>>JOHN KASICH MADE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT AFTER LOSING AGAIN IN
INDIANA, NOT REALLY HIS FAULT, NOBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS SO THAT
MAKES IT HARDER TO WIN AN ELECTION.
HE WOKE UP AND DECIDED
HIS HEART WASN'T IN IT, WE WILL HAVE HIS STATEMENT, BUT IF YOU
ARE SURPRISED TO FIND OUT HE DROPPED OUT TODAY, IT MIGHT BE
BECAUSE EVEN UP TO TODAY HE WAS RELEASING INSPIRATIONAL VIDEOS
ABOUT HOW HE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH ANY CHANCE OF WINNING, AND
BECAUSE THIS IS MAY THE FOURTH, THIS IS THE VIDEO HE RELEASED
TODAY.
>>["STAR WARS" MUSIC PLAYS]
>> A STUDY OF MORE THAN 44,000 AMERICANS ACROSS ALL 50 STATES
REVEALED THE JOHN KASICH IS THE ONLY GOP PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER
THAT COULD GET MORE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES THAN HILLARY
CLINTON AND BEAT HER.
>>THE ONLY CANDIDATE NOT DISLIKED BY MOST OF THE
ELECTORATE IS JOHN KASICH.
>> HE'S NOT HATED AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT IS THE
INSPIRATIONAL MESSAGE HE PUT OUT IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO IT BEING
LEAKED THAT HE WOULD LEAVE THE RACE.
IT IS STRONG MESSAGING,
WHEN YOU PUT THAT --
>>IF YOU ASSUME THAT PEOPLE SIT AND READ STUFF.
>>READ A LOT OF STUFF.
AND I GUESS THERE HAS GOT TO BE
OVERLAP BETWEEN -- LOOK, STAR WARS IS A NERDY THING, IT IS NOT
NECESSARILY A LIB THING, I'M SURE A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES LIKE
STAR WARS, BUT THE VISION HE PUT FORWARD OF WHAT THE EMPIRE IS UP
TO SOUNDED PRETTY GOOD.
BUT IT'S UNREALISTIC, IT'S NOT GOING TO
HAPPEN.
I DON'T EVEN HOPE ALL THAT WOULD END UP HAPPENING.
BUT HE PUTS THAT OUT, THEN WE FIND OUT HE WILL LEAVE THE RACE,
HE WAITS HOURS TO LEAVE, PLAYS THE VIDEO, YOU WILL SEE WHY IT
TOOK SO LONG, THEY HAD TO ASSEMBLE A COMPLICATED,
GRANDIOSE STAGE AND GET A LOT OF SUPPORTERS BEHIND HIM.
>>YOU CAN'T JUST WALK OUT IN FRONT OF A FUCKING PLAIN
WOOD WALL AND GIVE A SPEECH.
>>YOU DO A LAMINATE, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
>>YOU HAVE TO DRESS IT UP WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
>>SUPPORTERS CHANTING YOUR NAME, THAT TAKES A WHILE.
IT TOOK THEM UNTIL 2 O'CLOCK, THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME OUT WITH.
>>TO PARAPHRASE AN OLD ADAGE, I SOUGHT THE GREATNESS OF AMERICA
IN HER HARBORS AND IN HER RIVERS, AND I DID NOT FIND IT.
I SOUGHT IT IN HER FERTILE FIELDS AND BOUNDLESS FORESTS,
BUT DID NOT FIND IT.
I SOUGHT HER GREATNESS IN THE HALLS OF
CONGRESS, AND I DID NOT FIND IT.
YOU SEE, AFTER THIS CAMPAIGN,
I SEE IT IN US WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, WHEN WE LIFT ONE
ANOTHER WITH OUR EYES ON THE HORIZON.
THROUGHOUT MY CAMPAIGN
I HAVE SAID THAT THE LORD MAY HAVE ANOTHER PURPOSE FOR ME, AND
IT SET ALL THE PUNDITS ATWITTER.
DOES THAT MEAN HE IS NOT
COMMITTED OR FOCUSED OR ENERGETIC?
IT SHOWED TO SOME
DEGREE HOW LITTLE THEY UNDERSTAND ABOUT LIFE.
YOU SEE,
I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE LORD HAS A PURPOSE FOR ME AS HE
HAS FOR EVERYONE, AND AS I SUSPEND MY CAMPAIGN TODAY,
I HAVE RENEWED FAITH,
DEEPER FAITH, THAT THE LORD WILL SHOW ME THE WAY FORWARD AND
FULFILL THE PURPOSE OF MY LIFE.
