I think the whole idea of white privilege
is setting us back.
I believe that if I were black,
I would be exactly where I am now.
The victimization culture going on right now
just frustrates the crap out of me.
I think some people in the black community
use the victimization as an excuse not to do well.
I feel like the black community needs
to take some responsibility for their own problems.
I never blamed anybody else for my setbacks.
I don't feel like I should be blamed
for something that my ancestors did to your ancestors.
What I should do is go into my bedroom
and flog myself 60 lashes
and pray for forgiveness every day
because I'm white.
Okay, Wendy says she has worked hard
for all her successes and never benefited
from white privilege.
So she does not understand
this victimization culture, as she calls it,
that's going on right now.
And then there is Rene, a different Rene,
who says the term white privilege
should be abolished because it just does not exist.
Take a look.
I don't feel like I ever benefited
from the so called white privilege.
I was raised in a blue collar family.
We lived in a black and white neighborhood.
I never felt that I was given more opportunities
than any of my African American friends.
I do believe that people of color
are the most privileged in this country.
They are afforded luxuries that are not given
to the white Caucasian person.
When I was a small child in grade school,
and my African American friends would all get
free lunches and I would go home and be like, why is that?
I worked for ten years
as a subsidized housing manager,
and I got to see first hand
the privilege to minorities.
All the news wants to talk about
is the white policeman who shot
the young black boy running away.
Well, if you weren't causing a crime,
then you wouldn't run away.
If it walks like a duck,
talks like a duck, it's a duck.
(crowd chanting)
I do think that African Americans
are making a point to fuel racism
in this world today.
And that this term white privilege is one way
to bring it to the forefront.
I absolutely believe
that the term white privilege
should be abolished.
Privilege should be earned,
privilege should not be afforded to you
just because the world says that you are a minority.
Okay, well, joining us in the audience
is Rene and Wendy, and thank you all for being here.
Thank you for having us.
It's good that you're having this show
because what we see in the media is that
we are constantly blamed and shamed
for being white and we don't know what to do.
If I'm part of the problem,
the white privilege problem,
I have to be part of the solution.
I have to be able to be heard.
You have to admit there's a problem
before there's any solution.
We have to understand and be able
to have this conversation that says,
look, we wanna get to a society
which has much less racism,
but we're not there yet. We do.
We just want to be equal with everybody.
We're all humans. But you're asking--
We're all Americans, we need to be one.
You're asking for that to happen now
but it can't happen now
because we're not there yet.
We're not there.
Let me just say.
Let me just say, I mean, I have PHD and a law degree,
I have been asked, people have looked at me
because of how I look and my son looks,
they've looked at me, white people,
and they've said,
do you speak English? Wow!
You know?
I mean, I've been told--
That's stereotyping like you said.
And they say it really slow don't they?
Yes, because they're trying to,
you know and I'm like.
I answer real slow, too. And loud, slow and loud?
We're not there.
One of the ways we get to solutions
is by listening and hearing.
You guys keep pushing back,
you're so defensive, you won't let us talk.
We're just frustrated
and tired of being attacked all the time.
We're not attacking, we're trying to educate
and we're all telling you that we still
on a daily basis experience racism, micro-aggressions
and if we're going to change this, you ladies,
you white women, listen!
You've gotta listen and hear us
and try to empathize with our experiences.