Aongresswoman, thank YOYO
tonight,t,e will be watching.
D forore of a preview of
night's events, I 'M joined by
Carol clinini an investigative
reporterert the Washington post.t.
And jail I iaaw P pfessor at
orge mason universitit and
formererssociate counsel to
presidenengeorge W. Bush.h.
Welcome to B bh of you.
Carol, what are you going T tbe
watchingngor tonightht especiaiay
when it cocos to the witnesses?
Theitnesses we know will
testify are two P pple who were
really roooong for Donald
Trump's presidency and servrv it
from the S srt.
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house E cause they hoped T T
accomplish S se of the
nservative agenda items that
he had been pushing a a
promising G his supporterer
that includes deputydvisor.
And an aide named S sah
Matthews.
Both of them wiwi testify that
despite their D dire T see
donaldldrump succeed and serveve
his administrationnthe way he
enabled attack and did not
call O O his S sporters whehe the
vivi president'ss life and othth
lawmakers S ves were in danger
was the final S saw for them.
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nono endure.
And both of thth resigned within
urs of those events.
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We have known that about both of
themem
butt what's impopoant about their
testimony is once again the
committee isocusing on what
Republicans S ve to say and what
trumps own fororr cheerleaderer
feel about what T ppened that
day.
Judydy what T the signinicance
of H hring from these
individuals?
We have been hearing from
Republicans, people innhe white
hohoe working for presidenen
trump.
We will see that again tonight.
Y does that matter?
>> The main N INT here is that
whatathe president D D, his
havior and actions thaha day
contributed to what happened a a
the capital as were know from his
speech on the elelpse.
His inacacon for 180 sevev
minutes as he sattatching what
was happening ononelevision as
his aides came to hihi and said,
people are going tooie.
You haha to say something.
In his decision N not act is at
the heart ofhat happened on
that day.
And that I iintolerable for many
repupuicans.
They quit they itappened.
Was intolerableleor a number
of members in thee cababet.
Dt should be intolererle for
alllepublicans in theouse who
id itas intolerable and saiai
it was unanaeptable.
D since then backed off andd
backpepeled.
Juju: You were telling ushat
you are lookokg to see tonight
as what youall the split
reen where on the oneneand, we
wiwiee W wt T T former
prprident was doing at ththvery
same moment thatiolence was
unfolding at the capitit.
>>>> A a I think the cononesswoman
hihis at that.
There will be timestamps W WRE
this I when the capital was
breached.
Listen as one voioi you can hear
E chief sigigd B bging for
reinfofoements, reporting there
was a riototn old incumbent
during a riot.
At the same timemen the others
that split screen, , E P psident
watching T T television,
watching the live coverage from
various newscaststs and being I I
not gleeful, C cse to gleefulul
that his suppopoers had done it
Ackley what he asksk them to do.
U will see timestampshere
people are R ring Donald Trump
-- a specififiindividual is
reading the Ronald comp --
donaldrump'sext where he
pupu the target on vice
president pence and saysse did
not T ve theourage.
That ISS at 2:34 P.M. As mememy
serves..
Pepele are running throughghhe
hallwaysys
peopleleere chanting about
hanging Mike P pce.
You wiwi see on T T other side
Donald Trump describing what H H
wawaed to happen.
And then we will see the vieieof
what wasasrought.
Judy:: Just for purprpes of
contntst and comparison, yououre
a studenenof history.
They have esseseially laid-back
while americaca democracy was
under assault.t.
>> I Ian't.
As to the contrary, the heart of
ourrnion has been challenging.
This is what it takes T respond
totohat.
At times, presisints took
exexeme actions a a Donald Trump
did the office it.
No amount of excxcing thahaay
it'a small protest.
Nobody can telll us that we
didn't T E what we saw on
television and T T president
watchehelive in action.
And whwh the white house counsns
talked aboutut,he president
dodon't want to do ananhing.
Things the viceceresident
dederves the chance -- its
unimaginablelehat any president
uld say thth about their vice
president.
It is hard to imagine.
Judy: Y Y reminded us today T tt
when youounterviewed former
president trumpmpor your book
and you ask him what he wanted
to happen that day,y,hat he said
to you.
>> For a book, I alone can fixix
it, my colleague and I S S down
withthhe president for H hrs in
mar-r-lago about two monons
after thth attack on the capitata
none of my numumr one goals was
to find out W wt did he want.
From televisioio traffic on N E
radio, I iis clearhat those
dividualsanted and that was
either to kill M meence, kyl
ncy pelosos the speaker off the
house, kidnap them.
And inin othth ways, by violelee,
to stop the certificicion of the
proper election of joeoe Biden and
to blolo the peaceful trarafer
of powow.
Judy: Still startlingngust to
ththk of it.
We thank you both H D we
appreciate I I
please tune into pbs tonight for
our special coverara of the
hohoe select committee public
hearing on jananry 6.
Thatats at it P.M. Easasrn.