set of why don't worry i'm directs
how are you i'm i'm blessed with our government to the following year a
pretty much that addresses of those staphylococcus shirts if proof fight so
let's talk about this new flies a bill that's coming up
summer call it a compromise your call it a capitulation
%um why it do you think it's a capitulation in what is so fundamentally
wrong about this whole communities
well the idea that the system of copper might we got a few things began a few
things just fall
five is one of our worst upon a time missus is basically doing a jig he still
happy breaking
but the white house shocked at how it got everything it wanted basically
obvious to you problems one of the one you mentioned
retroactive immunity for telephone companies
or not they follow the law and giving up his private information to the
government
that is a terrible precedent terms would rule of law and one that's generated a
lot of attention we've got like a thousand calls the last couple days in
my office
again cecile copies but i think it even more important hear less about
is the way in which this is going to allow the government to basically
all international communication between american did anybody overseas
even americans overseas
and a giant databank if they want to
this is an amazing intrusion and increase in the american people there
are no
personal quote review of it is no requirement short of anybody's done
anything wrong
sold these two things together make-work justice awful pieces of legislation that
nobody should be voting for specially a democrat
ideas to think senator feingold won what private information when you say is %uh
suck up all this private information with private information about talking
to anytime you you know anybody overseas
or receive any e-mail
anytime
you text message anybody anytime you make a phone call
you you name it just the normal kind of
transactions between
thousand childhood
erica soldier
business associates
relatives
i liked housing things in terms of what
people in general manner
and when it's really
who doesn't understand
%uh so
i think people might be
used when well when you say there's no %uh court
u_s_ all put into a data bank which is really
input into a data bank is the actual email put into a data bank is the is a
recording of the call put into a data bank rock and roll into much detail that
although i can say is that it's a bad are that i don't know whether artwork
and co
%uh territorial h
%uh other
in this we're not just talking here about %uh the fact that somebody made a
call
we're talking here about content as well cocaine that's important for the content
is actually in there
not to see you may have overseas call but that's what you said in that right
now they're not just
but just remember called center
i guess there are five old stuff on the right track communities
%uh it appears to me correctly if i'm wrong that %uh you guys don't know what
you're giving immunity for
so %uh if
but that's only about thirty appt offended centers don't know because they
haven't been
i had the opportunity to be readiness basic to the illegal wireless
wiretapping program ait by seven program i have a money intelligence committee
and %uh also judiciary committee and
%uh but most of those that don't even know that there were two
so that's my question how do you do you guys you guys know this committee as so
you guys know if who they wiretapped because if you don't know who they
wiretapped is in a possible they wiretapped you for example
like it says you know where to but i know they exactly how they go about
doing and i know what
potentially subject to being obtained and %uh
i mean it's perfectly possible but i can't say for sure
%uh lesson six
all right so and celeste did get to the specifics of what's gonna happen in the
senate in the senate senator feingold wishes %uh you have %uh promise to do a
filibuster this bill how is the logistics of economic out %uh
%uh is the second off forests
and you have to be figured they'd be able to muster up forty senators on your
side they will do a forty one senators
details %uh later so i'm not optimistic they were going to have %uh forty one
people stamped on them
very concerned about
a number of democrats are approaching this but
they'll have already started the process of what people normally call filibuster
normally filter just allowed to come up
we sat down
we're gonna make you a few days and yet they actually win a motion to proceed to
the bill sixty votes which happens today so they first have to do that
then we're gonna talk about the bill for a while
number of people want us to just allowed to go through a couple of hours of
debate we said no senator dot nagpal spoken at length and we want to talk
more
also a number of people that one offer amendments in the carter said no it's
blocked that we said no to that
we also they also asked if we could %uh
just what the bill have a final both %uh we stood %ah now we're going to have you
been avec votre petitioned to have to get sixty votes to have a copy of the
final vote cut off from them
florida demand that as well so basically we're talking about making sure that
aldrich amateur today or first thing tomorrow but require that they'll be a
few days the truth
they would be able to stop this filibuster sixty votes but he had a week
in any event but we believe this is important enough to make them go through
that process if that is the nature of the filibustering
so i want to be gay
clear on this is very important so goes to sixty vote that is yet to get through
what is the motion to proceed today and then at a later time this week there's
gonna be another sixty vote they really need to get that to cut off on them in
to cut off debate and then you'll be able to move into the final period where
the final vote excellent in that second vote
if there's going to be a prolonged filibuster type of activity
that's where we would have
prelude of catholic vote reports most appreciate quarters certain amount of
time before you should go to quote rs
