FOR MORE WE'RE JOINED BY SENIOR BLACK CORRESPONDENT AND HOST OF
THE UPCOMING "NIGHTLY SHOW WITH LARRY WILLMORE."
MR. LARRY WILLMORE. NICE TO SEE YOU.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE. I'M EXCITED ABOUT "THE NIGHTLY SHOW."
>> THANK YOU.
>> Jon: I'M EXCITED. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
>> "THE NIGHTLY SHOW," WHEN DOES THAT START?
>> Jon: I BELIEVE ACTUALLY JANUARY 19TH.
>> OH YES.
MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY.
I HAVE A JOB.
>> Jon: LARRY, IF I MAY.
THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK THAT NONE OF THESE EVENTS OF THE PAST FEW
WEEKS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ABOUT RACE.
>> THE REAL EPIDEMIC IS YOUNG BLACK MEN KILLING OTHER YOUNG
BLACK MEN.
>> 93% OF BLACKS ARE SHOT BY OTHER BLACKS. THEY'RE KILLING
EACH OTHER THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. WHEN DO YOU HEAR
THEM TALK ABOUT, HOW DO WE REDUCE THE CRIME.
>> Jon: WELL, YOU KNOW, LARRY, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE?
>>OH I DON'T KNOW, JON. I WOULD SAY THEY SHOULD PROBABLY
GO [BEEP] THEMSELVES. MAYBE?
>> Jon: I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> WELL NO, JON.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> Jon: ALRIGHT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, CAN WE QUIT CALLING IT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME.
IT'S JUST CRIME, OKAY.
I MEAN, BLACK ON BLACK JUST MAKES IT SOUND LIKE
A CATEGORY ON RED TUBE. THAT'S A PORN SITE, JON.
>> Jon: OH, THAT'S A -- OH YES, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S A --
>> YOU HAVE IT BOOKMARKED.
Jon: DO I HAVE IT BOOKMARKED?
I ONLY BOOKMARK IT SO I CAN PICK UP WHERE I LEFT OFF IN THE
STORY.
>> WHERE DID YOU LEAVE OFF?
Jon: THEY WERE [BEEP].
[LAUGHING] SO, SPOILER ALERT.
I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW IT ENDS BUT GET A TOWEL.
YOU DON'T THINK A CONVERSATION ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME
SHOULD BE HAPPENING NOW?
>> IT IS, JON.
BUT IT'S A BLACK ON BLACK CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HEARING IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT
HAPPENING.
GO TO ANY BLACK CHURCH ON A SUNDAY.
>> Jon: WELL THAT'S -- SEE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT
CONVERSATION. COULD I LISTEN TO IT SOME TIME?
>> SURE WHICH BLACK CHURCH DO YOU ATTEND, BROTHER?
>> Jon: I TWO GO TO THE FIRST TEMPLE BAPTIST BLACK CHURCH.
>> THAT'S OKAY, JON.
I DON'T GO EITHER.
>> Jon: OH, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> BUT IT'S NOT LIKE BLACK CRIMINALS ARE THE ONLY THING
KILLING BLACK PEOPLE.
DIABETES, STROKE AND HEART DISEASE ARE KICKING
BLACK ON BLACK CRIME'S ASS. OKAY?
BUT NOBODY IS SAYING WE NEED TO GET GET RID OF THOSE BEFORE
WE CAN TALK ABOUT RACISM.
>> Jon: WELL SO, DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE USING THIS ARGUMENT
AS A WAY TO INVALIDATE THE RIGHTEOUS NATURE OF ANY OF THE
PROTESTS.
>> WELL, JON. PEOPLE ARE USING A LOT OF ARGUMENTS TO INVALIDATE
THE PROTESTS.
>> THE PROTESTERS WHO DID NOT LOOT OR BURN OR ASSAULT THE
POLICE BUT WHO REMAINED IN THE FRAY ARE GUILTY OF AIDING
AND ABETTING THOSE WHO DID BY PROVIDING THEM COVER AND
SUPPORT. IT SET BACK RACE RELATIONS IN AMERICA YEARS.
THE VIOLENT PROTESTS ACTUALLY CREATED MORE
BIAS AGAINST BLACKS.
[BOOING] >> [BEEP]
MORE BIAS AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE.
OH, NO BLACK PEOPLE, WE WERE SO CLOSE.
WHAT DID YOU DO? STUPID BLACK PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A DREAM, JON.
THAT ONE DAY THE ACTIONS OF A FEW [BLEEP] WHITE PEOPLE WILL BE
SEEN AS DISCREDITING THEIR ENTIRE RACE.
>> Jon: WELL, EVERYONE KEEPS MAKING EXCUSES.
BE IT CRIME OR OTHER ISSUES.
FOR WHY WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT RACISM.
OR WHY IT'S NOT RACISM.
HOW DO WE END RACISM?
>> JON, WE WON'T END IT.
THE WORLD HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS.
BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER. TRIBE AGAINST TRIBE.
IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO GO AWAY. IT'S PART OF OUR DNA.
WE'RE RACEAHOLICS, JON.
WE WILL ALWAYS BE IN RECOVERY .
THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS TO MANAGE IT.
>> Jon: SO, I GUESS WE'RE NEVER ACTUALLY GOING TO GET THAT
30-DAY CHIP ARE WE?
>> 30 DAY CHIP? WE CAN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A
PROBLEM. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT EVEN AT THE MEETING YET.
WE'RE STILL LYING IN A POOL OF OUR OWN VOMIT GOING, I'M FINE,
I'M FINE. JUST GOTTA -- I'LL BE OKAY.
>> Jon: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LARRY. LARRY WILMORE, EVERYBODY.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.