WE'RE BACK HERE WITH BILL O'REILLY.
SO BEFORE WE WENT ON THE BREAK, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS
CALL, WE NEED AN ALL-OUT WAR ON THE ISLAMIC STATE.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> IT MEANS CONGRESS SHOULD PASS A DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST
ISLAMIC TERRORIST GROUPS -- AL QUAIDA, I.S.I.S., THERE ARE
FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM.
>> Stephen: ARE WE NOT AT WAR WITH AL QUAIDA AT NOT.
>> WE ARE.
>> Stephen: DOESN'T THE AUTHORIZATION FOR MILITARY FORCE
COVER ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO?
>> YEAH, THE PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT BUT IF YOU
MAKE A DECLARATION OF WAR IT DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS, IT
GIVES AUTHORITIES INSIDE THE UNITED STATES FAR MORE LATITUDE
TO DETAIN AN OMAR MATEEN.
>> Stephen: YOU COULD DETAIN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN --
>> IF YOU'RE AT WAR, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU CAN DETAIN
PEOPLE.
F.D.R. DID IT WITH THE JAPANESE.
I THINK HE MADE A MISTAKE, BUT HE DID IT.
THE WAR DECLARATION TAKES THE PROTECTION OF YOUR AUDIENCE AND
YOU AND ME AWAY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUTS IT INTO THE
MILITARY PRECINCTS.
NUMBER TWO, N.A.T.O. WOULD THEN BE MOBILIZED AND THEY WOULD HAVE
TO JOIN IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THESE JIHADIST GROUPS BY TREATY.
>> Stephen: AFTER 9/11, THIS IS THE LARGEST LOSS OF LIFE IN
AN ATTACK IN THE UNITED STATES AFTER 9/11.
AFTER 9/11, WE WENT TO WAR IN IRAQ.
TREATED IT AS A MILITARY -- >> THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
>> Stephen: WHY IS THIS NOT A MISTAKE?
>> WE WOULDN'T BE AN OCCUPIER HERE.
THIS IS A WAR OF ATTRITION AGAINST A TERROR GROUP.
IT'S THE SAME PHILOSOPHY AS THE NAZIS.
IT'S THE THIRD REICH, IT'S THE SAME.
>> Stephen: HOW DOES THAT STOP A LONE GUNMAN IN THE UNITED
STATES.
>> I TOLD YOU YOU CAN'T STOP THAT.
>> Stephen: WHY WOULD WE THEN DECLARE WAR BASED ON THIS?
(APPLAUSE) >> BECAUSE THEN, RATHER THAN
OUTSOURCING THE FIGHT AGAINST I.S.I.S. TO THE KURDS, N.A.T.O.
WOULD DO IT, AND N.A.T.O. WOULD THEN DESTROY COMMAND AND CONTROL
OF I.S.I.S., ALL RIGHT, AND AL QUAIDA, DESTROY IT.
SO THERE WOULD BE -- RIGHT NOW, GUYS LIKE MATEEN THINKS I.S.I.S.
IS WINNING BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE INTERNET AND I.S.I.S. IS
TELLING THEM THEY'RE WINNING AND CAUSING ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE.
ONCE THE WORLD SEES THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING ANNIHILATED, AND I
MEAN ANNIHILATED, THE WHOLE PROPAGANDA, WE'RE WINNING THE
JIHAD, THE CALIPHATE, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS ESTABLISHED,
VANISHES.
>> Stephen: DOES IT NECESSARILY VANISH?
BECAUSE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, IT IS NEARLY PROVERBIAL NOW THAT
REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO ENEMIES -- DECLARED ENEMIES IN
THE UNITED STATES, THEY'RE GIVEN PRETTY GOOD PRESS THEY'RE
SURVIVING OR THRIVING AND THE STREET IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES DON'T
FIND OUT.
>> TELEVISION IS TELEVISION AND INTERNET IS INTERNET AND THE
PICTURES TELL THE STORY.
AND THEN THE OTHER REASON ABOUT DECLARING WAR IS TO PROTECT THE
REFUGEES, THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF REFUGEES WHO ARE
NOW STORMING INTO EUROPE AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN DROWNING IN
E ME MEDITERRANEAN SEA, ONCE YOU DECLARE WAR AND MOVE IN SERIOUS
N.A.T.O. TROOPS, YOU CAN PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE.