vp at that point
if they get cultures and there's a time limit
there is no if they get corporate that takes away your ability to have
unlimited debate
that's the whole purpose of quota so they get sixty votes for me to stop the
liberals
so senator how close using art you are how many centers you think i was not old
enough i'm sorry to report
tonight if there were there when i was getting out there was about as his
if there were a
movement in
in the leadership those
could be done or is it too well i think that would have to purposely could not
come down in favor of this time
suddenly majority leader said that but let's put it in a more difficult
so that helps but you know the store a bunch of people that %uh people it might
feel surprising and will group with all the way
who are saying well i'm not trying to do this because it's %uh compromises at
least improvement that's not true
who is absolute window-dressing
who would surprise insults and i'm not going to get into that they've hold him
open up to the right thing but i think that my fee
alaska specific question whether majority leader's is award against that
wall that's easy enough for the will question is
is housing a vote on cloture and do you know they answered i don't know the
answer to that sorry %uh okay because is not really a political cover sick all
what could we do we put up the dough and i've already guessed the bylaws
centrally important legislation baltimore years
moshe proceed
only a quarter and voting against the bill anything less
helping to build that i will send the final without naming names on the stand
you don't want to single out that
your colleagues %uh
is the overall
do you think what is going on with some of these democrats who might surprise us
what's not stupid
all not all of the mit %uh
wire they find you in ocean of compromise when
and there really is no getting on the other side
the latest chapter in running for cover when the administration tries to
intimidate democrats on national security issues
hit the wall stood embarrassing failure of the democrats %uh seemed concert two
thousand six other than the failure to vote
then the iraq war use of the too real
sad aspect of otherwise pretty good record
%um it's is whether george bush in jordan dick cheney have their way even
though other than unpopular in on their way out it's really incredible is
incredible so uneasy police is a question that everybody's been asking
you know whether it's our %uh
who is %uh the readers of the blogs in satara at the actual bloggers everybody
yeah that's paying attention is asking wire the democrats doing is it you know
i got three possibilities one is craven they think they've we give in to bush
we're gonna win more elections and we don't really care about the balls in the
fourth men in the constitution
waitresses side note about one win more elections
number two is this here to their own shadow andy didn't get the memo that %uh
the republicans are grossly unpopular
throughout the day that the president bush is the most are popular president
industry analysis we couldn't get that number you got a question a couple of
different things about his judgment
the third period there is that they're complicity
that people like %uh rockefeller signed off on some of these abuses and they get
money from a lobbyist so they only want to rock the boat or by actually citizens
first
%uh w minimum political contributions that are really
fear that they really want to cooperate with this
i see more of the first two things you said to have a new political career
and %uh you know calculations about elections to be periodically there many
years i think are grossly affected by money
i think it is less true this would have more into a political here let me ask
you
i know you don't have much time left to do you
impassioned plea
to your colleagues
do they get
as long as they continue
always gonna have to do this ameen at what point do we stop saying oh the
republicans are stronger national security let's do it they say then
that's going to go on for a
years at some point we have to sort of change the nature of the conversation so
that people think that you know what the democrats they can also be strong
innovative and i'm not
super hard to be in her defense today
i would play with a with emily as we're gonna have a new president
going to be a democrat somebody's sensitive these issues we wont have all
this crap common errors
from the administration that i think that's what they're doing
and you know it's not a rational
i think it's wrong i think it's much harder to change something like this
what someplace we should hold it up
you have a sunset for a few months
and what president obama do the right thing out
%uh
but i think that might be what they pelli survival finally etc
and how do we
make this change happen because right now
%uh democrats are in this i don't know if you want to call it a prisons
mentality out at the washington bubble
people are sold at live with the republican or right about everything
and it seems to be en masse obviously senator dodd yourself senator kerrey of
let on some issues senator clinton and senator obama claim to be leaders of the
seemingly done anything %uh in a fight against bush
%uh but
highly change that mentality did you have hope that we're gonna be able to
change it in in the short term of the midterm
i'm hoping that
we have a very good election result in the house miss senate and elect
president obama
and then i think the excuse of all the over
i think that people will realize you're gonna be democrats were not
so i am hopeful
the people no longer be intimidated but i a bore you a great deal
because i thought that was a message of the two thousand six election in the
performance when it comes beer here is a very rack
and civil liberties in the constitution has not been good and i do i really do
regret it
setter russ feingold the civic light on this the one that we actually for us in
the senate
well you're very kind and i enjoyed being on the show thank you