because of this guy, of course, but the rest of the team's damn
good too. It's coming along Justin Herbert, he is
the number three quarterback and football. I mean him, Joe
Borough.
I mean, their incredible talents. We know that the thing
I would say about Justin Herbert, probably the best pure
thrower of the football in the NFL, all right? When I'm
talking about,
you're in the pocket and he's got,
you know, a clean Lane and he's acted. I don't know if there's
anybody better at hitting the bullseye
with power throws. Any type of throw
then just on Herbert, he knew loses no control of
the football. I mean he course has an incredible arm and credible
and that's where I mean he separates himself. I mean again
now like
I'm not sure anyone's more consistent in the pocket when
things are clean of that, like I said, making unreal on
the ball on the money type 2 rows, you know,
Maybe the best arm in the NFL. It's closed. I mean
two of the guys we got coming up here are also in that
conversation. But if somebody came to me and when I think
Justin Herbert has the strongest arm and football,
I wouldn't go. You're crazy.
I'd go. Yes, I understand that. He
falls off his back foot, throw 65-yard posts with. He's four
touchdowns. He rolls to the right and throws post back
across the field. 62 yards
with these four touchdowns.
His he is the ultimate sizes, ask Old guy and I know people
hear me say that again, but this is a guy that like Dak
Prescott and Brady. There is, you know, the ability to throw
over the line, you know, people around you like Dak Prescott
and still make high-quality throws are amazing. The
decision-making is off the charts there. The ability to
control the ball, over the middle of the field and throw
the ball into Tight Windows. Might be the best in football,
not to that category as well because of his
size. You see? So well over the The middle. He's a little more
willing to kind of put it into some questionable spots that
way. We know he's a great athlete. I would say it's
actually someone of my things that I would come away and goes
a little
bit of a - and he's to use this athleticism or
sometimes he is so big, you just cause I'm gonna stand
there and make the damn throw. And you go uh, get out of
the pocket here, by sometime threatened, the line of
scrimmage. You're too fast, you're too good of an athlete
to
just stand there, and I hope he's gonna come open down
the middle. That's maybe one of the negatives, but still more times
than not, even on those plays, he stands in. You go, although
look at that laser for a big throw.
So that's where he's really, really special negatives. You
know, again, maybe just holds onto
the first receiver too long and I'm just going to jam it in
there, right? Maybe a little bit of that, maybe
I should have said this about Borough. Anticipation could
probably be a little bit better because, Burrows, graded
anticipating guys, now, that his break yet, let me just
throw a little touch ball her bird. He had a little bit of a,
I want to see him come out of the break and then I'll
throw it in there.
But, I mean, it's Nit picky with the negatives, he's
a phenomenal football player and it's just, you know, it's just
going on an upward trajectory. So, same thing with Joe
Borough, what did you see from his rookie year
to last year? Because
he was 11th last year, going into last year and now he's in
your top 10. Yeah, I mean, really with burrow and Herbert
those are two guys again, that's where I'm trying to
learn from these second-year guys, a little
that
I feel like I got Herbert about close to write last year. Yeah,
and burrow. I think I even said, I think of the time
I think. If he hadn't hurt his knee, probably would have been
right around that area too,
because you like Berto,
coming out of college. I loved her, but I did I did, and
I love the way Borough, played last year before he hurt his
knee, and I mean, there was a lot of circumstances that may
be made things, not look great at times. They weren't his
fault.
The biggest thing to him
is not that there was one area where it's not going to be
anything where I can go, he improved his touch or just to
me, you know, I had to learn a system for the second time
and just became a little bit more,
you know.
I guess consistent with the intermediate and shorter throws
maybe then he was in year one. And I think, again, I think
that's just reps
and playing and seeing the field a little bit better. We
saw all the magical things in the year 1 right. We saw all
the big deep bombs and great throws and wow,
you know, you're one. Yeah, there was
I think some other things on first and second down
completions where you go. I wish you would have made
a better decision or I wish you would have got off this guy.
Not tried to throw it. During 40 miles per hour into this
guy's chest and do a window the size of a keyhole and tried to
go to the
other guy, to me this, that's where he improved and your 12
year to the physical ability was apparent. There's no doubt
about that. But,
you know, that's where
he's got, a, he can really play with the offense and do it
the right way and do that, and make plays when the offense like,
we're,
you know, again, it's just like, hey, the post isn't
really part of this conversation, but he got to it
and made a big play. He's great at that. At, like I said,
the off the schedule stuff, maybe he could be a little bit
better. Like a
burrow or Alla Norma homes were going to talk about here in
a minute. Let It Go. Just Let It Go. He's right lettuces in
which I could get out of the pocket set up and be ready to
throw one of those lasers. We
see some of these guys do with times and that to me, is
something he can expand his game with a, yeah, which
I wonder too because at Oregon, the system was not great for
him, but he played within the system. That's right. And so
maybe he is a guy that needs to
learn to break the rules, right? Little bit more break
the rules and like, you know, you talk about Sounds like
the quarterback who runs, right? And he's of course going to
look to run when things go bad,
you know, this is the opposite, the guy with the great arm,
he's just always like, well he's in a come open. There's
going to be a spot for me to throw it and he just, you can
stay on them too, long and go.