>> Stephen: AND DO YOU HAVE TO HOLD THAT LAND?
>> NO.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOLD THE LAND -- YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO
BRING DEMOCRACY TO SYRIA.
YOU'RE TRYING TO ANNIHILATE AN ENEMY THAT NEEDS TO BE
ANNIHILATED.
>> Stephen: WHO TAKES OVER ONCE THAT'S DONE?
>> YOU WORK WITH WHOEVER YOU FEEL IS TRUSTWORTHY IN THE
COUNTRY BUT WE CANNOT DICTATE HOW THESE COUNTRIES RUN
THEMSELVES PARTICULARLY IN A MUSLIM WORLD BECAUSE THEIR VALUE
SYSTEM IS WAY DIFFERENT FROM OURS.
>> Stephen: WHEN IS THE WAR OVER?
>> WHEN THE LEVEL OF TERRORISM GOES DOWN, THE REFUGEES CAN
RETURN HOME, AND YOU HAVE A BASIC HANDLE ON THE SITUATION.
LOOK, WE KNOW WHAT THE DANGER IS, WE KNOW WHAT THE COST IS,
AND WE KNOW IT'S BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG.
SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR AMERICA TO STEP UP ITS POWER AND TAKE CARE
OF THESE S.O.B.s.
(APPLAUSE) >> Stephen: WE DO HAVE TO GO.
I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN AGREE ON HERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF DONALD TRUMP'S RESPONSE SO FAR?
>> WELL, IT'S A POLITICAL RESPONSE.
>> Stephen: SEEMS FAIRLY SELF-CONGRATULATORY.
>> YES, IT IS.
HE'S A POLITICIAN.
IT SHOULDN'T SHOCK YOU.
>> Stephen: THERE ARE OTHER POLITICIANS WHO WOULD NOT SAY, I
APPRECIATE THE CONGRATS OR I CALLED IT.
THAT'S NOT POLITICAL BEHAVIOR.
THAT'S GRANDSTANDING.
(APPLAUSE) >> HE'S USING THE ISSUE TO BOAST
HIS POPULARITY.
>> Stephen: SO MAKING TERROR A TOOL.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: IS HILLARY CLINTON DOING THE SAME THING.
>> I HOPE TO GET HILLARY ON LATER IN THE WEEK.
>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK SHE'S DOING THE SAME THING?
>> HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE, TRUMP IS BRINGING A ROBUST I'M GOING
TO GET THESE GUYS ATTITUDE TO THE TABLE.
MRS. CLINTON IS BRINGING A MORE NUANCED SITUATION.
TRUMP IS BETTING THAT THE COUNTRY NOW WANTS A REAL
AVENGER.
THAT'S WHAT HE'S BETTING, ALL RIGHT?
MRS. CLINTON, SHE'S VERY TIED INTO THE OBAMA LEGACY RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE SHE NEEDS HIM TO CAMPAIGN.
>> Stephen: SHE MIGHT ALSO BELIEVE IT.
>> IT'S POLITICAL ADVANTAGE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT,
TO TRUMP ON THIS ONE.
HE HAS THE ADVANTAGE ON THIS ONE.
HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT SO HE'S GOING TO USE IT.
>> Stephen: THAT IS TRUE.
THANK YOU.
THAT IS TRUE.
SO LET'S TRY TO AGREE ON SOMETHING, ARE GUNS A PROBLEM
HERE?
>> GUNS ARE A PROBLEM IN THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS AND
TERRORISTS, BUT THEY AFFORD THE POPULATION A LEVEL OF
SELF-PROTECTION, WHICH IS WHY THE FOUNDERS PUT IT INTO THE
CONSTITUTION.
(APPLAUSE) CAN I MAKE ONE MORE POINT?
>> Stephen:.
>> Stephen: BUT WE WON'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE IF YOU DO
THAT.
>> "LEGENDS AND LIES: THE PATRIOTS" IS WHAT I CAME TO TALK
ABOUT.
