(toy car buzzes)
- (chuckles) We all know that drifting
is some of the coolest stuff around.
Sliding sideways,
banging off the red limiter,
making a bunch of tire smoke.
It's pretty cool.
We know this.
That's why I wanna do it.
(upbeat pop music)
(tires screech) (engine revs)
Luckily, my boy Cirone,
has a project drift car.
You may remember it from this channel before
because I was talking some (bleep) to my boy,
'cause he wasn't working on it enough.
Guess what?
He's worked on it a bunch and this thing rips now.
But now he is trying to get it ready for drift week,
which is a week of drifting madness and absolute mayhem.
So, he keeps saying he needs more angle.
What does that mean?
Well, we are gonna find out today.
I figured this would be a good excuse
to do some drifty stuff on Money Pit.
I'm Zach.
This is Money Pit.
That's Cirone.
Let's slide around.
(toy car buzzes)
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(items clank)
- (chuckles) All right Cirone.
Get us up to speed.
What are we looking at?
- This is my 93, 325i.
This car has an S52 swap,
got some cool Sparco bucket seats,
along with a Momo steering wheel,
a handbrake that came from Craigslist,
so I have no idea what brand it is.
Go into the rear,
I've got some cheap eBay Canberra arms,
and a Wilwood dual caliper set up in the rear.
So that's pretty sweet.
Up front is,
I've got these style 32s wrapped in some sticky Nexans.
Yeah, other than that,
that is it.
So now I wanna get more angle.
- So let's talk about what the hell that even means.
(upbeat pop music)
All right, so what is steering angle?
Well, when we are talking about steering angle,
we are talking about
the maximum angle the wheels can go at lock to lock,
or at the far ends of the steering travel, okay?
And in a stock car,
you maybe have about 30 degrees of angle each way,
and that's just not enough for drifting.
For drifting you want more angle,
so you can put the wheel more sideways.
It gives you more angle to play with
to save the car from spinning out.
So, we know that we want more steering angle,
but the question is, how do we get it?
Well, we'll get to that in a minute.
But first,
let's measure how much steering angle we have right now,
so that we can compare it to
after we install our steering angle kit.
- I'll be happy at 60.
I'll be like, damn. (laughs) - I think 60 would be sweet.
I'm guessing that we're gonna have about 35 right now stock.
- Yeah, I'm gonna guess 35 stock.
- So I whipped up a sweet little angle finder unit jabbi.
Just gonna throw this down here.
(angle finder screeches)
All right Cirone, let's see what we got.
Yank on that wheel my boy. - It's a cranker.
Oh baby, oh baby. (grunts)
- [Zach] Is that it?
- [Cirone] That's it.
- We are at 30.
We got 30 degrees of angle.
Okay, so we were close.
30 degrees. I think we are gonna be able
to significantly improve on that though.
We are gonna be able to get a lot more angle
out of this thing today.
All right.
So here is our steering angle kit.
We got it from SLR, and it's super sweet.
This is kind of the central piece of the kit.
This is what's gonna give us more steering angle.
This is called a steering plate,
and it's honestly pretty simple.
So basically this pin here
will go through our new spherical bearing
at the end of our control arm, right?
So that goes in the bottom of the control arm.
And then this is our new tie rod end.
The thing that steers your wheels.
The thing that determines how much angle you can get.
So this bolt out here is where our tie rod used to connect.
So you can see that we've moved it in
towards the center of its axis of rotation.
So that means this lever is a little bit shorter.
So that means that for any steering input,
this is gonna turn more.
So that right there
is what's gonna give us all the steering angle.
It's also sweet that it's got this beefy Heim joint
that looks like it could take an absolute beating.
So we've got our steering plates,
then we've got our DIY parts.
Cirone tell me about it.
- So first, I went out and got some new control arms,
and cut the end off and welded this extended piece in.
Now, I can't weld,
so my good friend and engineer Brandon Patterson
welded this up for me,
and put these beautiful welds on
to make this arm. - Oh, it's beautiful.
- And now these extensions make the arm two inches longer
than the original arm.
- That's what gives these drift cars
the bulldog stands up front.
- Yeah, I'm gonna be looking like this.
I'm gonna be looking like Jimmy in all those photos.
- Yeah, you are gonna be looking tough.
So this is the part of the kit that's a little bit DIY.
You know, we take a stock BMW control arm,
we cut it,
and we add a part of the SLR kit.
Thanks to Brandon's welding, it looks dope,
and this should have plenty of clearance for the wheel.
