS ARE LEAVING THE
INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION BY
2024, THEY WON OUT.
IT WILL END THE PARTNERSHIP THEY
HAVE HAD WITH THIS COUNTRY AND
THE PRINCIPAL PLAYERS FOR THE
BETTER PART OF 20 YEARS.
THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION
IS HUGE AND DID NOT START OUT
THAT WAY.
THEY CONTINUED BUILDING UPON IT.
WHAT LOOKED LIKE THE SIZE OF A
SMALL KITCHEN ULTIMATELY BECAME
AS BIG AS A FOOTBALL FIELD, MAY
BE EVEN A LITTLE BIGGER THAN
THAT.
IT’S A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING
IF THEY GO, THEN WHO REPLACES
THEM?
DO WE STILL TAKE CARE OF THE
THING, BECAUSE IT IS NOW A BIG
THING, A LOT BIGGER THAN SKYLAB
WAS, WHO WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN
A GUY WHO FLEW ON IT AND SPENT
150 DAYS ON IT ACTUALLY MORE
THAN 166 DAYS IN SPACE OVER
MULTIPLE MISSIONS INCLUDING
THROUGH THE SPACE SHUTTLE AND OF
COURSE THE ISS COME AND TALK
ABOUT CLAYTON ANDERSON, ONE OF
MY FAVORITE GUESTS ON THE SHOW,
BARRY HONORED TO HAVE HIM COME A
FORMER ASTRONAUT, WHAT DID YOU
THINK WHEN YOU HEARD THE
RUSSIANS SAY NO ON THE ISS?
>> I THINK IT IS STANDARD
OPERATING PROCEDURE, THEY ARE
STILL UPSET WITH THE SITUATION
IN UKRAINE AND THE FACT WE HAVE
SANCTIONS AGAINST THEM.
AND OFTEN TIMES THEIR BARK IS
WORSE THAN THEIR BITE.
I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM
NASA ABOUT ALL OF THIS AND I
WOULD IMAGINE THAT DISCUSSIONS
ARE ONGOING TO SEE IF THERE IS
ANY WAY FORWARD THAT WE CAN
CONTINUE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE
HAVE.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING NEXT
SEVERAL MONTHS I THINK.
>> Neil: WHEN YOU WERE UP
THERE, BIGGER AND BIGGER, YOU
KNOW THAT IT’S BETTER THAN I DO.
CAN WE RUN NOTHING ON OUR OWN IF
WE HAD TO?
>> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION, WHEN
I WAS THERE IF SOMEONE WOULD ASK
ME TO RUN IT, I WOULD’VE SAID
NO, BUT WITH OUR CURRENT CADRE
OF CANADIAN, JAPANESE AND
EUROPEAN ASTRONAUTS WE MIGHT BE
ABLE TO PULL IT OFF, BUT I WOULD
THINK THAT THERE WOULD HAVE TO
BE INCREASED TRAINING ON THE
RUSSIAN SYSTEMS AND THOSE SORTS
OF THINGS.
IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT I DON’T
THINK IT IS LIKELY IN MY OPINION
OPINION.
>> Neil: SO AS FAR AS THE
SIZE, I REMEMBER AS A KID SKYLAB
ONE THAT CAME CRASHING BACK TO
EARTH.
IN AUSTRALIA, YOU KNOW BETTER
THAN I, THIS IS FAR BIGGER,
RIGHT?
SO THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE
STATION IS ABOUT 356 FEET
END-TO-END AND SKYLAB WAS ABOUT
99 FEET END-TO-END.
OBVIOUSLY A LOT HEAVIER, THIS
THING IS ABOUT A MILLION POUNDS
VERSUS ABOUT 165,000 POUNDS FOR
SKYLAB, I MEAN IF THEY CAN’T
KEEP THAT UP THERE, THAT COULD
BE PRETTY DANGEROUS IF IT FALLS
TO EARTH, COULDN’T?
