Shankar Mahadevan: Sadhguru ji, pranam. You know, we’ve been composing music for the last...
23 years now, as Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy.
One thing that’s fascinated me is always been the concept of 3.
I see the association of number 3 with various aspects
like neutron-proton-electron, Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh,
and, you know, we are also 3 of us composing music.
So, what is the relevance of 3? What is the importance of 3, and what is the effect of 3?
Sadhguru: Namaskaram to the trimurtis of Shankar,
Ehsaan, Loy. (Laughs)
Well, there are trimurtis – trinetra, trishula,
trikala… all these things are evolution of ideas
from the fundamental experience of human life.
All human experience is rooted in these 3 things.
Our memory belongs to the past which is called as the bhuta-kala,
our experience always is vartamana, or the present,
and our imaginations and aspirations are always of the future,
which is bhavishya.
So essentially, human experience of life
happens between memory, experience and imagination.
Based on this, many aspects which spring from these 3 experiences
were crystallized in our culture as tri:
trinetra, trikala, trishula and all of… (Laughs)
and you guys, trimurtis.
So, this fundamental needs to be understood, that...
all these 3 dimensions exist in vartamaan.
All this past and future actually exist now,
because it’s only now that you can remember, it is only now that you can imagine.
There's a whole lot of teaching going around in the world, particularly in United States,
but I think it has also hit the western coast of India.
People are going about talking, “Be in the moment, be in the moment.”
They are worshippers of the present.
But I do not understand why somebody is telling you to be in the moment,
because you cannot be anywhere else. (Laughs) Where else can you be?
Can somebody show me where else they can be, other than be in the moment?
So, we are anyway rooted in vartamaan, but our memories are of the past,
our imaginations and aspirations are of the future.
So essentially, people who worship only today, people who worship only the present,
they're telling you, “Just be in the moment, do not think about the past, do not think about the future.”
Well, it took millions of years to bring this level of cerebral capability
for this brain to blossom like this, to be able to have a vivid sense of memory,
and a fantastic sense of imagination – it took millions of years of evolutionary work.
But today somebody is telling you, let’s junk all that and be like an earthworm.
I have nothing against earthworm, it’s a very ecofriendly creature. (Laughs)
But all this evolutionary work that has happened upon us,
to bring us to this level of cerebral capability,
should not be surrendered to some simple philosophy.
The reason why people are saying this is, because the only 2 fundamentals of people’s misery is just this:
people can suffer what happened 10 years ago,
people can suffer what may happen day after tomorrow already.
This means they're not suffering life, they're suffering their memory and their imagination,
2 most fantastic faculties that a human being has.
It is these 2 faculties of vivid sense of memory and a fantastic sense of imagination
which sets us apart from every other creature.
This they want to surrender because they don’t know how to handle their thought and emotion.
If you could joyfully remember, and with great exuberance and ecstasy imagine things,
why would you want to surrender that?
It is just that your memories and your imaginations
have become compulsive and they're creating a world of misery.
So, people are talking about how to forget the past, how to not think about the future.
This is not the way to conduct human life, it’s very important all these trikalas are there,
the 3 dimensions, the trishulas are there, and trinetras are there,
these are the 3 dimensions of seeing life and experiencing life is there, and we are very glad
the trimurtis of Shankar, Ehsaan and Loy are there.
Please make some wonderful music (Laughs)
and let’s celebrate the trimurtis.