- Oh, hi, there!
My guest tonight happens
to not only be one of the nicest people
in the world--facts--but also
is on one of the world's most popular shows.
You may have heard of it.
It's called--what is it again?
"WandaVision."
Please welcome the one and only Kathryn Hahn!
Hello! - [laughing] Lilly!
Oh, hello! - Can I just say,
seeing you makes me happy.
- Aww. Aww. - Truly.
Thank you so much for being on the show.
- Oh, it is so good to see you, even virtually.
- I know. - Oh, God!
- So much has changed
since the last time we've seen each other.
- I know. - For example, "WandaVision."
Congratulations. - [laughing]
- My God. - [laughing] Thank you.
- How does it feel? - Yeah, it's bonkers.
- The world--the entire world is talking about "WandaVision."
Have you taken that in,
or are you just living in a bubble on your own right now?
- I mean--I--it is--I mean, it is kind of like a bubble.
I mean, I know my kids have suspiciously
been a little bit nicer to me, so I know...
[laughing] That something has shifted,
but I have no, like, social media.
Like, I mean, I just got a computer last week.
I have been doing all my business on an iPad,
so, like, the whole--you know, I don't really know,
but I know--I know it's-- I know it's big.
- You don't have social media. - Uh-huh.
- Is there a particular reason?
Is it that you don't understand the tech side of things,
or is that a conscious decision for some reason?
- It started out-- I'm gonna be honest with you.
It started out pure laziness, um, just back in the day,
and now it's become, like, you know,
I'm kind of cool with not, um, having it.
- So you don't feel any type of FOMO?
You don't feel like you're missing out on something?
- No. Mm-mm.
- This means that you don't
feel obligated to take a picture of your dessert
before you eat it.
- No, I have never taken the time
to take a pic--to have to post a picture of anything
before I've eaten it or done it.
- This also means, when you listen to music,
you're actually listening to it and not thinking,
"Oh, that'll make a really good Instagram caption."
- You're right, I'm not--I'm--I'm really
not thinking of--of any of those things.
I'm just kind of doing it. Yeah. Kind of doing it.
- Really?
- Yeah. - Fascinating.
- It sounds--it sounds weird.
- Okay, so wait.
If you just got a computer, I have a question for you.
- Yeah.
- How did you read Marvel scripts?
Because I would imagine,
as someone who has never been in anything Marvel,
I'm just assuming that the scripts
are super confidential.
You need, like, 500 passwords that change every 30 seconds
to access it, so how did you do the scripts?
- Lilly, exactly.
Like, I--'cause I love, like--
I need my, like-- I need my paper.
Like, I need--I need to flip through it.
I need a highlighter.
I need, like, to make my notes,
and, like, I didn't have-- like, I have my--
you know, I went there, like, to shoot it
with my, like, phone, and so, like, you--of course,
like, Marvel is, like, deeply encrypted.
Like, they were like-- you had to go through, like,
two forms of, like, encrypted yadda-yadda-yadda-yadda,
and I was like, "Guys, this isn't gonna work."
Like, I can't--I'm not gonna be able to memorize anything.
Like, I can't read anything.
I was like, "You guys can trust me.
"Like, I am a profesh.
"Like, just give me a hard copy.
"Like, I promise you, like, you can trust me.
Come on," and so they, like, made such an exception
by giving me, like, hard copies of, like,
all of them, and I swear to you, like,
the--I was in the trailer, highlighting the lines,
making my notes, and then, the end of the night,
I got back to, like, wherever I was staying,
and I realized I had left, like, a sizeable chunk
back in the trailer... - [laughing]
- And I about crapped my pants.
I was like, "This--" I was like--I was like, "Uhh."
Like, called-- called everybody,
like, flipping out.
I was like, "Can somebody check the trailer?"
But thank God, they were in there,
safe and sound, but, I mean,
I had them plastered to my being
for the rest of the shoot.
Let's just say that. - I'm so intrigued by this
because acting is one thing, but to be part of a project
that is so secretive and... - I know.
- The information is so confidential, like,
how do you operate in life with that information?
- I had a couple of friends that are, like, comic...
- Mm-hmm.
- That were really deep in the comics,
that really tried to push me,
and so I had to really be careful
not to accept that second glass of wine,
because I knew... [both laughing]
'Cause I knew it could've been a slip,
and then once the train left the station
and once they started airing,
then it became fun to, like, just kind of wait.
- I would feel like the most powerful person in the world.
I would walk around like, "Oh, my peasants."
Like, that's how I would act if I was you.
- Honestly, because I'm such a newbie to the world, like,
to the--if I didn't, like, really understand the scale.
Like, you know, I would just drive my dusty minivan to set.
Like, I just had--you know,
I just didn't underst-- really understand,
and I think that kind of helped.
- I'm so happy for you. - Aww.
- Okay, let's get to the real deal, though, okay?
To recap, "WandaVision."
Boom. Here's the deal.
You start the series as, you know, a nosy neighbor,
but then we learn that you're not just Agnes the neighbor.
You're Agatha the witch from the Marvel comics.
- Mm-hmm.
- Now, there's a jingle associated with your villain,
that--and I quote, "It's been Agatha all along."
Is--are those your vocals?
