>> I do have a theory actually, about what might have scared them off.
I think it might have been Ana's fiery response to Eric Bolling earlier today, I think that
might have scared a few people away.
>> Well that experience actually happened yesterday, a nd so it kind of goes to the
point that Cenk was making about the chaos yesterday.
There was some agitators here, Bolling happened to be one of them.
And he was doing the typical right wing media trick of interviewing rally goers, to take
them out of context mash them up into a video, and make them seem like they don't know what
they're fighting for or talking about.
And so at that point I jumped in because I was like, all right, if you want to ask them
questions, you can ask me questions.
And you know, media has covered it, you guys are talking about on the show today.
He had no interest in hearing someone answer his questions.
>> I am actually.
>> Kept taking the mic away for me kept interrupting, mm-hm.
>> I wanna show people a section or two of this video.
So we're gonna play a short section, and then hopefully we can get a response from you about
a little bit more about what was going on.
>> He keeps taking the mic away because he knows I have answers.
>> He keeps taking the mic away because he knows, I know the answers to these questions.
>> socialism.
Just give me one.
>> Norway, Sweden, Venezuela hold on for a second.
They're a social democracy.
Let me be clear about one thing, Venezuela is an interesting case that you guys never
give the details about.
Venezuela was a state that put all of its resources, all of its energy, everything,
all of its eggs in that basket.
Oil prices go down, Venezuela is in trouble.
>> Socialism fails.
>> That is not socialism they stopped manufacturing, they stopped exporting.
>> Okay, and now that seem like a really good explanation of the situation.
Has he switched over to our side?
>> Yeah, I mean he's not interested in like a good faith argument or debate, he's just
coming here to try and smear people.
I'm actually shocked that I was able to get any point across, because, you know, we were
in the middle of a lot of chaos.
And so I couldn't even hear myself speaking.
And I was really worried that we would be taken out of context.
And luckily we have our own film crew here, we had our own video.
So The Blaze is planning on doing some coverage on that tonight, but luckily we have the context
out there for everyone to see.
>> Yeah I was amused [be]cause he's like name one socialist country that's worked.
Like Norway, he's like fine another one, Sweden, fine another one, Denmark and so by the way,
they actually considers themselves some form of socialism, right?
But he wasn't saying fine, he was like, no it doesn't count, doesn't count.
>> Right.
>> Like wait, I mean you can say it doesn't count, but it does.
They're a form of socialism in those countries, and by the way, we have a form of socialism
here.
It's called social security, medicare, cops, firefighters, military, etc and so what I
explain that -- again, they're not looking for an answer.
They're not looking for the correct answer.
They were hoping that people didn't have the answer, and when they did, they're like, well
I was giving you the mic so you wouldn't answer it.
If you are, I'm taking the mic away.
>> So, I'm actually I'm curious about that because the the brand, the stick of these
sorts of people of which I would say him, and Crowder, and Ben Shapiro is always that
they like to debate, okay.
The idea of debate, is that someone could conceivably change their mind either one of
the people in the debate or someone watching it, I've noticed that nobody ever does change
their minds.
So when you engage in that sort of conversation with them, understand that Eric Bowling is
never gonna be like, you know what?
Damn my paycheck, I'm a progressive now.
What are you hoping to achieve in that?
>> Well okay, good question John.
So earlier today, I went on News Max, which is a very conservative Organization and they're
run by one of Donald Trump's best friends.
But believe it or not, they're actually a little bit more sane than the rest.
I know it's a really low bar, okay, but we did have a normal rational conversation.
And you know what the host told me afterwards?
He said thank God you guys didn't pick Bernie last time, because he would've beat Trump.
So that is a really conservative host saying that, and in that conversation overall when
we were on air, I kept going to things like, your voters are against corruption?
And they're like well, that's true, right?
And you guys don't want Soros's money, right?
Well, we don't want Koch brothers running out of Tucker Carlson doesn't want Koch brothers
money in it.
Well, that's true, so why don't we get all the money out?
Right, and so and by the way, there is some surprising agreement these days, not in the
old days, but these days, a lot of them do not want to go to war.
So they're growing to realize that the money that the Republican politicians are getting,
is in fact, corrupting them and they are, in fact, corrupt.
And they're beginning to realize that wars haven't worked out for us.
Next thing you know they'll think, hey, wait a minute, why don't I have higher wages.
And they might soon realize we're actually fighting, not just for us, but for all of
us, including them >> Yeah, I just wanted to add one other thing.
Look for me it's not about Eric Bolling, right Eric Bolling is a lost cause and I recognize
that, but it is about planting a seed when it comes to people who watch his show.
So if you put the full context of that whole interaction out there, and some of his viewers
see it, I mean, not all of them are gonna actually listen to an argument and consider
it.
But some of them might, and even if they don't buy into it immediately, it's still plants
the seed.
And I think--What I try to think about now is that, New York Times story about a young
man who became radicalized by the right-wing on YouTube.
And how he became de radicalized by shows like ours and Sam cedars.
And so, I just think that, there are people out there who are not lost causes and we need
to make good arguments, reasonable arguments that are based in evidence, in fact, and eventually,
I think some people are going to be persuaded by.
>> One last quick thing on that, to Anna's point, when he says name one socialist country
and we say Norway, some percentage of his viewers might go, yeah, right.
No way, I'm sure Bolling is right, Norway doesn't count, and then they google Norway
and they're like, my God, it is socialist.
Wait a minute, it sounds pretty good.
They get childcare, and healthcare, and it's not what Bolling, and Blaze, and Fox News
ascribe it to be.
It's not communism, they're talking largely about communism.
Eric Bolling kept saying, but wait, in Norway they let me make money.
>> Socialist countries, he's talking about communism, where no one is allowed to have
any job they want and they're not allowed to set up businesses.
He's just flat out wrong about the definition of those two different things.