I'm gonna fit in there. I'm gonna fit in there. I'm gonna
fit in there, and that's where he's got to break out of that
a little bit. And I think that's, you know, he's very capable of
doing that third and
touchdown passes last year,
third in interceptions, 15 on the last podcast with Paul. He
said internet and interceptions they don't, they don't matter
as much anymore to you.
At least they're not game changers to me. I mean, of
course, we want to take care of the football and not all are
created equal. Exactly, right. Not are all created equal. How
about his 15 last? Well, his 15, I think go into
the category of a little bit. What I was just discussing,
just trying to jam some balls in sometimes or just because my
arm so great. And then, you know, again there a big play
offense,
kind of just like, the Bangles are.
So I think Time, remember you lose the little to hair or
like,
aggressive that way,
but, you know,
they asked a lot of them just like we're talking about with
all these guys and their offense. They want a great
running football team.
They had a make it happen
with Justin Herbert and the receivers they got there.
And that's to me where, you know, again, he was asked to be
aggressive and oh, it's fourth down. You know, you got to fit
a ball in here and make something
happen.
The defense wasn't all that good. Good. So that lend them
into some games have gone. I got to push the envelope. We
gotta throw the ball out here today. You know it's a little
bit like the Matt Stafford Lions conversation a little
bit. They played a game last year where
that's the way the game was and if he didn't take some chances
and be some be aggressive, they weren't going to win the game
and sometimes I bit them in the ass but
phenomenal Talent smarts
physical ability,
tough strong,
the leadership area. That's what I was going to ask you
about. Yeah just got done talking about Joubert and how
He is at right? How well-respected he is, right?
How confident he is, you don't get that feeling from
the outside. No, I'm with you. Justin hurt ya. What do you
know about it? I finish ability, right? Yeah. I mean,
I'm glad we get here because, like
out of the top four, I think he's the least in this category
and not to say that he doesn't have an effect on his football
team, but he seems more like, he's the Silent Assassin type
where it's just,
he goes about his business. He doesn't say a whole lot, he
leads by example, he shows everybody, hey, I'm really
good. Good and I do everything right and if you know
follow my lead and things will go right.
I think he's that way a little bit but yes, do I feel like
it's maybe the burrow magic or that know, I think he's
a little bit more of a understated guy that way.
But at the very least, he's still one of those guys. Now
that the Chargers walk on the field and go do we get Justin
Herbert? We get we can win today. I don't care who it
is, what it is. Whatever. We can play with anybody because
of the things you said just a minute ago
and that's what the great quarterback.
Well, we got no Run game. So what? Oh, we're playing s*****
defense today. So what, you know, just doesn't matter. 10
will throw lasers all over the field and he'll make it happen
and more times than not. He did. So, the physical ability
is what I'm guessing. Gives him a little bit of an edge over
Joe bird is because some of the intangibles are with Baroque
exactly. The throwing is just.
It's so when you go back
and even just some of the ones where you go, the pockets clean
and he threw and you just go, we'll damn. That guy was barely
open that he got. Get in there
first down 15 yard gain.
It's just it's so much of that
and it's down the field. And it's,
you know, like big-time throws. And of course, with the quick
game stuff, and all that. He's very good to his release isn't
quite as quick as Joe Burrows.
You know, burrow who doesn't have a ton of arm angles has
a few more arm angles and Herbert who doesn't have that? But yes
I think it's that
it's he's got a little maybe advantage in the game changing
throw. Our men
than Joe burrow and that's probably why I gave him the nod
at three only does it under pressure to every one of his
throws is Big Thrills are on fourth down that mean they go
for all the time. Yeah.
So that's part of it to the cool under pressure from fourth
down pressure. He is he's it's well all four of these guys are
cool Under Pressure. But these two young guys, especially
burrow and Herber, the fact that they've shown to be this
cool, this earlier
in their career,
you know, that's a pretty special trait. And
yeah, Herbert's. He's got it all.
There's just there's nothing about him to not like
again, I think we kind of hit on the negatives and all of
that but man it's a superstar that's going to be around for
a long, long time, throws perfect spirals so it's easy to catch
football
and then when you do Blitz them and do all that stuff too, even
though I want to see him scramble and do some more there
he is amazing.
You know, being on the back foot not being able to step
into a throw, somebody hanging on them, still making the throw
that way because of that size and strength, It's pretty damn
still got the arm strength to do it. So this I'm reminded
again the AFC
West is going to be pretty fun to watch. He had Russell Wilson
at seven. Now, with the Denver Broncos, he got Justin Herbert
at 3:00 Derek. Carr was at 11. Derek Carr was an eleven. So we
got torque for to the elect Top Eleven or in the AFC
West, when Tom Brady retires, Derek Carr will be in the top ten,
right? Could have all four quarterbacks in the top.