>> IT COULD BE, THE THING WE
HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE FACT
THAT THERE ARE THRUSTERS ON THE
RUSSIAN SEGMENT AND THIS WHOLE
THING IS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO
USE THRUST TO PUT YOU ON THE
RIGHT TRAJECTORY TO DROP YOU ON
THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND AS BIG AS IT IS, IT HAS A
LOT OF SURFACE AREA WHICH MEANS
THAT A LOT OF IT WOULD BE HEATED
UP IN THE EARTH’S ATMOSPHERE AND
HOPEFULLY BREAK UP AN END SLOWED
AND DISINTEGRATE, BUT YOU ARE
RIGHT.
IT PROBABLY IN MY ESTIMATION THE
LARGEST THING THAT WOULD EVER
POTENTIALLY ENTER THROUGH THE
EARTH’S ATMOSPHERE.
SO I’M HOPING COOLER HEADS WILL
PREVAIL AND WE WILL FIGURE
SOMETHING OUT TO ENABLE US TO
KEEP IT UP THERE AS LONG AS
POSSIBLE, BUT ULTIMATELY WHEN IT
IS LIFE TIME IS OVER, BRINGING
IT BACK DOWN TO SAFELY IS GOING
TO BE A KEY CONSIDERATION.
>> Neil: I HOPE IT DOES NOT
END, I KNOW IT’S TOUGH TO KEEP
UP THERE, BUT IT’S SO INCREDIBLE
AND I KNOW YOU WERE A BIG REASON
FOR THAT.
I’M JUST WONDERING AS THE
RUSSIANS SAY THEY MIGHT GO IT
ALONE, THE CHINESE THEY THINK
FOR THE MOST PART ARE DOING THE
SAME, SHOULD WE BE NERVOUS?
>> NERVOUS IS A GOOD WORD.
I THINK THAT CAUTIOUS IS
PROBABLY BETTER.
I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN
A STATION AND DO ANYTHING
CONSTRUCTIVE, IT HAS TO BE A
CERTAIN SIZE WITH A CERTAIN
LEVEL OF CAPABILITY.
THE CHINESE STATION TO MY
UNDERSTANDING IS VERY AN
OFFSHOOT OF THE RUSSIAN SPACE
STATION, THE PORTION THAT IS
DOCKED TO US.
I THINK THAT THEY ARE VERY
SIMILAR IN PRIMARILY SCIENTIFIC.
BUT ANYTHING THAT HAS CAMERAS
AND THOSE KIND OF TECHNOLOGIES
CAN LOOK WHEREVER YOU CAN POINT
THEM.
SO IT’S GOOD FOR US TO BE WARY
OF THE SITUATION.
IT’S GOOD FOR US I THINK TO
CONTINUE TO TRY TO PARTNER WITH
RUSSIA AND I WOULD PROPOSE WE
REACH OUT TO PARTNER WITH CHINA
AS WELL, BUT I AM NOT A NET PAY
GRADE.
I NEVER WAS, SO WE WILL HAVE TO
JUST SEE HOW THE LEADERS OF ALL
THESE COUNTRIES DECIDE TO MOVE
FORWARD.
>> Neil: I WOULD BE REMISS,
YOU PROBABLY HEARD TODAY THAT
BUZZ ALDRIN’S JACKET HE WORE IN
SPACE WAS JUST AUCTIONED OFF FOR
ABOUT $2.8 MILLION AND
IMMEDIATELY GOT ME THINKING OF
YOU AND YOUR WEAR AND SPACE, ARE
YOU TEMPTED?
>> [LAUGHS]
I HAVE SEVERAL PAIRS OF
UNDERWEAR THAT I WORE MY LAST
MISSION.
NOT SURE IF THEY ARE CLEAN OR
NOT.
>> Neil: THAT IS INCREDIBLE,
NOTHING HAS EVER GOTTEN --
THAT HAS BEEN IN SPACE THAT KIND
OF MONEY.
OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PEOPLE DEMAND
FOR THAT, DON’T THEY?
>> PART OF IT IS BUZZED, HE IS
THE LAST OF THE MOON.
PART OF IT IS APOLLO AND GETTING
READY TO GO BACK TO THE MOON
WITH THE ARTEMIS PROGRAM, SO
THAT STUFF IS IN BIG DEMAND AND
IS THOSE GENTLEMEN GET OLDER.