[MUSIC PLAYING]
You know, whenever you have foot issues--
patients come in and sometimes they
have cracks on the bottom of their feet,
which looks like fissures.
Sometimes they have very hard skin that
could be corns or calluses.
There's a lot of things that can go on with someone's skin.
So I have a father and son coming in.
Their names are Bill and Liam.
And it seems like they have the exact same foot issue going on.
And they have very dry, hard, and cracked skin.
So what I want to do is see them and see
exactly what's going on.
My name is Bill Malie.
This is my 16-year-old son, Liam.
And this is my lovely wife, Kristen Malie.
My feet as a child sort of looked
like the surface of the moon.
Every step I take feels like I have,
you know, a small knife poking at a crack sometimes.
My condition has not only stopped with me.
It's also went on to my son.
KRISTEN: When Liam was about a year old,
his feet started to get scaly.
And then as he became a toddler, it started to take over.
So that is another reason that I'm here.
I'd do anything from my family and my children.
You can come this way.
OK
I'd just like to get ahead of the problem now
while I'm still young.
Go ahead and have a seat.
OK.
And I know as his age, not only is it a physical problem,
it was embarrassing for me.
You know, dating.
You know, you don't want to--
meeting a girl.
I mean, it's-- it takes away from your lifestyle.
- How's it going, guys? - Good.
DR. BRAD: We've got the family here, right?
- The whole family. - Yes, we do.
DR. BRAD: All right, that's cool.
And you are? - Bill.
DR. BRAD: Bill? Liam.
Liam.
- And Kristen. - Kristen.
- Yes. - Nice to meet you all.
My name is Brad, Dr. Brad.
Nice to meet you.
Well, why don't you tell me a little bit
about how this all started?
About the age of five or six, I started developing,
you know, rough skin.
DR. BRAD: Sure.
BILL: And then, uh, every year, it just progressed.
OK.
I used Bag Balms.
DR. BRAD: Sure, sure.
I even went as far as--
you know, urine is supposed to be good for your skin, right?
Urine? Yes.
KRISTEN: [LAUGHS]
What you do?
You pissed on your feet?
I-- I-- I peed on my socks.
OK.
Put a sock on it.
That's savage.
And then I put a-- like, a-- get a loaf of bread, the bag.
DR. BRAD: Sure.
And I would tape it up and sleep with my feet
soaked in my own urine.
I've heard of some crazy treatment plans for people,
but I've never heard of somebody peeing
on socks to heal their issues.
And were you dating him at the time when he was doing that?
Not when he was urinating on his socks, absolutely not.
[LAUGHTER]
So right now, what I would like to do is see them--
OK.
--and hopefully give you a definitive diagnosis.
So I'm going to remove your shoe.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
DR. BRAD: Yeah, man, they're super dry.
BILL: Yeah.
DR. BRAD: Wow.
This is something, you know, I've seen before.
Extreme calluses with fracking in the skin,
those are called fissures. BILL: Mm-hmm.
OK?
What I want to do for you today is I want to really shave down
these calluses for you, get all of these fissures
and cracks removed.
And after that, I'm going to take out my Dremel
and smooth everything down, OK?
After that, we're going to need to do,
like, creams and lotions.
And you have to keep up on top of it.
BILL: That's fine, right. - It's got to be--
you're going to help me out at home.
So I'm grabbing my 10 blade, and I'm
removing all the excess skin.
I'm also paying careful attention
to look at the fissures, which are
the cracks, in his skin, because they can be very painful.
The skin's right underneath you.
BILL: Yeah.
All right.
So I got the big chunks off.
What I want to do now is smooth this down.
Now I file all of those areas down to where I can
see some nice, healthy skin.
[DREMEL WHIRRING]
Good.
All right, cool.
So they look awesome.
Let's have you guys switch.
I hear you have the same thing going on, right?
Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing.
DR. BRAD: It's really good that Liam's here right now,
because if he doesn't get these treated today,
it's going to wind up as bad as his father's.
Do you pee on your socks like your dad?
No.
All right, well, I'd like to take a look at it first.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
DR. BRAD: Yeah, it is.
So looking at Liam's feet, it's clear that Bill
passed this on to his son.
His son Liam has the exact same thing.
So it's basically the exact same treatment plan.
I'm going to debride down any thick layers of callus
that I see.
After that, I'm going to get those things nice and smooth.
[DREMEL WHIRRING]
Nice, OK.
Now I'm going to be applying urea cream.
You'll do that every single day.
KRISTEN: Or daddy will have to pee on your feet.
[LAUGHTER]
So we just got done with Bill and Liam.
They're looking great.
They're going to see me back in a month.
I'm going to look at it and see how I can help them further.
We'll get this taken care of.
Today was just the first step, and I think it was a big step.
KRISTEN: Thank you.
DR. BRAD: Yeah?
OK, cool.
It was nice meeting you.
Nice meeting you.
DR. BRAD: And you're awesome.
All right. Take care, guys.
BILL: Thank you. - All right, bye.
BILL: Bye bye, now.
The visit with Dr. Schaeffer was tremendous.
My feet feel better already.
They look better.
And, uh, I think his look better too.
I've been with my husband for 26 years.
This is the best his feet have looked.
Yeah.
[LAUGHS]