sheryl attkisson who's in the news now she's a reporter at c_b_s_
and uh... she's concerned that
computers both at home and at work have been compromised
sarah what was happening with your computer that may be suspicious
until there are signs of an easel happenings in my home for many months
and that included on the hair and both
my work in my personal computers one example was the computers began turning
themselves on and then back off again during the night d analysis found very
unusual activity buried deep in the computer
can authorize party access to c_b_s_ computer in my home on multiple
occasions
and specifically in december they used sophisticated methods to cover their
tracks meaning they tried to remove the indications of the previous unauthorized
activity
and we're not prepared to talk more about that who is and who did this today
that
the intruder is considered
highly skilled and use very sophisticated methods willing and
authorize party comes at home in american weather
it's a private citizen are journalist and searches through their computers
inserting or removing material for whatever the reason is it's a very
serious and disturbing matter and outrage that anyone would do such a
thing and c_b_s_ news takes on this very seriously
nola will
i don't know her i don't know anything about her background okay
and she's fairly composed in a situation but you have to not contemplate with
what is this woman taking it home
you know which is not
she doesn't just mean you know uh... uh... mention this on uh... c_b_s_ news
for three minutes
and then just walked away from it
this is now her life
she's dealing with what are they survey link i don't know if she has kids but i
mean that the you've gotta be contemplating what are the implications
for my kids
what are the implications for my career would be able to shins
they and my in my going to be a subject of some type of prosecution
i mean that this is weighing on her mind is definitely going to take it
to determine in in
and again inside of her decision making process as she tries to report
and this is what is so damaging about
well look like releasing
designs said
over and over was
deeply agitate
and if you were in cheryl actresses case or in michael a_c_'s case would you be
deeply agitated force of course i hand you know this is not something that you
you can sort of just me well that's just my job but now i'm gonna go about my day
except that they're coming with you
and the rest of this error russia x issue at all rally type is not the place
i would have gone but that's ok elicit which she said that
kansai so there is never in the c_b_s_ gutierrez something related to what i
was working on it
uh... which was what what big stories reworking about the time i was doing
that fast and furious of course saxon green energy the bottles for a fact
stimulus spending stories and then
later on the pink eyes a storyline so they're all not not complimentary to the
administration
you were working on the allies problema so brilliant and held my hand if that's
what i do know what's whichever administration's in office as well and
i'm not saying a partisan but i'm saying that the stuff you were going after
uh... if the information came forth might hurt the au bon administrations
accurate trip
you know i think everyone watch that clip ana however many years ago with
that
missiles like crazy
we don't know how i'm not sure what's presented evidence that means that
that's that's the point that again we we don't let it we don't even know
uh... who that person is right we don't know who was rooting around in their
they could have been
it could be the government of the are rival network image
who knows who could make but the point is is that now we have created an
environment
and indeed in this is not something that's being sort of manufactured in
people's minds
my guy you know again i can't go back to this but because it's so stunning to me
but we had two senators two u_s_ senators who are bending
begging to be able to talk about something that they think the government
is basically just got off the rails
in terms of their forty when it comes this surveillance we have and national
security of the national director of of intelligence
lying in open forum
to a u_s_ senator
wind and when he gets in a chance to amend his uh... response afterwards
line even though we got the question today in advance i mean this is really
problematic this begins the tear at the fabric of our trust in our government
and so that you know uh... we look at a clip like that now that becomes
something that
seems far more plausible
yeah and actresses says she doesn't want it who it is she has a setting that
if anything that's a nice guy
you handle it
in order to do go after somebody you got to have a suspicion that i assume you
have any suspicion you don't have to tell me i don't want to get your lawyers
matt but i assume you have a suspicion well i think i know
but i a m just not prepared to go into that
to talk about more hanoi yet and and the kind of paranoia to the police state
uh... creates
uh... my home was broken into
and it was crazy guy eight peer to be on basalts
store there was nothing
uh... but one day by turn my wife and i was like you know it's interesting is he
breaks in the house you know
uh...