THANK YOU, AND GOD BLESS.
>>WOW, HE GOT OUT OF THERE FAST.
YOU CAN ALMOST SEE THE SMOKE SHAPED LIKE JOHN KASICH AS
HE JETS OFF THE STAGE.
>>AND HE GOT OUT OF THERE WITHOUT SAYING THE NAME
DONALD TRUMP AT ALL, WHICH IS WHY HE GOT OUT OF THERE FAST.
>>BECAUSE THE OBVIOUS QUESTION --
>>THAT PRESS CONFERENCE -- HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PRESS
CONFERENCE AT DULLES AIRPORT AT WASHINGTON IN A SECRET AIRPLANE
HANGAR THERE, AND THE PRESS GOT THERE TO HEAR JOHN KASICH AND
THEN THEY WERE TOLD THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO FILM WHILE THEY
WERE THERE BECAUSE OF REVEALING SOME SORT OF SECRET, THEN IT WAS
LEARNED HE WASN'T EVEN SHOWING UP, HE WOULD BE DOING THIS AT
5 O'CLOCK IN COLUMBUS AND PEOPLE THEN BEGAN TO KNOW, SENIOR
CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS WERE SAYING HE WOULD BE DROPPING OUT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS -- CONFOUNDING TO ME.
AS CONFOUNDING AS HIS CANDIDACY.
>>WHAT CHANGED?
>> WHAT CHANGED OTHER THAN FOR THE BETTER?
I DON'T DO MATH
WELL, BUT THERE ARE 455 DELEGATES LEFT -- MAYBE 445 --
IF JOHN KASICH BEAT DONALD TRUMP 257 TO 188, BEAT HIM BY 60 SOME
ODD DELEGATES, HE WOULD HAVE STOPPED DONALD TRUMP FROM BEING
THE NOMINEE IN THE STATES THAT REMAIN.
WHY NOT?
WHY WERE YOU
IN THE RACE IN THE FIRST PLACE IF NOT FOR THAT CHANCE?
THIS WAS GIVEN TO YOU.
>>HERE IS WHAT CHANGED, IT BECAME MORE LIKELY THAT HE COULD
DO THAT.
THAT MAKES IT SO WEIRD THAT HE LEFT.
REGARDLESS OF
WHATEVER WEIRD TEMPORARY ALLIANCE HE AND TED CRUZ DID OR
DIDN'T FORM, THEY WERE STILL SPLITTING THE VOTE.
I'M NOT
SAYING JOHN KASICH COULD HAVE BEEN HIM IN CALIFORNIA OR
WHEREVER, BUT HE CERTAINLY HAS AN EASIER PATH WITHOUT TED
CRUZ TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE VOTE.
>>AND THE PARTY HAS A BIGGER ARGUMENT TO MAKE, THEY COME TO
CALIFORNIA ON JUNE 7, THEY SAY TO CALIFORNIANS, DONALD TRUMP IS
AHEAD IN THE LATEST POLLING IN YOUR STATE, GO AND BACK JOHN
KASICH, EVERYONE WHO IS A REPUBLICAN BACK JOHN KASICH, AND
WE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE ONE-ON-ONE OF BEATING DONALD
TRUMP, THIS IS A CLASSIC REPUBLICAN, HE IS A CONSERVATIVE
-- HE IS MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN HE WAS ABLE TO SHOW IN THIS RACE
BECAUSE HE WAS THE MODERATE IN THIS RACE, BUT HE IS AS
CONSERVATIVE AS THEY COME, HE HEADED UP A BUDGET COMMITTEE
THAT WAS REALLY CONSERVATIVE WHEN HE WAS IN CONGRESS.
WHY
THEN, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS MATCHUP, DOES KASICH BOW OUT
NOW?
WHY GET IN THE RACE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I SPENT TIME WITH
HIM ON THE TRAIL, WENT STOP TO STOP WITH THEM, PEOPLE RESPOND
TO HIM ONE-ON-ONE, CALIFORNIA IS AN ENORMOUS STATE, THERE WERE
OTHER STATES IN BETWEEN THAT WERE PART OF HIS ALLIANCE --
OREGON, THESE ARE KASICH-TYPE STATES.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
HE DID IT.
SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING HE WANTS TO BE VICE
PRESIDENT.
OKAY, WHAT WILL CHANGE IN A MONTH FROM NOW?
>>IT MIGHT CHANGE BY HIM WINNING STATES AND MAKING IT MORE
ATTRACTIVE FOR HIM TO BE CHOSEN AS VICE PRESIDENT.
>>OR IT COULD DIMINISH HIS STANDING BECAUSE HE IS BASHING
DONALD TRUMP.
SO WHAT?
I COULD SIT HERE ALL DAY AND NEVER
BELIEVE HE WANTS TO BE PART OF A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
>>I AGREE, I DON'T THINK HE WANTS TO.
AND I'M PARROTING WHAT YOU
ARE GOING TO SAY, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND HE DOESN'T EVEN
HAVE TO ATTACK TRUMP.
ALL HE HAS TO DO IS PRESENT HIMSELF AS, I'M A CLASSIC
CONSERVATIVE AND HE'S NOT.
>>LIKE HE HAS BEEN DOING.
>>I'M GIVING THE VOTERS A CHOICE.
A MAJORITY OF
REPUBLICANS SAY THEY DON'T LIKE HIM, HE HAS HIGH NEGATIVES,
HERE IS YOUR CHOICE, THAT IS ALL HE HAS TO DO.
WHY HE'S NOT DOING THAT IS MIND-BOGGLING.
>>AND WHAT AN INSULT TO THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHO MADE
HIM SECOND AND THE PEOPLE OF OHIO, WHERE HE WON, TO OTHER
CANDIDATES WHO LEFT THE RACE EARLY, BECAUSE HE HAD STATES HE
COULD DO WELL IN, THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE MONEY TO HIS CAMPAIGN
-- LAST NIGHT WAS WHAT YOU WERE WAITING FOR.
HIS OPENING TO STOP
TRUMP.
IF YOU ARE PART OF NEVER TRUMP, STOP TRUMP, WHATEVER THEY
CALL IT, THIS WAS YOUR OPPORTUNITY, THIS CANDIDATE WAS
YOUR CHANCE, AND IT'S GONE RIGHT NOW.
BEN CARSON IS HEADING UP
THE VEEP SEARCH.
HE THINKS TED CRUZ SHOULD BE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL, HE THINKS JOHN KASICH BECAUSE OF OHIO WOULD BE
AN ATTRACTIVE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
HE WOULD BE, BUT FOR
DONALD TRUMP?
I DON'T KNOW.
AND I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT CAUSED HIM TO
GET OUT.
I THOUGHT WOW, THIS WILL NOW BE MORE INTERESTING WITH TED
CRUZ GETTING OUT.
>> HE HAS ALREADY, ON THIS CAMPAIGN TRAIL, SEVERAL TIMES,
SAID WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO OUR PARTY?
WHAT IS GOING ON
WITH OUR PARTY?
THAT IS AIMED RIGHT AT DONALD TRUMP.
SO FOR
HIM TO TAKE A POSITION IN THAT ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T THINK HE
IS THAT EMPTY OF A SUIT AS CHRIS CHRISTIE OR RUBIO OR SOMEBODY.
>>HE IS NOT AN EMPTY SUIT, YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH WHAT HE SAYS,
BUT HE IS SHARP, HE COMES FROM A WELL REASONED PLACE, NOT A
KNEE-JERK PLACE.
LIKE EVERYBODY HE HAS HIS FOIBLES, BUT HE IS A
WELL THOUGHT OF --
>>CLASSIC CONSERVATIVE, ALL THAT STUFF.
HE'S NOT ONE OF THOSE
CHRIS CHRISTIE -- HE'S NOT ALL BLUSTER.
>>AND THAT MAKES ME WONDER, MAYBE THIS IS BEING NAœVE, THE
GUY HAS ALWAYS COME ACROSS AS PRETTY EMOTIONAL COMPARED TO THE
OTHER CANDIDATES HE'S RUNNING AGAINST.
HE LOOKS ON THE VERGE
OF TEARS A LOT.
EVEN WHEN HE IS DEBATING, HE WILL GIVE HIS WHAT
IS GOING ON WITH THE PARTY THING, HE DOES IT IN AN HONEST
WAY.
TED CRUZ WOULD DELIVER THAT AS A LINE.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME
HONESTY TO WHAT HE IS SAYING.
