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>>> FLEW ECONOMIC SHOW THE
ECONOMY IS IN GREAT SHAPE.
>> THE ECONOMY IS NOT WORKING
FOR WORKING PEOPLE.
>> THE NUMBERS CONTINUE.
>> THEY TELL YOU THEY ARE NOT
SHARING IN THIS PROSPERITY.
>> OUR COUNTRY IS DOING WELL.
NEVER HAS DONE AS WELL AS IT’S
DOING RIGHT NOW ECONOMICALLY.
>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL."
LIVE WITH THE DECIDERS.
THE DECIDERS WE ARE CALLING THEM
THAT IN PENNSYLVANIA.
THIS COUNTY WENT FOR DONALD
TRUMP IN 2016 AFTER DECADES OF
VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING
TWICE FOR OBAMA.
THAT WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP IN SOME
OF HIS DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS
TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY.
UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THIS
STRONG ECONOMY WITH LOWER THAN
4% UNEMPLOYMENT WOULD MAKE AN
INCUMBENT LIKE TRUMP A BIG
FAVORITE, BUT WE’LL SEE.
JOINING ME NOW, THANK YOU ALL
FOR JOINING US.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
ECONOMY.
ECONOMY. IT DOESN’T RISE EVERYWHERE AT
THE SAME RATE.
YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR CASE.
IT’S SCARY.
IT’S SCARY. HOW MUCH DO YOU OWE?
STUDENT LOANS?
STUDENT LOANS? >> I OWE ABOUT $160,000 IN
STUDENT LOANS.
STUDENT LOANS. I PAY $2100 A MONTH IN STUDENT
LOANS.
LOANS. I’M VERY LUCKY.
I HAVE GREAT PARENTS.
>> WHERE DID YOU GO?
>> THE FASHION INSTITUTE OF
TECHNOLOGY IN NEW YORK CITY.
EXPENSIVE.
EXPENSIVE. ONE OF THE TOP FASHION SCHOOLS
IN THE WORLD.
>> IT’S A GREAT SCHOOL.
>> I HAVE GOOD PARENTS WHO LET
ME LIVE WITH THEM.
>> YOU HAVE TO PAY $2100 A
MONTH.
MONTH. HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT?
>> I WORK THREE JOBS.
A FULL TIME JOB JUST DOING
BILLING WORK AND THEN I WAITRESS
ON THE SIDE AND I ALSO ASSISTANT
COACH SWIMMING.
COACH SWIMMING. >> AND YOU LIVE AT HOME.
>> YEP.
>> YEP. >> THAT’S THE BIG DECISION.
WOW.
WOW. WHAT’S THAT SAY ABOUT WHAT’S
GOING ON?
GOING ON? I WENT TO HOLY CROSS.
IT WAS A GREAT COLLEGE.
IT COST ME $2,000 A YEAR.
MY PARENTS PAID HALF AND IT WAS
A BREEZE TO PAY IT OFF.
>> I HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT WENT
TO KINGS.
TO KINGS. THEY DID GET A LOT OF
SCHOLARSHIPS.
SCHOLARSHIPS. ONE STARTED OFF AT 90,000 A YEAR
AND ONE AT 50.
WE HAVE BEEN VERY LUCKY.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT COURSE YOU
TAKE.
TAKE. COMPUTERS AND ATHLETIC TRAINING.
>> HOW DID YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP.
>> I WAS A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT AND
LIKED THAT HE WAS A BUSINESSMAN.
I WANTED JOB AND ECONOMIC
GROWTH.
GROWTH. WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN
COUNTRY BEFORE WE TAKE CARE OF
OTHERS.
OTHERS. >> HOW IS IT GOING?
>> IT’S GOING GOOD.
THERE ARE BELIEVES GOING UP IN
THE INDUSTRIAL PARK HERE.
THERE IS HELP WANTED SIGNS
EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.
>> DOES ANYONE THINK IT’S
GETTING A LITTLE BETTER? SHOW OF
HANDS IT’S GETTING A LITTLE
BETTER.