dot right by my computer
and in the police coming tackle it by my computer
he got broken in the house when we were up because he was raving and stuff like
that
and then he said me do it was the way stuff
nothing happened at that's crazy crazy talk
but that's a great images so i think you like them
why did they bring in a mile likewise my house awfully house anywhere near there
that cal program too
in or and why did he go right by the computer no adult disease but not that
saw surrender
but they need it wasn't
you know it's not part of anything precisely
questioning everything
michael's a fiance was killed in iraq in two thousand seven
is due in part so resigned
yes government against the fence contractors
and in your fiance is killed in in iraq
and you start to wonder
and so an on and on it goes
and so
people think
police state and all this
stuff that we're talking about here
that there's no downside we just got extra security
right remedial is a little bit of privacy but never really affects anyone
brazos not true does affect people
assignable yes
there is a price to be paid
and people should also know that this bill sunny day in this aggregates this
is not dissipate you know where we're seeing what we're seeing here with the
obama administration
is basically taking what was road authority
assumed by the bush administration
and um... uh... many you know uh... senators have said they are uh... it's
been said that
these programs have been given the color of mine that they're saying the caller
of law because they're starting to your
there be interpreted in secret by the five accord
we think
uh... that allow them to go beyond
what wasn't dissipated
and what was in the minds of the senators when they pass this bill
and and so when we when we see
how we go from the ministration to administration
where this authority is built upon and it is expanded and it is caught up by
then it becomes normal and it's a new baseline
this is not going to end
unless we put a stop to it i mean this is why this type of reporting is so
important this is why regardless of what you think of snowed in in any way
the information that we have now
from him
become so important in terms of of
of saying to the government you know there are restrictions here and there
are no internal checks and balances
at least in the way that we have always
uh... interpreted which x inbound to should be you know you cannot say well
the n_s_a_ is actually auditing themselves
and so they're making sure that they're not that that's uh... that's not
sufficient in this instance
with this you're saying all
lol those points for so right
i realized wait a minute uh... our offices government into uh... way back
in the day during the bush administration on the same exact night
my car was stolen a different part of town
crossed out
same night
my house my office to totally different places
now that i look back at that go
what was that about
atlantic let me know that and another thing you know and and in many respects
that's what's so disappointing about the obon administration because
uh... during the bush administration
uh... back when i was on air america
nineteen grovel on i would do it show
their it were it was a daily conversation where we gonna get audited
well you know what exactly are well you know well what are they listen to what
not
and frankly we were pretty open book so we don't really get care
the it the idea at that time that we would articulate that
most people like
there's no indication at the bush administration would stop at any given
point
they live this into a war
the idea of them spying on people that day or uh... harassing people that baby
and i didn't appreciate
if you and women it yeah
and so uh...
you know what what is sad is that we had a similar dynamic would be obon the
administration in many respects and and in fact
don siegel and former governor of alabama
now back in jail
picked up the prosecution exactly work all rolled left and we saw this what we
saw this one whistleblowers and then you know uh... thomas drink uh... was uh...
was will
one of the the most of the right is celebrated if you will
uh... most famous whistleblowers uh... n_s_a_ whistleblowers he blew the
whistle on a program called trailblazer which was a huge boondoggle
and he blew the whistle on this because they had a pre-existing uh... program
and he was called thin reed
which was far more targeted
and in his mind far more efficient
he believes that if trailblazer had not been brought in
uh... private nine eleven we may have been able to prevent nine eleven
with trailblazer wasn't outsourced
contracting program that was it basically enriching the uh... these
uh... private companies
they were the especial of uh... investigator for the n_s_a_
vindicated his claims
congress u_n_ testified there now no record was kept but they ended up
closing up program down instill
he was prosecuted under the espionage act
the prosecution's all part of the sound of the obama administration they
destroyed
they destroyed his life and there is
no rational explanation for then going after him but for the fact that the
national security state has become the sort of self licking ice cream cone
where the incentive structure there
the idea that this is all about keeping america say
you have to be incredibly naive to believe that at this point
there are billions and billions and billions of dollars at stake for
corporations
there are millions of dollars at stake
for guys like alexander who uh... will go back and forth between these private
uh... security companies
and the u_s_ government and so you know what you're dealing with is that you're
standing in the way of people making a lot of money tango
i mean we've been talking about it all uh...
the past two weeks basically
dot how booz allen has six billion dollars and as almost all government
contracts
yet mcconnell who used to be the
and director of national vote is for
and those who work for booz allen clapper who's now the director of
national does probe on whitewater sorted lose alan blues album by carlisle
majority interest carlyle group
an ego all those inner circle
it may be the sorority wrote a good article about this
and this new surveillance industrial complex you know how much it uh... it
about industry it is every year
tens of billions of dollars
fifty-six
billion dollars
and we think about that
what wouldn't people do need to maintain fifty six billion