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MARIA: WELCOME BACK, SPECIAL
COUNCIL JOHN DURHAM RELEASED
POTENTIALLY DAMMING EVIDENCE
AGAINST FORMER HILLARY CLINTON
LAWYER MICHAEL SUSSMAN.
THIS WEEK DURHAM FILED TO
RELEASE MESSAGE FROM SUSSMAN TO
THE FBI JAMES BAKER.
SUSSMAN IS PLANNING A MEETING TO
DISCUSS REPORTED LINKS BETWEEN
TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND RUSSIA
MONTHS BEFORE THE 2016 ELECTION.
SUSSMAN WRITES TO BAKER, I’M
COMING ON MY OWN, NOT ON BEHALF
OF A CLIENT OR MY COMPANY.
WANT TO HELP THE BUREAU.
DURHAM CALLING THE TEXT, QUOTE,
A LIE IN WRITING, SUSSMAN IS SET
TO GO ON TRIAL OVER ACCUSATIONS
HE LIED TO THE FBI.
JAMES FREEMAN AND I WROTE ABOUT
THIS IN OUR BOOK PUBLISHED LAST
YEAR CALLED THE COST, TRUMP,
CHINA AND AMERICAN REVIVAL.
FRAMES FREEMAN, YOUR THOUGHTS ON
NOW DURHAM PUSHING THE TEXT
MESSAGE INTO THE CONVERSATION
WHICH HAS GOT MICHAEL SUSSMAN
PRETTY MUCH LYING THAT HE IS NOT
OR APPARENTLY REPORTEDLY LYING
THAT HE IS NOT REPRESENTING THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN WHEN HE BRINGS
THAT TRUMP DOSSIER TO BAKER.
JAMES: BY THE WAY, THANKS FOR
WRITING THAT BOOK WITH ME, IT
LOOKS BETTER WITH ME OVER TIME.
BUT, YEAH, MICHAEL SUSSMANM
DESERVE IT IS PRESUMPTION OF
INNOCENCE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
THIS IS DAMMING, THIS IS DIRECT
WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF HIM MAKING
-- IT’S NOT A LONG MESSAGE BUT
IT’S THE KEY FACT OR NONFACT
WHICH HE’S ASSERTING THAT HE
WASN’T WORKING FOR ANYONE SO
HE’S PRESENTING HIMSELF AS JUST
A CONCERN CITIZEN WHO HAS COME
UP ON SOME INFORMATION AND WANTS
TO SHARE IT AND AS THE -- AS THE
DURHAM FILINGS ALLEGE, IN FACT,
HE WAS OVERSEEING A CONCERTED
EFFORT TO EXPLOIT NONPUBLIC
AND/OR PROPRIETARY TRAFFIC DATA
TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A CLAIM, A
MISLEADING CLAIM THAT THERE WAS
THIS TRUMP-RUSSIA TIE AND SO I
THINK, YOU KNOW, I DIDN’T GO THE
LAW SCHOOL BUT I THINK ONE OF
THE STANDARD TACTICS IS TEACHING
PEOPLE HOW TO DEFEND THEMSELVES
IN VARIOUS WAYS.
I DIDN’T BORROW MY NEIGHBOR’S
DISH BUT IF I DID BORROW IT I
DIDN’T BREAK IT BUT IF I BROKE
IT IT DIDN’T MATTER BECAUSE IT
HAD LOTS OF CRACKS IN IT.
I THINK HE’S RAPIDLY GETTING
DOWN TO JUST THE MATERIALITY
ISSUE.
WOULD THIS LIE EFFECT THE CASE
AND IT’S HARD TO SEE HOW IT
WOULDN’T OR THE ALLEGED LIE.
HOW IS THIS NOT KEY TO THE CASE
WHEN SOMEONE SAYS I’M JUST A
CONCERNED CITIZEN VERSUS
ADMITTING THEY ARE A RIVAL
CAMPAIGN PROVIDING DIRT ON THE
OTHER CAMPAIGN.
MARIA: YEAH.
I MEAN, BRANDON, JUSTICE REALLY
TAKES A LONG TIME TO PLAY OUT.
WE’VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME THAT
THE WHOLE TRUMP COLLUSION
NARRATIVE WAS A MADE-UP STORY AT
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
WE’VE KNOWN THIS FOR YEARS AFTER
SEEING JOHN BRENNAN’S
HANDWRITTEN NOTES THAT PRETTY
MUCH TOLD THE STORY THAT THE
RUSSIANS ARE AWARE THAT HILLARY
IS COMING UP WITH A STORY TO TIE
TRUMP TO RUSSIA AND HERE WE ARE
IN 2022 AND WE STILL HAVE ONLY
SEEN SLAPS ON THE WRIST FOR SOME
OF THE PERPETRATORS INVOLVED.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> THIS IS A DAMMING CHARGE AND
WHAT SHOULD WORRY US THE COURT
OF PUBLIC OPINION HERE, EVEN THE
NEW YORK TIMES IS REPORTING ON
THIS SAYING IT’S A DAMMING
CHARGE AND FURTHER INVITING
SCRUTINY.
IT’S LOSING WAR IN PUBLIC
OPINION, BIG TROUBLE.
MARIA: IT’S FUNNY THAT YOU
MENTION THE NEW YORK TIMES,
JAMES THEY GOT A PULITZER PRIZE
FOR REPORTING ON RUSSIA.
A WHOLE CHARACTER IN THE BOOK
ABOUT THE MEDIA.
DO YOU THINK WE WILL FINALLY SEE
THE MIA CULPA FROM THE NEW YORK
TIMES AND THE WASHINGTON POST OR
NOT SO FAST? JAMES: I THINK THEY WILL ADMIT
JAMES: I THINK THEY WILL ADMIT
SO MUCH OF WHAT WAS WRONG.
I DON’T THINK WE WILL GET A BIG
MIA CULPA.
IT IS NICE TO BE VINDICATED AND
I THINK FOR THE COUNTRY IT’S
ALSO IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON
HILLARY CLINTON.
THIS IS HER CAMPAIGN AND REALLY
THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
SURPRISING AS WE WATCH ALL OF
THOSE CLINTON ENRICHMENT SCHEMES
ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
I THINK THEY WERE KIND OF THE
MODEL FOR HOW THE HUNTER BIDEN
ENRICHMENT SCHEMES WORK BUT ON A
MUCH BIGGER SCALE AND HAVING
WITNESSED THAT, I THINK WE