>> Stephen: I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
>> THE REASON WE BEAT THESE BRITISH OPPRESSORS IS BECAUSE
EVERYBODY HAD A GUN, EVERYBODY!
AND ALL THESE RED COATS WERE RUNNING AROUND AND, BANG!
THAT'S WHAT SELF-PROTECTION BRINGS.
ALL RIGHT?
>> Stephen: I JUST DON'T THINK OUR SITUATION IS COMPARABLE TO
LEXINGTON AND CONCORD.
>> BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND EMOTION TIED
INTO THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
ESSENTIALLY THERE FOR SELF-PROTECTION BY LAW ABIDING
PEOPLE AND IT WON'T BE OVERTURNED.
>> Stephen: A WELL REGULATED MILITIA BEING NECESSARY TO A
FREE STATE IS THE END OF THE SENTENCE.
>> WON'T BE OVERTURNED.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT?
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE OVERTURNED.
LET'S NOT LITIGATE THAT.
>> PUNISH THE PEOPLE WHO ABUSE THE GUNS.
PUNISH THEM!
>> Stephen: BUT ALSO RESTRICT SOME GUNS.
YOU SAY IT'S POSSIBLE.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: SO GUNS.
I.S.I.S., YOU STAY WE DESTROY I.S.I.S., YOU SAY THIS KIND OF
PROBLEM WILL NEVER END BUT WHAT?
>> IT WILL GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY IF YOU CUT THE HEAD OFF THE
SNAKE.
>> Stephen: IS IT NOT A PHYSICAL THING THE PROBLEM BUT
THE IDEA OF JIHAD AGAINST THE UNITED STATES THE PROBLEM?
>> IDEAS -- LOOK.
>> Stephen: HOW DO YOU KILL AN IDEA.
>> YOU DON'T.
THERE ARE STILL NAZIS RUNNING AROUND, THERE ARE STIL STILL
COMMUNISTS RUNNING AROUND WANTING TO DOMINATE.
YOU TAKE THE PLAYING FIELD AND DESTROY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
DESTROYING YOUR PEOPLE.
THIS WAR!
ACCEPT IT!
>> Stephen: DO YOU SEE THIS AS A HATE CRIME THAT HE CHOSE A GAY
CLUB?
>> EVERYTHING I.S.I.S. DOES IS A HATE CRIME, THE WHOLE THING!
(APPLAUSE) >> Stephen: HE'S NOT A MEMBER
OF I.S.I.S.
>> HE USED THE I.S.I.S. IDEOLOGY TO JUSTIFY KILLING GAYS BECAUSE
I.S.I.S. WANTS TO KILL GAYS, JUST LIKE HITLER WANTED TO KILL
GAYS SAME THING.
>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM.
>> NO.
>> Stephen: HIS WIFE SAID HE HAD A HISTORY OF DOMESTIC ABUSE,
BIPOLAR AND ON STEROIDS.
>> LOOK, THAT'S AN EXCUSE.
>> Stephen: NO, SHE'S NOT EXCUSING HIM, SHE GOT AWAY FROM
HIM.
>> THIS GUY IS EVIL.
>> Stephen:LY ACCEPT EVIL EXISTS.
>> HE'S EVIL AND SO IS I.S.I.S.
>> Stephen: WHAT IS THE PROPER RESPONSE TO EVIL?
>> DESTROY IT.
CONFRONT IT.
YOU DON'T CONTAIN EVIL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T.
YOU DESTROY EVIL, AND I.S.I.S.
IS EVIL, THIS MATEEN IS EVIL, HE'S DEAD, NOW WE HAVE TO GET
THE REST OF THEM.
>> Stephen: IF YOU DETAIN EVIL, CAN IT DESTROY ITSELF?
>> NO, UNLESS YOU'RE PLAY DOUGH.
(LAUGHTER) THIS IS LIFE AND DEATH.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE DEAD AMERICANS IN THE STREETS.
WE HAVE TO PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN THESE PEOPLE AND DO IT SOON.
>> Stephen: BILL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
BILL O'REILLY, THE SERIES "LEGENDS AND LIES: THE
PATRIOTS," AIRS SUNDAYS ON THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL, BILL O'REILLY,
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