Man you consider a lot more than I do I just
get the thing rolling, stick a filter on it aftewards
there's me I think I'm overthinking it
too much just let's just get in there
and do it okay
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let's get into this James has a YouTube
channel that you should definitely check
out he has some wonderful videos on
hypnosis but as I started to talk to him
I found out that his actual background
is in NLP yeah so I was expecting to
have this like showdown with him here in
Vegas we're gonna fight it out you know
NOP versus hypnosis but turns out we're
on the same side here yeah we are within
the same side I mean for me in a lot of
ways I know there's a lot of different
definitions out there for NLP there's a
lot of different definitions for Moses
but in my world there's so much overlap
and I think if you're gonna get good
that either I mean really good that's
your mission to get I always say to
people you know if you're gonna go for
something and I think he's worth
approaching both from both angles that's
that's my view on that yeah when I did
my first hypnosis training I had done
two NLP practitioner trainings and when
I did that hypnosis training it really
just blew the lid off of NLP for me like
I understood it opening in a way that I
never understood it and from that point
on I would always recommend that people
at least take one course and in hypnosis
and actually that's why I'm here is to
take James's workshop which is a
bootcamp kind of workshop
some serious stuff we're gonna get dirty
in this one right I'm gonna drill drill
drill those skills
yeah well further our NLP practitioners
who are watching yeah
what would they get out of a workshop
like we're the one you're gonna teach
starting tomorrow the way I teach him
those this is all about it's all about
leading people directly into altered
experiences of reality and that might be
something like you know a state of
competence where previously wasn't there
but it might be some of those classic
and nautical an omen of things like a
hand stick or a name amnesia something
like that I always loved to playing with
classic and nautical phenomena using a
more NLP approach how can we take
someone directly into an experience of
not being able to remember their name or
directly into an experience have seen
something that isn't there without
having to go through all this trance
induction to start which is the kind of
classic way it actually isn't isn't
required so my whole angle is about what
I couldn't precision elicitation of
hypnotic phenomena taking somebody
directly
if you look at you get all this in NLP
and you learn to learn sensory acuity to
see how things are shifting changing one
of the wonderful things about using
hypnotic phenomena as a way of
developing your skills if you get really
obvious feedback if you're taking
someone in to experience at their
handstand well you see the sticking or
isn't so you don't have to look for
anything too subtle
something is either something really
vivid is happening or it isn't I think
another thing is is once you once you
develop the skills and competence to do
that it gives you a lot of certainty in
everything outside its kind of shifting
people state a little bit once you've
gotten into a place where they do
don't access their name anymore seems
like that smaller challenge you see what
it means
I find claim that phenomena stop really
is developing skills but also developing
people Michael confidence luck on issue
with that work a lot like somewhere else
one of the things I feel like they don't
spend enough time on in a NLP training
whether it's practitioner or even master
practitioner is pacing and leading it's
not like this thing that you you learn a
little bit and one day or live in a half
day and then you're off but and they
have no such training that I did
everything is pacing and leading yeah
and the pacing is so hypnotic because
what you're having the person do is
you're just you're just saying things
that they already know can already
access they can't disagree with and when
you learn it in that basic level then
you take it into a little bit more
complexity like with some of the help
key frames and processes when you start
with that when you go very basic like
that and really practice that in then it
makes the enoki so much more powerful
that was my experience yeah absolutely
and for my approach their noses at my
bridge approach them no so is quick
hypnosis without drugs and what that
means is you don't have to do that
classic trance adduction putting someone
into a special state called trance isn't
what has them respond to the suggestions
people respond to suggestions all the
time right
they cannot not respond to suggestions
so the point is to bypass this idea of
trance but it's to work with the person
as they are as they are showing up in
the moment
this means pacing and leading is the
foundation for everything when I teach
the hypnosis skills bootcamp the first
thing I do is I teach pacing and leading
but I teach it non-verbally so nonverbal
pacing and leading is the start point
that's another thing I'll say about
hypnosis and NLP is I love language I
love the the way language to shape can