BETTER. SHOW OF HANDS IT’S NOT.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE,
NATIONALLY IT’S INCREDIBLY LOW.
A LOT OF THE JOBS DON’T PAY
MUCH.
MUCH. WHAT DID YOU THINK.
DID ANYBODY BENEFIT FROM THE TAX
CUT?
CUT? HOW MANY BENEFITTED FROM THE TAX
CUT?
CUT? THAT’S NOT MUCH.
WHO DID.
WHO DID. YOU DID?
YOU DID? WHY DID YOU LIKE THE TAX CUT?
>> I HAD SEEN THE RESULTS OF THE
TAX CUT IN THE EMPLOYER WHERE I
WORK.
WORK. THEY INVESTED MORE IN THE
BUILDING.
BUILDING. WE GOT THE MOST SUBSTANTIAL
RAISE THAT WE EVER GOT.
>> YOU ARE A TEAMSTER?
>> YES.
>> YES. >> JAMES HOFFA DELIVERED FOR
YOU.
YOU. >> NO, I WAS A CHIEF NEGOTIATOR
MYSELF.
MYSELF. >> HOW CAN YOU BE A UNION GUY
AND A REPUBLICAN?
I’M CURIOUS.
I’M CURIOUS. >> THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS MORE
ALIGNED WITH MY PERSONAL MORAL
VALUES BEING PRO LIFE AND
WANTING TO HAVE PERSONAL
FREEDOMS FOR MANY THINGS.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION BECAUSE I SEE
THE IMPACT WHEN THE LABOR MARKET
IS INUNDATED WITH WORKERS
WORKING UNDER THE TABLE.
IT LOWERS THE WAGES FOR THE
UNION WORKERS AND FOR THE OTHER
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THERE IS A READY UNDERGROUND
LABOR MARKET IN MANY BUILDING
TRADES.
TRADES. I HAD MANY FELLOW UNION MEMBERS
COME UP TO ME AND SAY IT’S
HURTING US VERY BAD.
>> HOW DO YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY
WITH THE UBER AND LYFT?
>> AROUND HERE THERE IS NOT A
LOT OF TAXI TRAVEL, BUT I KNOW
THAT PEOPLE USE THEM A LOT WHEN
THEY ARE AT THE BARS OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> IT’S HUGE WITH KIDS.
>> IT’S GOING HURT TAXI DRIVERS.
>> WHAT ARE ABOUT THE GUYS WHO
OWN THE MEDALLION.
>> YOU SPOKE ABOUT FLEEDREEDOM,
I SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES
ARMY FOR 30 YEARS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IT WAS ALL ABOUT FREEDOM.
I CAME HOME AND REALIZED MY
COMMUNITY WAS NOT FREE.
WE HAD MORE PEOPLE IN MY
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY. I LIVED IN MONROE COUNTY IN THE
POCONOS.
POCONOS. WE HAD MORE PEOPLE GOING OUT OF
MONROE INTO NEW YORK FOR JOBS
BECAUSE OF COST OF LIVING HERE
NOT BECAUSE OF COST OF LIVING,
BUT BECAUSE OF THE MINIMUM WAGE.
NOT SUSTAINABLE HERE OR IN
PENNSYLVANIA.
PENNSYLVANIA. 7.25 AN HOUR IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
PEOPLE WORK HARD TO BUILD THEIR
HOMES AND THEY CANNOT ENJOY IT
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE
OF MONROE COUNTY OR OUTSIDE OF
MY AREA.
MY AREA. >> WHY DO THEY LIVE IN MONROE
COUNTY AND NOT NEW YORK CITY.
>> BECAUSE THEY CAN’T AFFORD IT.
>> THE HIGH WAGES THEY ARE
PAYING IN NEW YORK CITY
CONTRIBUTE TO THE LIFESTYLE AND
COST OF LIVING IN THE CITIES.
THAT’S WHY PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF
THE CITIES.
THE CITIES. >> WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPMENT. >> THERE IS JOBS IN MY AREA, BUT
IT’S MINIMUM WAGE JOBS.
WE ARE BECOMING THE WATER PARK
CITY.