WHEN HE SAID HIS HEART ISN'T IN
IT, MAYBE HE IS BEING HONEST.
MAYBE HE IS SICK OF IT, MAYBE HE
DOESN'T WANT TO FACE THE BRUNT OF DONALD TRUMP'S ATTACKS.
>>THAT IS TOTAL DISHONESTY FOR THE LAST MONTH, THEN.
I CAN BEAT
HIM, I'M THE ONLY ONE, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN WIN THIS RACE IS ON
THE FLOOR OF THE CONVENTION, NOW BEAT HIM BY 69 DELEGATES AND YOU
ARE ON THE FLOOR OF THE CONVENTION WITHOUT ANYBODY
CHALLENGING.
WITHOUT ANYBODY HAVING ENOUGH DELEGATES, AND YOU
CAN CHALLENGE.
AND TO ME IT IS MIND-BOGGLING.
I HAVE WATCHED
THIS CAMPAIGN AND THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING, WEIRD -- HIS
CAMPAIGN, THE KASICH CAMPAIGN -- A WEIRD CAMPAIGN BECAUSE ALL HE
HAS DONE ESTATE IN THE RACE JUST TO BE THE LAST MAN STANDING,
RIGHT?
>>AND HERE IT IS.
WHO ELSE HAVE YOU TALKED TO -- EVERYONE FEELS
THE SAME WAY?
>>THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE I HAVE SPOKEN TO FEEL THE SAME WAY.
CRUZ AND KASICH SPOKE LAST WEEK, THEY SPOKE TO ONE ANOTHER, THEY
WENT THEIR WAYS IN THIS DIVIDED ALLIANCE, PEOPLE THINK MAYBE
THEY SAID IF WE CAN'T BEAT HIM IN INDIANA, WE WILL BOTH GET
OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I BUY THAT, THAT THEY HAD THAT KIND OF AN
AGREEMENT.
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T BEAT HIM IN INDIANA AND TRUMP
HAS THIS, BE THE SPOILER ELSEWHERE.
IT IS A MONTH.
>>AND THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHY WOULD YOU THEN MAKE THAT
AGREEMENT?
THE AGREEMENT MIGHT BE, WHY YOU ARE LEAVING, BUT WHY
DID YOU SAY THAT AT ALL?
>>TWO PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THAT MEETING, THAT IT WAS PREORDAINED
AT THAT MEETING.
I DON'T SEE HOW THAT MAKES ANY KIND OF SENSE,
I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS MAN WAS IN THIS RACE IF YESTERDAY
SCARED HIM OUT OF IT.
>> THE ONLY CRAZY IDEA IS THAT TRUMP IS PAYING THEM OFF.
>>I DON'T THINK SO.
>>YOU START TO WONDER.
>>I DON'T START TO WONDER THAT.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING WEIRD --
YOU START TO WONDER IF SOMETHING WEIRD IS GOING ON, BECAUSE THIS
IS THE DAY HE HAS WAITED FOR.
>>MAYBE 40 YEARS AGO HIS FATHER WAS IN A PICTURE WITH THE GUY WHO
SHOT REAGAN, HE'S WORRIED TRUMP WILL MAKE HAY OUT OF IT.
>>I HEARD THE SAME THING, THAT HE WAS FIRST GOING TO BE AT
DULLES AIRPORT, BUT THEN THEY SWITCHED IT TO A DULLER AIRPORT.
BUT IF YOU NOTICE WHAT HE IS DOING IN DROPPING OUT OF THE
RACE, IS HE DOES THAT THING, IT IS NOT THAT I'M UNPOPULAR OR
THAT I DID ANYTHING WRONG, IT IS THAT GOD WANTS ME TO DO
SOMETHING ELSE.
I'M IN TIGHT WITH GOD, AND I FORGOT, I MISSED
A CALL I GUESS A FEW WEEKS AGO, BUT NOW I GOT IT, NOW I'M GOING
TO CALL GOD AND HE WILL TELL ME WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.
I'M
SPECIAL, GOD HAS A PLAN FOR ME, I'M STILL SUPER COOL.
HE PLANNED
FOR ME TO BE GOVERNOR ALREADY, GOD PLANS EVERYTHING FOR ME.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME, THIS IS ABOUT GOD.
AND I'M DOWN WITH GOD.
