I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but
it seems like you're not in favor of secularism.
So, I wanted to ask about that.
So, I never understand what you folks mean when you say we
shouldn't be a secular country.
Do you think religion should rule us?
What do you mean?
>> I think that we should have a secular government and a religious population,
just as the founders did.
That's why in God we trust is one of the three models of our country, and we
are now seeing the consequences in every area of life of the death of Christianity.
And I say this is a religious Jew.
The death of the Judeo Christian value system, the death of the ten commandments,
and the death of all the things that came with religion, meaning and
community and moral absolutes among them.
The death of religious values is why we can now say there were more
than two sexes and that we shouldn't call kids boys and girls in schools anymore.
We are living in the age of moral and
intellectual chaos because of the death of religion.
>> Okay, so Paul just came out today, I think actually.
61% of republicans say we should be a Christian nation, but
don't get them twisted.
They're not saying, hey, just be Christian at home.
57% of republicans say, no, we know it's unconstitutional.
We know that it's not in the constitution.
We can't establish a religion, but we wanna do it anyway.
61% say, no, we want it.
So, that seems to be establishing a religion Christianity.
Do you think 61% of republicans are wrong?
>> They didn't say they wanted to establish a religion,
they said they wanted a Christian country.
I'd rather have a Christian country than a secular country and I'm a Jew.
>> Okay, so help me understand what a Christian country means.
Does that mean you established a religion?
>> No one established, there was never an established religion in the country and
Christians aren't for it.
I work more with Christians than with Jews.
My synagogue is Jews, but I work with Christians, I'm in churches all the time.
I never heard one of them say, let's establish Christianity.
>> What does it mean?
>> One instance live deeply in the separation of church and state.
>> I don't see that at all and it's not in the poll.
57% said, yeah, we know it's unconstitutional.
They mean, establish a religion.
Now, you're trying to make it like that the Republicans don't actually mean that.
So what do they mean when they say we want a Christian nation,
not like the one that's in the constitution?
>> Right, I don't know the constitutional part.
This is brand new to me, so I can't comment.
I can only tell you that when Christians say they want a Christian nation,
they want a nation that is governed by Christian moral principles, and
not the moral chaos that we see today and I am a supporter of that notion.
>> Governed means the state, but anyway, go ahead.
>> So. >> I don't believe in Christ, just for
the record.
I am not a Christian, and they are not forcing and
they never did force anybody to believe in Christ.
Even when they were really in power,
they never forced one American to accept Christ.
That's a pretty damn good record.
>> That's because [LAUGH] it's not constitutional.
You're making it seem like they had the option.
>> So I wanna ask, >> Well, wait a minute.
>> Okay, go ahead.
>> You just said if they have power, you're afraid, correct?
>> Well, first of all, no, I didn't say that.
But Dennis, yeah,
I'm worried that your dear leader Donald Trump doesn't believe in democracy.
He said you had a system to put in fake electors, now you've got 61% of
republicans say, screw it, let's just be a Christian nation.
Let's just stop and basically had been run by a Christian Moola, okay?
And so, do you think Trump wouldn't say, I'm that Moola and
we're not having democracy.
He'd do that in a second.
You think that he cares about the rest of us?
A lifelong conman who only cares about his own power and wealth.
If you can't see that Dennis, you're being purposely blind.
>> The man was a president for four years.
He was far more open than Joe Biden and the democrats are, who are using the FBI
to suppress dissent and who are using >> [LAUGH] Trump more open.
>> The New York times and CNN.
This is the least free America has been in its
history >> Dennis,
>> In terms of free speech and
freedom of dissent and it's because of the democrats and the left.
Trump was in office- >> Obama had taken classified documents
from the White House home with him.
And if the federal government with the DOJ gave him multiple chances,
multiple opportunities, to just return the classified top
secret documents and he didn't do it, and that led to a raid.
Would you be on the show right now providing cover for Obama?
I'm genuinely curious, I want you to give me an answer.
>> We were part of a systemic use by a Republican
government of suppression of democrats.
I would damn well be on this program saying that.
>> He had every opportunity to just return the documents and he refused to do it.
No one should be held above the law, in my opinion.
I mean, I don't think that should be controversial.
I don't care if it's a democrat, I don't care if it's a leftist,
I don't care if it's a republican.
You can't break the law repeatedly and
just assume that you're entitled to be treated above the law.
Why do you think it's okay to provide cover for criminality like that?
>> Okay let me tell you every one of us who is a conservative believes no, nos.
There were political prisoners in the United States for
the first time in American history,
and it's because the leftist is in power, and there is no instance in the history
of the world since Vladimir Lenin of the left being in power and allowing dissent.
It was liberals in power in the past with Democrats, today it is leftists.
There is a huge difference.
I wrote of 32 differences between liberalism and
leftism in a column that anyone can find on the Internet.
I'll give you one example, leftists believe in all black dormitories, like at
Columbia University where I went, liberals do not believe in all black dormitories.
There is nothing in common between liberalism and leftism.
Leftism is evil, liberalism is honorable.
And what we now have is the left doing what it always does, suppress dissent.
>> Yeah, that's absolute nonsense