CITY. >> PEOPLE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM
MINIMUM WAGE JOBS.
THEY NEED TO FIND OTHER SKILLS.
THEY NEED TO TAKE --
>> I WANT TO GET THIS, SIR.
>> WE CAN’T GUARANTEE PEOPLE
THEIR WAGES.
THEIR WAGES. YOU HAVE TO EARN IT.
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE
MINIMUM WAGE?
MINIMUM WAGE? >> THE LAST TIME THEY RAISED THE
MINIMUM WAGE WAS 20 YEARS AGO.
42%.
42%. >> I WON’T ARGUE THAT.
THAT’S WHY I TOOK A JOB IN A
FACTORY AS A UNION MEMBER.
>> DON’T BE A HYPOCRITE!
COME ON!
COME ON! >> YOU NEED TO EARN MORE MONEY
BY EARNING MORE SKILLS.
>> LET THIS GENTLEMAN SPEAK,
PLEASE.
PLEASE. >> FIRST AND FOREMOST, I’M NOT
RED OR BLUE, I’M RED, WHITE, AND
BLUE.
BLUE. IF THAT’S WHAT I BOILS DOWN TO,
I’M A DISABLED COMBAT VICTORY
AND A UNION MEMBER AND UNION
STEWARD.
STEWARD. AND I WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
I DID NOT VOTE IN THE LAST
ELECTION BECAUSE NEITHER PARTY
HAD THE BEST INTEREST FOR ME,
THE AMERICAN CITIZEN.
WE STILL WANT TO DO ALL THIS
COAL AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT
IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION. LET’S TALK ABOUT THE ROADS AND
THE SCHOOLS AND OUR ECONOMY AND
THE VA.
THE VA. THE VA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE
CARE OF US.
OUR UNIONS --
>> THERE WAS A $2 TRILLION
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL TALKED ABOUT
TWO WEEKS AGO.
IT WAS REAL.
PELOSI WANTS TO GET TRUMP OUT
THERE, BASICALLY.
THERE, BASICALLY. SHE SAT DOWN WITH HIM AND THEY
SAID HOW ABOUT 2 TRILLION
DOLLARS.
DOLLARS. THE REPUBLICANS MET AND DECIDED
TO DO NOTHING.
SQUAT.
SQUAT. TOM PEREZ, WILL YOU STAND UP.
WHAT ARE THE DEMOCRATS GOING TO
DO IF THEY GET BACK IN THERE?
MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE IN WORK AND
SECURITY AND I DROVE HERE LAST
NIGHT FROM NEW YORK.
THERE IS A FEW BUMPS.
IT’S REAL.
IT’S REAL. YOUR THOUGHTS?
YOUR THOUGHTS? >> LISTEN, CHRIS.
I HAVE BEEN LISTENING AND I WANT
TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR
HONESTY.
HONESTY. I CAME HERE AND UNFORTUNATELY
THE RNC CHAIR DIDN’T EVEN THOUGH
SHE WAS INVITED BECAUSE IT’S
IMPORTANT TO LISTEN AND LEARN.
WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT I’M
HEARING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A
CONVERSATION ABOUT ECONOMIC
SECURITY AND THE DIGNITY OF
WORK.
WORK. FOR DEMOCRATS, THE DIGNITY OF
WORK MEANS YOU ONLY WORK ONE
JOB, NOT THREE JOBS!
THE DIGNITY OF WORK, CHRIS, IT
MEANS THAT YOU HAVE HEALTH CARE.
IN THE LAST WEEK, IF YOU WANT TO
KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE YOUR
BACK.
BACK. IN THE LAST WEEK, INCLUDING
TODAY, THERE HAVE BEEN A TOTAL
OF EIGHT BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN
PASSED OR WILL BE PASSED IN THE
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES TO MAKE SURE
THAT IF YOU HAVE A PREEXISTING
CONDITION, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR
HEALTH CARE AND LOWER --
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>> PLEASE COME BACK FOR MORE
ABOUT EQUAL TIME.
THIS IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE HERE
AND THE BIG SHOTS.