- Yeah, can you get--can you believe I got a theme song,
and I got to sing it, and I got to sing it,
and guess who wrote it: the Lopezes,
who wrote s--"Frozen."
Like, it was--the whole thing was so dreamy
that I got to go into a sound booth
with those geniuses and sing that song.
[laughing] Like, it was so...
Like, the whole thing.
- So when you were first going in for this role,
walk me through this process.
How much did they tell you
when you first found out about the project?
Did you know about the twist? - I did.
When they pitched it to me,
I guess, like, they walked me through the whole arc.
Like, I walked into this conference room
that was like... ♪ Ah-ah-ah
It had, like, everything up,
and, um, they walked me through the arc of the show,
and I had a lot of questions...
[laughs]
So they had to-- they took their time,
and they walked me through.
Like, they had--I had to go--
I had to rewind a couple times
just to be like, "Hold on. Wait a minute. I--"
And then they--they were very patient with me,
and it just sounded, like, so crazy.
Just ambitious and delicious.
Like, I--I was like--I mean, it was such a no-brainer.
- And another thing the internet is exploding about
with the show is the amount of Easter eggs
that are in the show. - Uh-huh.
- Some that you catch,
some that you have to rewind and watch again.
Were you aware of all the Easter eggs,
or do you even find things in some scenes
where you're like, "Oh, this connection,
and this makes sense because of this"?
- I was not aware of all of the Easter eggs, Lilly.
I--there are so many
and so many layers to this thing.
I was not.
I mean, I was aware of the ones
that were on my personhood, but...
[both laughing]
But I was not aware
of the ones that were going on behind me.
Let's just say, like, there were so many that I--
that I have been catching in watching the show
or that have been pointed out to me
by members of my household. Yeah.
- So you mentioned "by your household."
You have kids, right? And your kids, do they--
- Yeah. - Are they fans of the show?
- Yeah. Yeah. Very much so.
- [laughs] - Yeah.
No, I mean, they can't let me really sh--
they can't let me really know it.
Like, a little bit.
Like, a little bit they let me know it.
Like, they're--like I said, they're being
suspiciously nicer to me all of a sudden,
but they can't rea--you know,
your mom is never gonna be that cool.
- Right, so they're trying to, like--
- They can't really let me have it.
- Right. Of course.
They really do secretly love it,
but they're like, "Oh, Mom's still a little lame.
Like, we gotta put on the facade."
- Yeah. - How is that dynamic, though?
Like, your kids, when they watch the show,
do they watch the show with you?
- Yeah! We make it-- we have a Friday night.
Like, it's--it's gonna-- it's really been so fun.
- And your family never tries
to get the information out of you.
- Oh, they do. Oh, yeah, they do.
- [laughing] - They do.
- Well, now, you've played such a array of roles now.
You've done a lot of comedy.
Now you kind of play someone
who can be considered a villain.
What role do you want to play now
that you haven't played yet?
- I mean, I know.
It's been, like--I--I don't-- I just have no idea.
Like, that is such a-- it's such an awesome question
because I don't know who she is yet.
Like, I don't know who she is, what the future is.
Like, I have--I have no idea.
There's so many genres.
Like, you know, I love horror so much.
Like... - Ooh.
- I--I don't know.
I mean, there's so--there's so many.
So who--who knows?
I'm just, like, you know--
I wanna just continue to be open and, like,
just continue to be grateful
for being able to play in all these different genres.
Like, I never would've thought that this was, like--
that this was in my future.
Like, this is nuts.
And to be in, like, a show like this,
which--it just is-- I'm--couldn't--I'm so proud.
- I'm--I'm so proud of you, too, and, you know,
I--I have known you-- I have known you're awesome
since day one, to be fair, but some people are just--
the internet is exploding about
your performance on the show, which is so great.
- Oh, my gosh.
I mean, I'm really, like, humbled and terribly excited,
and I just never would've thunk in a million years
it would've been, um, a fabulous gig like this.
Like, it's just-- it's all so rad.
- I said it in my intro.
You're one of the nicest people I've ever met.
Quick recap:
I had a small cameo in "Bad Moms," and--
- Yes, you did! - I was on the red carpet.
- It was a very small cameo, but I was on the red carpet,
and I was so nervous,
and I remember you had approached me,
and you were so nice and welcoming to me,
and you even said, like, "Hey, your zipper's, like,
coming off in the back," and you helped me fix my dress,
and I just remember feeling so welcomed by you
at a time where I was really nervous,
and I could pick up on your energy right then and there.
In this industry, where there's so many long hours,
where it's so easy to get jaded,
where it's so easy to get stressed out,
how do you Kathryn Hahn?
That's the question.
Like, "How are you
"the Kathryn Hahn you are right now
in this industry?" is my question.
- I mean, Lilly, I--
I mean, A, I'm from Ohio, and I just, like--
I think, B, I just feel like
I am still, like, you know,
I've been at it a long time,
and I didn't believe in myself for a long time,
and I still think of myself as, like, that person
that was, like, waiting
for the "Backstage" magazine to come out,
which is where you, like, got your auditions,
in the back, and, you know, back in the day in New York.
I just love that I get to do it.
Like, I just don't take any day at work
for granted, I think.
- Such an important answer, 'cause I always say
gratitude is the attitude, baby.
Anytime I meet someone who's like you,
gratitude is the attitude.