>> I’ve become. I remember I costly was telling my father as a dad you just don’t understand
our generation and I feel like
I’ve become my father I don’t
understand the younger
generation they they don’t seem
to want to work
do you think that I couldn’t I
couldn’t wait to work work work
for me after working as soon as
I was able to because
as I could get money to spend
things I think it’s stay don’t
want to work because they don’t
have to whether it’s their
parents or government kind of
sad or not.
>> And that is more from John
Mackey just talking about he’s
just exasperated doesn’t figure
with the work at the gwent
because he was don’t we don’t
know how we got it, but I would
to me
I remember getting my paper
seeing in 1213 1 more year I
can officially work
micro here talking his new see
his series is back on Monday
night. So Mike what is your
take on what John Mackey is
asking the question retort not
rhetorical he wants an answer.
What happened.
>> Well we have associated
drudgery with work.
All work self-fulfilling we’ve
made work the proximate cause
of our collective and
happiness. We believe today
that job satisfaction has
something to do with the job
and it really does it. If it.
If it weren’t that case.
Well guys like Booker T
Washington wouldn’t have
written what they wrote
if if if it were the case the
job satisfaction is all about
the job done all garbage men
would be equally miserable.
Wall Street. Yeah types would
be equally. Optimistic,
it’s laughable all talk show
hosts would be equally engaged.
You know
job satisfaction has something
to do with the job but a whole
lot more to do with the person
and if you if you start to look
at work like this thing this
that separate and apart from
the man or the woman. Then
then then you sort of arbitrage
the fun out of it. And you just
reduce it to action and
activity. Why do you think this
whole working from home thing
is so sensitive right now it’s
so it’s so fraught right
because a lot of people who
really favorite I think feel as
though OK finally
now I’m in control now I have a
measure of control that I
didn’t have over what I wear or
how I sit or how long my break
is or so for the social was
missing. So it sounds good.
I control my time working I
control what I do I decide what
I can wear them.
>> Yeah, I make my house in
office yet it up at all tracks
right up to the point where
you’re not an entrepreneur.
If you want to be an
entrepreneur if you want to
assume the risk
that comes with creating a
business if you want to set
your own hours. That’s all well
and good. But if you’re going
to accept a paycheck.
Then you’ve made it a bargain.
He’s made a different kind of
deal with yourself and with
your employer. You know
you don’t have to stick with
that deal for the rest of your
life, but you’ve made that
deal.
Micro I want to hear this.
I think was is it from tiktok
was I right this from tiktok
this is a 20 something you
talking about this new term.
Quietly quitting.
>> I’m hearing people talk
about
quiet.
about quiet. >> Quitting what that means is
people are not going above and
beyond or they’re not chasing
hustle culture at work they’re
just doing
their work acquired minimum
essentially they’re doing what
they’re getting paid to do
why does quite quitting have
such a negative Sure sounds a
lot to me like creating were
quick bounce for yourself.
>> A C plus
the sea. You know it’s a
passing grade right I mean it’s
if you work hard.
>> Look when I went to school
and probably you too we we’ve
got 2 greats.
>> We got a
grade 4. Our accomplishments
and our aptitude and we’ve got
a grade for our effort.
>> I got attitude his
attitude us well it was one to
5 I remember right right so all
that stuff really matters what
is your attitude what is your
philosophy, what is
have you taken the time to
think about your relationship
with work right like to really
think about it have you made it
the enemy
have you. Suggested perhaps
it’s the proximate cause of
whatever unhappiness you have
in your life most people have
so the idea of quietly
quitting. I’m sure is very
appealing to a lot of people
because they don’t have to step
up. And do it publicly you
don’t have to risk being
ostracized or shame. Right you
just quietly fade away. yeah,
that’s what I’m going to do
now.
But I got I actually really
didn’t hear you talk I actually
would just sports. One way not
to lose not
to play. And if you’re afraid
to to the point we don’t play
you blame the refs you quit
early to do things like that we
don’t engage at all.
>> So I go compete, I’m going
to go in will stream and where
that’s it I’m going to try to
make your way up if I fail I
want to feel like a failure, so
I’m not going to engage.
Those people are obsessed these
capitalists are obsessed with
winning and losing making money
I’m was more to life than that
sure put that gives you a
purpose and to impede ing it
gives you a bigger.
And if you have an approach
with the right way to test
yourself. That takes effort and
that takes risk and the way not
to have that
is to say those people are
terrible and misguided on out
and the way to give them the
experiment is to give him a
two-year break from working,
hey I’m not to work and then
take care of their apartments.
We have of forgiveness sure you
have to pay and guess who gets
hurt by that. Everybody else
and landlords who
didn’t get the run for 2 years
will take a kick them out look
and student loan payments it or
I what you’re reading my mind
we’ve we’ve just ask millions
and millions and millions of
people.
>> Who have worked really
really hard from the moment,
they got out of high school who
have built businesses to create
jobs. We’re asking those people
to write the check for one 0.7
trillion dollars in outstanding
student loans from people who
went another way who made
another choice. We’ll talk
about forgiveness fine I
forgive you. But not going
to forget. And I’m certainly
not going to pay it off and you
deal look you you took me 13
years to pay back customers
with the deferment which had go
to I had to go to the bank and
say listen. I couldn’t afford
$126 a month. So they say of 18
months. So when I came back was
to 25
and I did stand that to I to
close at every year toes, 35 is
just think about this morning
here that Joe Biden’s about to
forgive everybody’s loan.
I got 2 dozen friends. With
big fat car payments and
truck payments to run
construction sites. They need
their Ford 3.50 they they need
the big Dodge they have to have
it. They bought it they’re
paying it off they’re building
your house they’re building
our roads is anybody talking
about paying off the debt of
that truck that they know of
let me look it up nope. No of
course not and by the way nor
should we but the
all you need to know about
where the line is drawn.
It’s about what tools we value
people on dirty jobs. They
don’t quit quietly when they
quit they quit,
and they move on to the next
thing and they keep going
though to anything quietly.
They do everything proudly and
they do it
all the way up like Ernest
Hemingway said there’s only one
way to live. All the way up
doing it quietly doing
something the more important
thing is we’re probably ought
to do Well quitting quietly is
just another way of saying
whatever it is I’ve been doing
doesn’t matter the idea is
special and Hemingway. You
can’t say that I’m an expert on
it but doing a special on him.
He would write
for 3, 4 hours a certain time
certain day people say well as
those crazies on the scene and
it was there was a time to
write this time to work
and there was a time to live
life then write about what you
live that’s right and that’s we
did but he was disciplined you
see the same typewriter every
day.
>> In the same room and people
who not to bother him. So
even those people are
freelancing out there you’ve
got to set up a discipline
sipos the best example central
right to certain amount of
certain maritime needs he keeps
meticulously
and he lives a life in which he
made calls his own shots and he
does a better name buddy else.
But I would tell you the town
aside it’s the work. It’s the
discipline look this this is
why working from home is also
scary.
>> Most people don’t have
Hemingway’s force of will.
Why when you’re home like how
it’s very very difficult for
people to do it you just
described anyway by the way I
loved what he said about
athletics since you brought
that up he they’re only they’re
only 3 sports is boxing,
there’s race car driving
and there’s mountain Everything