HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK.
MY NEXT GUESTS ARE SONGWRITERS AND MUSICIANS WHO HAVE SOLD OVER
ONE MILLION ALBUMS.
NOW THEY'VE WRITTEN A MEMOIR CALLED "HIGH SCHOOL."
PLEASE WELCOME TEGAN AND SARA!
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>> Stephen: WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SONGWRITERS FOR-- HOW
LONG?
15, 20 YEARS?
>> HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
>> Stephen: HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
SO ABOUT TWO DECADES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> YUP.
>> Stephen: NOW YOU HAVE WRITTEN YOUR FIRST BOOK?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: FIRST BOOK.
>> THAT WAS PUBLISHED.
>> Stephen: THAT WAS PUBLISHED.
IT'S CALLED "HIGH SCHOOL."
AND I LIKE IT.
IT'S GOT THIS BASICALLY HIGH SCHOOL BATHROOM-QUALITY MIRROR
ON THE FRONT.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: AND WHY WRITE THIS?
BECAUSE YOU JUST WANTED TO RELIVE THOSE HAPPY YEARS?
>> SO TEAGAN AND I ARE TWIN SISTERS.
WE GREW UP IN THE 1990s.
WE STARTED OUR BAND IN THE 1990s.
AND WE WANTED TO WRITE OUR ORIGIN STORY.
AND OUR ORIGIN STORY-- YES, PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
YEAH.
( APPLAUSE )
>> IT'S REAL.
IT'S REAL.
>> Stephen: OH, I BELIEVE IT.
I BELIEVE IT.
I THINK I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THESE GIRLS.
>> WE GOT A LITTLE-- YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE OUR PASSPORT
PHOTO.
LIKE THEY REALLY DON'T WANT YOU TO SMILE IN CANADA.
THEY'RE LIKE LOOK SERIOUS FOR ONCE.
>> Stephen: OH, REALLY?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
NO, IT WAS A CHOICE.
WE WANTED TO WRITE OUR ORIGIN STORIES, THOSE YEARS-- THIS
YEAR, SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S GRADE 10, WE WERE 15.
AND WE STARTED WRITING OUR FIRST SONGS WHEN WE WERE 15.
IT WASN'T JUST A MUSIC MEMOIR.
IT REALLY STARTED TO BE ABOUT OUR IDENTITY AS TWIN SISTERS, AS
VONGWRITERS, AS CREATIVE PEOPLE, AND ALSO-- HOLD ON, QUEER AS
WELL.
SO WE COVERED THAT AS WELL.
IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
IT'S A LOT TO COVER IN A BOOK.
>> SARAH JUST CAME OUT, YOU GUYS, SARAH JUST CAME OUT.
YOU'RE VERY BRAVE.
>> I FINALLY SAID IT.
>> Stephen: AS TWINS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TWINS,
LIKE ME, HAVE THESE IDEAS IN THEIR HEAD THAT TWINS KIND OF
HAVE A SPECIAL TWIN LANGUAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
DID YOU COME OUT TO EACH OTHER FIRST?
OR DID YOU TELL OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ONLY
SORT OF WONDER WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE OTHER SISTER?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WE WANTED TO WRITE
THE BOOK.
FOR 20 YEARS WE'VE BEEN CONTINGENT THE STORY AND I FEEL
LIKE PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE US.
WE DIDN'T TELL EACH OTHER.
SARA CARRIED ON RELATIONSHIPS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
SARA AND I SHARED A BEST FRIEND, AND WHEN SHE STARTED SLEEPING
WITH BEST FRIEND I WAS NO LONGER INVITED TO THE SLEEP-OVERS.
>> AND I WAS LIKE GET A LIFE.
>> Stephen: WHO WAS BORN FIRST?
>> I WAS.
>> Stephen: SO YOU'RE THE OLDER SISTER.
>> YEAH.
>> MORE IMMATURE.
SHE FOUND HER IDENTITY LATER IN HIGH SCHOOL.
>> SHE'S TRYING TO BE A JERK, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.
SHE WAS MORE ADVANCED -- >> Stephen: SHE'S SUCCEEDING
AT BEING A JERK, SHE'S NOT JUST TRYING.
>> SHE'S VERY ADVANCED AND I FELT LEFT OUT.
WE WANTED TO TELL THAT PART OF THE STORY.
I THINK WHEN YOU HEAR QUEER STORIES IT'S POSITIVE.
AND WHEN PEOPLE MEET US THEY MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE YOU MUST
HAVE BEEN BEST FRIENDS AND CONFIDED IN EACH OTHER.
I ONLY FOUND OUT SARA WAS GAY WHEN WE WROTE THE BOOK.
>> THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THAT'S NOT TRUE-- THAT'S--
>> Stephen: INDEX...
>> WE LIE A LOT IN THE BOOK.
>> Stephen: WHAT KIND OF SOANGZ WERE YOU WRITING IN HIGH
SCHOOL?
YOU SAID-- THESE GIRLS RIGHT HERE.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: THEY DIDN'T-- THEY DIDN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER AND
BEAT UP ON EACH OTHER RIGHT THERE, BUT THEY'RE WRITING SONGS
TOGETHER.
WHAT WERE THE SONGS LIKE?
>> I THINK IN A WAY, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT OURSELVES TO
EACH OTHER IN MUSIC.
>> YUP.
>> I WOULD WRITE A SONG, AND I THINK IT GAVE TEAGAN AN IDEA OF
WHERE I WAS AT MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY.
WE JUST MADE AN ALBUM OF SONGS WE WROTE WHEN WE WERE 15, 16,
17.
>> Stephen: IS THAT WHAT THIS IS?
>> THAT'S ALL SONGS WE WROTE IN THE 1990s.
>> "HEY, I'M JUST LIKE YOU."
>> AND THEY'RE SONGS LIKE, "DON'T BELIEVE THE THINGS THEY
TELL YOU, THEY LIE."
>> OR "WE DON'T HAVE FUN WHEN WE'RE TOGETHER ANYMORE."
THINGS YOUNG PEOPLE SAY.
GLI KNOW THOSE FEELINGS.
>> I THINK YOU'LL LIKE THE RECORD.
>> Stephen: DID ANY OF THE STORIES IN HERE SURPRISE YOUR
PARENTS?
WERE THEY SHOCKED BY GOVERNMENT STORIES IN HERE?
>> OKAY, WE DID A LOT OF L.S.D.
( LAUGHTER )
COMING OUT TO YOU IN SO MANY WAYS RIGHT NOW.
>> Stephen: SURE.
>> I WANT TO YOU LIKE UAND I WANT YOU TO THINK OF US AS
RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE.
FULL DISCLOSURE-- WE DON'T DO L.S.D. ANYMORE.
WE DID EXPERIMENT WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
AND MY PARENTS, LIKE, LOOSELY KNEW THAT.
WE WOULD SAY JOKINGLY LIKE, "I TOOK ACID IN HIGH SCHOOL," BUT
MY MOM WAS VERY DISTURBED BY HOW MUCH WE DID.
>> Stephen: HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING?
AND AT ANY POINT DID YOU THINK YOU WERE A BEE AND TRY TO FORCE
YOURSELF THROUGH A KEYHOLE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
AND THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HEAD-TURNING SCARS FREFORT OF
YOUR LIFE FOR WHAT YOU DO TO YOUR FACE TRYING TO FORCE
YOURSELF THROUGH A KEY HOLE.
>> I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT SOUNDS RAD.
WE WERE TOLD THE L.S.D. WOULD BUILD UP IN YOUR SPINE.
>> AND YOU CAN'T BE AN AIRPLANE PILOT.
>> Stephen: WHAT?
>> THAT IS NOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
SOMEBODY SAW THAT PICTURE OF THAT KID AND WAS LIKE, "MA'AM,
YOU CANNOT BE AN AIRPLANE PILOT IF YOU TAKE L.S.D.
>> YOU TWO GOT OFF EASY.
YOU GOT TOLD YOU WOULD BECOME A BEE.
YOU WERE TOLD YOU COULD NOT BE A PILOT.
>> I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BUILD UP IN MY SPINE.
I THINK MY MOM TOLD US IF WE TRIED L.S.D., WE WOULD JUMP
THROUGH A PLATE GLASS.
WE DID IT 50 TIMES.
IS THAT A LOT?
>> MOM ASKED US TOW PUBLICLY TALK ABOUT THE FACT WE DID
EXPERIMENT WITH DRUGS, AND IT BROUGHT US CLOSER TOGETHER.
WE HAD A DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP.
WE HAD FUN WHEN WE WERE ON DRUGS.
>> YOU'RE SUCH A NARC >> AND WE REPLACED THAT BAD
HABIT WITH MUSIC.
WE LEARNED TO HAVE FUN AND MAKING MUSIC AND STOPPED DOING
L.S.D.
>> Stephen: YOUR MESSAGE IS, "KID, DON'T DO L.S.D. OR DRUGS
FOREVER.
>> FOREVER.
>> FOR, LIKE, A YEAR.
>> Stephen: DON'T DO IT.
"HIGH SCHOOL" IS AVAILABLE NOW.
STICK AROUND FOR A PERFORMANCE BY TEGAN AND SARA!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.