lead people conceptually seed ideas
shape experience but when I teach him
know society start with the nonverbal is
first so nonverbal communication is
primary if you can get people you can
pay some leave nonverbal you can start
shifting people in the states moving the
direction of their attention of thinking
non-verbally first when you judiciously
add language it you get a lot more
congruence a lot more resonance in your
communication so I tend to do it the
other way around from a lot of the ways
that many people approach post hypnosis
and NLP which you know again I love
language I love the power of language
but my definition of the gnosis that I
always give is the use of language and
communication to direct attention
believe cognition and seed ideas for the
purpose of leading someone into an
altered experience reality alright were
you getting me really excited about
tomorrow it's gonna be a fantastic two
days what would you say is the
difference between conversational
hypnosis and NLP
I don't know and that's my honest answer
because it depends on who you are as to
what NLP is I trained with a fair number
of people in NLP and they all tell me an
LPS different thing John grinder tells
me NLP is modeling and it's just
modeling control that's absolutely fine
and everything else is a byproduct to
then it will be I probably don't have
the right to do this fine disagree with
John random sort of work on this in that
what people know of is NLP is it is this
stuff that yes has come from modeling
but so again I just think it's a
different name for the different things
may be conversational hypnosis is a part
of anybody that's what I feel like it is
right and NLP is broader than that
because it includes the modeling it
includes some over processes and these
sorts of things which you can't really
call conversational so I would say that
if I had to conceptualize the
conversational hypnosis in a zone as a
as a subcategory and when I originally
learn and help me that was the thing
that got me it was not it was the
modeling to a degree what was the idea
that you could
changed my life that seriously changed
my life the idea that Who I am is not
some fixed innate thing I just did a
video on that Yeah right agree more like
yeah I mean when I say changed my life I
am NOT taking that lightly there on
meaning you know the idea that right
people are a collection of patterns I
can change my patterns I can change my
patterning yeah so that was a huge game
changer for me but when it came to the
kind of more practical side that the
doing side very early on my decision was
I was gonna master the conversational
hypnosis piece so I was actually a
conversational hypnotist way before I
studied eliciting a nautical phenomena
and doing that kind of thing which is
partly why when I then later went to
learn from direct in the tests
old-school direct impetus
I liked the results they were getting I
hated the way they were doing it right
because I like this conversation with
Frank I like to go to sit down quietly
with somebody and use elegant
communication to lead them directly into
experiences to shift their space
directly that's what I like to do so I
decided well I'm going to do this dive
this hypnotic phenomena stuff but more
conversational
and actually that's what marked out
diagnosed their trance approach the
result reason I originally started to do
a video blog on it this is a seduce
treatment gnosis and all the other
street Novartis thought you had to pull
people's arms and shout sleep put them
into deep trance States in order to get
these phenomena happening and I was
sitting down a coffee shop table and
having a conversation with somebody and
their hand would start to stick to the
table and all these other Street
hypnotist is saying how the hell are you
doing that how is that possible to do
and well because we're using our
language of communication to directly
lead and shape experience we don't need
this whole trance ritual thing and he
had enough interest in our big war
curious about that I started video blog
me on it and it kinda took off
but it's really grounded in that NLP
conversational hypnosis
I'm a pragmatist and a creator and not a
scholar so I'm not interested in what is
correct in NLP I couldn't give a grant
was correct in an LP what is or is an LP
or is or isn't your gnosis I'm just
interested in stuff that works and stuff
that I can take and I can play with and
get results with you maybe I just do
I do carry-on stuff whether it's court
hypnosis I don't be whatever you are
call it whatever whatever works yeah all
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to find me on youtube I'm on James Tripp
Chaos Wave on YouTube I have a website
as well if you're interested in
hypnosis which is www.hypnosiswithouttrance.com and you
can get on there my free report hypnosis
beyond the trance myth which will tell
you why you do not need trance
inductions to get deep trance phenomenon
now make sure you check out his content
he does amazing work and he really knows
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first video that I saw of yours I get
the other much started watching his
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