'Cause you gotta think when the wheel is at full lock,
one of the things that you run into,
is the inside of the control arm.
This has a nice boomerang shape
that should give us plenty of room for plenty of angles.
So I'm really excited.
I think we are gonna get
maybe that 70 you were talking about.
All right, so now we understand the control arm setup,
our little DIY part of the kit,
now let's talk about the last piece, these purple tubes.
These are basically just tie rod extenders.
So by extending our control arms
we move the wheels further out.
And basically we need to extend our tie rods
to get to where they need to be.
So these will allow us to get all that angle
out of our stock steering rack.
So these very simple,
these basically one end goes onto our Heim,
and then the other goes into our stock inner tie rod.
But where we need to be is actually on the car.
So let's start installing.
You guys know how to throw a boomerang?
You kind of aim out that way.
You wanna hold it like this,
and then everything you got.
- [Cirone] You know. (equipment whooshes)
- Give me a jack.
- Pump, pump.
Pump it up. Pump, pump. - I love these episodes.
All right, we got the wheels off,
got the car in the air,
in the opposite order of that. So now all we need to do is
pop the tie rods out of the knuckles,
get our stock control arms out of here,
and put our new stuff in.
So let's get some tools on the job.
Yeah well, when you do that,
just grab the jack.
So that happens a lot with ball joints, tie rod ends.
When you break it loose and hammer it out,
then you just end up spinning the whole thing.
Sometimes there is an Allen up top
that you can counter hold and then use a wrench,
but in the case that there isn't that like this,
what you can do is actually take your jack
and just put some pressure back up against it into its hole,
and that will hold it.
And then you can pop it out real easy.
So I'll show you that on my side.
(equipment clanks)
- Okay, learning hour.
- All right, so as Cirone's wrenching,
let's talk real quick about
some of the other things that these plates do.
One of the things that these do
is give you control over your Ackerman settings.
Ackerman is basically the idea that when a car takes a turn,
the two steering wheels,
the inside and the outside wheels,
have to travel different circles,
which means they need to basically have different angles.
Now that's great.
That's awesome for road racing and maximum grip
when you are driving a car traditionally.
But when you are drifting,
you don't necessarily want very much Ackerman because
well, the car is going sideways,
so the wheels kind of just need to go in the same direction.
So these give us control over that.
By sliding this forward or backward, this bolt right here,
we can control the Ackerman settings.
We can give them normal Ackerman
or aggressive Ackerman for road racing,
or we can dial out all the Ackerman for drifting.
All right, so Ackerman controlled.
That's pretty cool.
But there is one other trick that these ponies do.
So let's talk about that real quick.
It's called roll center correction.
And I'm gonna use my body
to try to depict what's going on here.
Stick with me.
Okay.
So in a stock car,
alright, let's pretend for this
that my arms are the control arms on a stock car,
and my body is the body of the car.
So a stock car, the control arms are down like this at rest,
and when you hit a bump, you kind of go like that.
Same kind of deal in the corner, okay?
But then when you lower your car,
you basically lower the center of it
but the control arms stay like this.
So then you really flatten out your control arms.
Now when you hit a bump, you are gonna invert them,
and when you are going over corners,
you are doing all this crazy stuff.
So these steering plates
let us drop our control arms back down.
The car is still lowered,
but we get to actually correct our roll center
and put our control arms back to where they should be.
So that gives us a lot better handling.
So, really simple and quite choice.
(equipment clanks)
(heaves)
(upbeat guitar music)
All right, so here you can see the control arm extension
we were talking about before.
This is what,
so this is the control arm in its original stock form.
This is what this one used to look like
before we brutally cut off the end
and welded some new bits on.
So you can see how significantly extended that is.
Two, two and a half, almost three inches.
All right, we got the old stuff out,
and now it's time to throw the new stuff in.
This is the fun part.
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- So, I'm reassembling.
Now, this is the chassis mount for the lower control arm,
also known as a tree house--
- [Zach] Or a lollipop.
- Or a lollipop, I don't why.
Or a FCAB. - [Zach] What do you mean
you don't know why people call it a lollipop?
- Why do they have so many names?
Tree house, lollipop, FCAB. - Oh well.
Well, it looks like a lollipop.
I don't know about a tree house.
- [Cirone] That one makes sense.
Why do they call it a tree house then?
I don't see anything about this like a tree house.
- So yeah, this is just the rear position
front control arm bushing.
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Yo, that looks way cooler.
Bulldog.
Did you get it?
- [Cirone] Does it clear?
- Well, define clear.
At present it clears.