>>HE IS VERY SECRETLY RELIGIOUS, JOHN KASICH GOES TO RELIGION A
LOT MORE -- BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS RACE, THEY
PAINTED THIS PICTURE OF JOHN KASICH AS -- IN THESE POLLS, THE
POLLS THAT SAY KASICH IS THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD HAVE BEATEN
CLINTON OR SANDERS, THE ONE THAT CONSISTENTLY CAN DO BETTER
AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT, I NEVER BELIEVED THOSE POLLS BECAUSE SO
MUCH CAN CHANGE.
COULD HE DO BETTER?
MAYBE, BUT I DON'T
BELIEVE POLLS THAT SAY THIS PERSON BEATS THIS PERSON IN A
HYPOTHETICAL MATCHUP SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
I THINK
THOSE ARE THE WORST POLLS --
>>STUDIES SHOW THAT AROUND APRIL THEY START TO HAVE PREDICTIVE POWER.
>>BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG THE LAST TWO CYCLES AND THEY
HAVE BEEN WILDLY WRONG AND DIVERTED, SO I DON'T THINK THE
POLLS MATTER AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY DO BECAUSE I
THINK THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY THINGS THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND
THEN THAT CHANGE A LOT IN TERMS OF SURROGATES, BUT THE NOTION
THAT JOHN KASICH WOULD BE MORE APPEALING TO AN INDEPENDENT OR
MODERATE VOTER OR A DEMOCRAT WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE STOMACH TO VOTE
FOR HILLARY CLINTON, THAT'S INDISPUTABLE.
>> THERE WAS NOTHING THAT THE PARTY COULD HAVE DONE, BUT THEY
SCREWED THEMSELVES OVER IN NOT BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING
IMPOSSIBLE -- AFTER WE WATCHED THE FIRST DEBATE, GO BACK IF YOU
CAN, I BELIEVE I SAID AT THAT POINT THAT THAT IS THE GUY THEY
SHOULD BE RALLYING BEHIND.
HE ONLY SPOKE FOR ABOUT SEVEN
SECONDS DURING THE FIRST DEBATE, BUT IF THEY HAD CLEARED OUT THE
FIELD EARLIER AND YOU HAD NOT HAD TED CRUZ, WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN THE ALTERNATIVE -- THE ALTERNATIVE TO A CRAZY PERSON
SHOULD NOT BE ANOTHER CRAZY PERSON WHO IS IN DIFFERENT WAYS
ALMOST EQUALLY REPULSIVE TO MANY PEOPLE.
>>BUT THE FIRST CRAZY PERSON, DONALD TRUMP, JUST TO
DISTINGUISH THE CRAZY PEOPLE, IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CRAZY THAN
THEYíVE EVER HAD.
LAST TIME YOU HAD MITT ROMNEY AT THE END,
HE WAS LIKE THE DONALD TRUMP, AND THEN NEXT TO HIM YOU
HAD RICK SANTORUM, WHO WAS THE CRUZ.
REPUBLICANS DO THAT DANCE,
THEY DID IT WITH PAT BUCHANAN -- THERE IS A CHRISTIAN
CONSERVATIVE SINCE ABOUT '88 OR '92 THAT COMES UP AND DOES THAT.
BUT BECAUSE OF TRUMP, THIS TIME, THE SORT OF MORE MODERATE
COULDN'T GET THROUGH.
THAT IS WHAT CRIPPLED KASICH, BUT I SAY
IT AGAIN -- 257 TO 188, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WIN BY MUCH IF YOU
ARE JOHN KASICH.
YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, YOU MIGHT HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO RAISE SOME MONEY, ESPECIALLY WITH CRUZ OUT OF THE
RACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S BEEN TO OREGON IN A WHILE -- WHY NOT
START DOING THAT NOW?
>>PLUS PORTLAND HAS A LOT OF GREAT RESTAURANTS AND HE LOVES EATING.
>> AND HE PLAYS BASKETBALL, HE RAN THE CONGRESSIONAL BASKETBALL
-- AND THE BLAZERS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
>>THIS IS A HEAD SCRATCHER.
>>I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THE EATING AND
THE HOOPS.
>>OR AS CRUZ WOULD SAY, RINGS.
>>HE KNOWS IT'S A HOOP.
>> WHAT DID HE REFER TO IT AS?
>>A BASKETBALL RING.
>>HE'S NOT A HUMAN.
HE'S AN ALIEN DOING A PASSABLE JOB.