You agree with my assessment that Vladimir Putin is now an evil, genocidal monster.
>> Yeah.
But I also when I look at I do sure who wouldn't what's happening is horrible.
Isn't a shame all those people are dead.
All because of a rigged election.
Because of our election wasn't rigged.
You would have had nobody dead.
>> I believe it was a free and fair election and that you lost.
You don't really believe, that's my belief.
>> Well, then you're a fool.
>> You really do have to hand it to Trump.
Because while he might be flawed in many different areas,
the one place where he always succeeds is essentially taking any issue.
Any political issue, any world event, and
turning it into a situation having to do with the 2020 election.
It is incredible.
And in this case, of course, it's in the context of a pierce Morgan interview where
he is discussing Russia's invasion into Ukraine.
The real problem isn't necessarily Russia's invasion.
It's that trump didn't win the 2020 election.
According to what he said in the interview.
In fact, why don't we watch that with more context?
And then we'll discuss.
When you watch what's happening.
I mean, do you agree with my assessment that Vladimir Putin is now an evil
genocidal monster.
>> Yeah.
But I also when I look at I do sure who wouldn't what's happening is horrible.
Far more people are dead than you think when I see all the death and
all that destruction, and it's such a stupid war.
It was a country and the people were happy,
I guess a lot of them were happy because they're certainly fighting for it.
But I'll tell you what I really think.
It isn't a shame all those people are dead.
All because of a rigged election because of our election wasn't rigged.
You would have had nobody dead.
When you said to Putin, don't invade Ukraine.
What was his?
>> Well, I told him what our response was going to be, and
his response was really I said really?
>> What did you say your response?
>> And you know what, if he believed me, good, but
if he believed me only 5% he would have said I'll never do it.
>> What did you say the response was?
>> I'm not gonna say that, but it was a very strong response.
>> Did you threaten, for example, the nuclear capability.
I don't want to talk about, I don't wanna talk about that.
>> Maybe he doesn't want to talk about it because he never threatened Putin if he
dared to invade Ukraine.
In fact, every step of the way he made it easier for Putin to invade Ukraine?
Now, why he didn't do it under Trump's watch is really a big question.
But remember it was trump who withheld hundreds of millions of dollars
in military aid that Ukraine needed to defend itself from Russia, and he did.
So with a quid pro quo in mind, I'll give you the money if
you announce a sham investigation into the Bidens.
That was the first reason why Trump was impeached by the House.
But nonetheless, it is incredible Jake.
He talks about how it's just it's a tragedy, all these people are dying.
But what the real tragedy is that I didn't win the election,
[LAUGH] because allegedly those people wouldn't die had he won the election?
>> Okay, but why wouldn't they have died?
Well, I'm not gonna tell you.
Okay, I know this the that part has been a republican trick for a long time,
where Richard Nixon said during one of his really during his reelection effort.
I have a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam.
What is it?
No, it's secret, never had a plan and then never ended the war.
So and Donald Trump doesn't have a secret plan for
preventing Russia from going further in Ukraine.
He didn't have a secret plan for preventing them for
invading in the first place, they did invade.
But there's a little bit of ironic credit that I'm gonna give
Trump here because I thought he would never criticize Putin.
And the reason I thought that was because I thought they had some sort of
financial relationship that we never got enough evidence on to reveal.
But there he did significantly criticize Putin.
>> I wonder if that's.
>> That's the first time I've ever seen him do that.
I wonder if that financial relationship could be up in the air now that Russia is
dealing with serious sanctions.
I don't know.
>> That could be it, or
it could be that he was looking forward to that it wasn't in the past.
That he was looking forward to Putin doing something for him after the election and
since he didn't get anything now, he's like, yeah, genocidal killer, whatever.
>> Listen, at the end of the day, Donald Trump looks out for Donald Trump and
Donald Trump is definitely eyeing a run for president in 2024 now.
Where is the mood toward Vladimir Putin among the republican electorate?
Do they see Putin as someone that they favor?
Do they have complimentary things to say?
Certainly there's a small group of republicans in this country, for
some reason they love Vladimir Putin.
But overall polling suggests that Republican voters are not happy with what
Putin is doing.
They feel terrible for the people of Ukraine.
In fact, I think that the country more or
less is pretty united on that issue as we speak.
So I think, if Trump's looking ahead to the future and
his potential run in 2024, he's gonna wanna change his messaging.
But I don't want anyone to forget what Trump's messaging was
as Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine because Trump was complimentary.
So just imagine Trump being president when Putin did the invasion.
This is what you would hear from the President of the United States in response
to Vladimir Putin.
>> I said this is genius.
Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine.
Putin declares it as independent.
That's wonderful.
>> Yeah, I'm sure he threatened Putin and persuaded him not to invade Ukraine.
Sure that happened.
>> So look, I'm telling you, I'm fascinated by this clip because
you've got the usual clownish nous of Donald Trump.
Claiming, if he had one, rainbows and
unicorns would sprout out of every hill and molehill in Alabama,
I'm quoting king for no reason and only half a sentence.
Okay, anyways, but I am surprised I'm being, I'm being like that's what we do,
we're honest on the show, I'm surprised that he criticized Putin.
I've literally never, ever seen it, and
he agreed to calling him a genocidal killer there.
And so I wonder if that has any kind of blow back because what I've always
thought, and maybe I'm wrong is that Putin had something on him,
not the tape and all that stuff.
We were always skeptical of that, right?
But I thought they had a financial relationship.
Putin could release that information at any time.
That's why when they were together Trump was always like Vlad, whatever you say,
Vladimir American government's full of crap.
Vladimir Putin is right, right?
So now that he's calling him a genocidal killer at least
once I wonder if Putin does have it and releases it, that would be amazing.
But maybe he doesn't have it.
Maybe I was wrong.
>> I don't know,
I think that there might be legitimacy to the potential financial relationship.
Putin having dirt on Trump.
>> No that's what I mean.
The financial relationship, yeah.
>> Yeah okay.
So, but going back to Putin potentially having Donald Trump.
I don't think Trump is worried about dirt coming out about him because he's become
a complete master of like flipping the narrative and using it to his advantage.
Dirt coming out about Donald Trump has never hurt him ever.
It's only made him stronger.
>> Yeah, if this had the pee tape, or they had the horse tape?
Whatever, I don't care.
Right, I've just made that one up.
[LAUGH] Okay, there's no horse tape, nobody's even alleging horse tape.
[LAUGH] And one of the reasons I never believed in the alleged tape was
because he's a germophobe, it never made any sense anyways.
But if he had, unless it's with kids, it wouldn't matter at all, okay.
And what if it's with kids it's 50, 50 does he have him on videotape?
And even then republicans might like who cares, right?
>> No, you're absolutely right about that.
>> Yeah, I wonder though if you could prove that he actually had a financial
relationship with the Russians and
that's why he sold out the country to the Russians.
If that would get through the very, very thick skulls of the right wing, or
if they'd be like, yeah.
Of course, our president's supposed to sell us out to a foreign country.
>> He's a businessman.
>> You betray the country so you can make more money.
>> Smart treason is good, actually.
>> Yeah, who knows?
Who knows. But at this point, by the way again,
I wanna be clear that piece.
That tape right there is counter to the idea that he had any
relationship with Putin.
So fair is fair.