All right, I mean the thing looks cool. You see the (grunts)
- [Cirone] Looks like a bulldog.
- (barks) It's the moment of truth.
How much angle does our dangle now have?
- Let's see what we got.
I'm voting 60.
Maybe plus nine.
Oh.
(gadget screeches)
Oh.
Urgh, not quite.
It's so close.
- That looks like a hard 53 and a half.
- [Cirone] All right, yeah.
- I'm gonna round up to 54.
Six short of 60.
- [Cirone] Pretty good.
- But there is a nice big plane overhead right now.
So I mean really, this should be a pretty good setup
to get this thing sideways.
- Yeah, I think we should,
we could maybe do some backies like this.
- You wanna go try?
- We should go to the track and try and do some backies.
- What a great idea.
Let's go back to the track for some backies with Zach.
(tires screech) (engine revs)
We are back in one of my favorite places in the world,
Willow Springs International Raceway.
And today we got two main goals.
First off, most importantly,
we are gonna get Cirone in the E36 and put him out on track,
let him get a few laps,
and we'll see if he thinks the angle kit
is making him a better drifter.
And then most importantly, we are gonna put me in the car
and see if I can drift at all.
To give you a little bit of context,
this is gonna be Cirone's
I think third time drifting in real life.
He's been up here and he's gotten the hang of it.
This is gonna be my first time drifting in real life.
I've slid around in the snow,
I've done some power slides,
I've done some virtual drifting on the simulator,
but this is gonna be my first time
sliding a real car on real pavement,
with real concrete walls.
So hopefully I don't wreck Cirone's car.
I would feel really bad.
I'm gonna let him get some laps first
and let us know how he thinks it feels.
We'll see if it makes him any better of a drifter.
And then we'll see if your boy can drift,
well, at all.
(upbeat pop music)
- Last time I came here,
I felt really good about the car,
I was driving great all day,
trying different setups,
getting different advice,
trying different things,
but now just street driving this car on the way over here
the front end feels so much better,
and I feel much more confident in the car.
So, hopefully this is gonna work out.
I feel really good about it.
(engine revs)
- Well, so having all the extra angle
that we added with the angle kit
is gonna allow him to save a lot more things.
Like if he is about to loop out,
he's got more angle to counter steer and correct,
like kind of in that instance there,
although he's still looped out,
but he will be able to save a lot of things
that he would have not been able to save.
And it just allows him to make more angle
to go more sideways.
It also steers a little bit quicker.
So it should be a little bit more responsive for him,
and hopefully just feel better overall.
So, it sounds like it does.
He said it felt great just driving around.
So hopefully it feels great out there.
(engine revs) (tires screech)
- I feel so much more confident
because I see there is so much more room in the steering.
So I'm driving close to where I was driving before
without the angle kit,
but now I feel more confident
to go a little bit faster into a lot of the turns,
and use the angle to go through them.
So I do think it's working,
I do think the geometry correction is huge.
The front end just feels so much more planted.
And excited to see what Jobe is gonna do here.
Maybe a back flip.
- All right, I'm gonna start out a lot chiller than Cirone
since this is not my car, and it's my first time.
Probably just gonna do some donuts
get a feel for the car,
see how that goes, and go from there.
(engine revs)
(tires screech)
- [Cirone] Here is Jobe's qualifying round number one.
Nice entry there.
Nice transition.
Look at that, using a lot of angle.
Come on, you can get out of it baby.
Oh.
Qualifying round number two.
Zach Jobe on the line.
(engine revs) (tires screech)
- [Zach] Well, we did it.
- [Cirone] We did it.
- That was fun.
That was super sick.
- We done the drift.
- All right, so talk to me about the steering angle kit.
What do you think?
- Honestly, I think it was a great move.
Do I,
can I flat say it will make you a better driver?
(sighs) That's like saying-- - It gives you,
it puts more tools in your arsenal,
but seat time really is what you need.
- Seat time is what you need.
I do think if you can afford the weights to do an angle kit
seat time is always gonna outweigh that,
but I do think the confidence that the angle kit gave me
was massively beneficial.
- Just knowing that it's there is nice.
- Just knowing that it's there--
- And even just me doing like some donuts around the cone.
Like, I've done that before in cars with stock angle,
and it's easy to lose it.
But with that amount of angle you can just always save it.
And it feels great.
But I think that's probably gonna do it for today.
I think this has been a lot of fun.
I've had an absolute blast today.
So thank you guys for watching.
I hope you had a good time too,
but we'll see you guys next week.
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