- What do you remember about the last time we spoke
face to face before reconnecting?
- Um, so I remember...
you telling me that
you cheated on me
in the beginning of our relationship
more than once with more than one woman
and you just wanted to tell me that and
that's the last thing I remember
and I didn't want to be a part of the relationship anymore.
And I remember us being angry and me questioning a lot
and it was, it just went by really fast
and you left wherever we were and
I was just angry and just flabbergasted.
So that's the last thing I remember.
I think I said some hurtful things too.
I think.
- It's only right.
After what, after that--
- I was surprised.
I was surprised, so, yeah.
- I know I've said it multiple times but I didn't...
I'm sorry.
- It's okay.
- And my turn.
(cards rustling)
- What's the first thing you notice about me
after all of this time?
- You still wear bright colors.
(Krystal laughing) No matter where it is a lot people wear
just plain simple colors but you still choose
to stand out from the crowd.
That's probably the first thing I noticed
when I saw you today.
- Yeah.
These are pretty loud pants.
- Pretty loud, yeah.
(Krystal lauging)
(Steven sighing loudly)
- And do you wanna know what I first noticed
about you after all this time?
- Yes.
- I would say that
it was almost like we didn't
miss out on anything.
- Yes
- That was the first thing.
Like you were on the train and you called me
like, "Oh I'm at the back of the train,"
and I got on the train and I'm like,
"Oh okay, there he is."
- That's true.
- And it was almost like--
- It was almost like nothing, like days didn't pass.
- Yeah. - Or something like that.
Like it was, but I think I thought it was going to be
like really uncomfortable and bad vibes--
- Yeah.
- all the way through, but...
- Considering how it ended - Yeah
Considering how it ended but it--
- But yeah that was the first thing I noticed, like,
"Wow, okay this is very familiar and okay."
Different but not that different.
Not as different as I thought it would be.
- Agreed.
- And you look pretty much the same.
- Yeah right, just...
- You're aging like--
- I'm aging like milk. - Fine wine.
Like fine wine.
(laughing)
- All right, that's cool.
What are your three favorite memories we share?
- My favorite memories, three?
- Like your favorite, or like the top of the list,
what would it be?
- It's been awhile, I don't know, um.
I guess just like being with you in those intimate moments.
Like we wouldn't have to do a lot to enjoy each other.
Like we'd be running errands, or I'd be like
in your art studio, or we'd just be hanging out.
- Just be chillin'
- Yeah.
(laughing)
And just be having a really good time.
A really awesome time, like,
just the comfortability and everything.
Just being together.
Side by side, it was cool.
- That was cool.
- Yeah.
(Steven laughing)
(Cracking knuckles)
- Okay.
Describe the moment you first knew I loved you.
- The first moment I knew.
I'm not going to say there was like a,
an instant moment,
But I would say like it gradually picked up over time
when it was just like I said we were just honestly
just having random conversations, making up random words,
and it was almost like you are kinda me
and I'm kinda you.
I still can't get that word catslug out.
- Oh my God. - Yeah. (laughing)
(Krystal laughs)
Yeah, so I would say that would be like--
- Whoa - Yeah.
- Did I come up with that-- - I don't know
- Or was that you?
(Steven stammering)
That's the, like we used to just
make up words. - Make up just random words
and like sounds and just
whatever, however-- - and apply them to...
- Yeah.
(laughing)
That was, that was, yeah.
- Yeah.
Know what, I ask you the same.
- The first moment I knew that you loved me?
Um, oh, like the little things
you used to do for me.
Like when um...
I think I got into a car accident
and I was working at the restaurant,
and you used to just come
because I didn't have a car,
so you took your car and waited for me
outside my job mostly every day
and consistently would give me rides home
and buy me little things like little snacks.
- I had gummy worms.
- Yeah, gummy worms-- - It was a bunch of
gummy worms and stuff
- And stuff like, "Hey I know you had a hard day but
"got some gummy worms." - got some gummy worms.
- And you, yeah, so that meant a lot.
That's when I knew this guy really cares for me.
He's just being extremely nice to me
and caring and considerate.
And all of those things kind of lead to love
or signify love. (Steven laughing)
So...
- That's true.
- I would say that's the first time I knew
this is something real.
(laughing)
(Steven sighing loudly)
- How do you describe our break up to others?
- I was talking to my friend about this the other day
because I knew, I thought we were going to hang out maybe?
I didn't know if, it wasn't solidified,
but I just explained it as I experienced it.
Um, things just got progressively worse.
We weren't in a good spot.
We actually broke up before, like New Year's Eve,
and then things were just not right.
(Steven mumbling in agreement) We got back together shortly
after that, like a couple days later,
but things were just not right after that.
- Mm-mm. - It was not good,
we were not in a good place.
But I always said, "Okay at least he's being faithful,"
because as far as I knew, I really didn't know.
At all.
And normally I know, like women know,
but I did not know, so you were really good at hiding it.
- I don't want to be proud of that though.
- Yeah I mean it's,
Yeah I'm being, I guess sarcastic.
But, um...
how I describe it is,
"Okay, we were going through a bad time."
And then it was revealed to me by you
that you were being unfaithful
at the beginning of our relationship
and you just decided to talk about it now,
and I was not having it.
And I couldn't get past it.
I couldn't get past the fact that you didn't
feel comfortable enough to speak to me about it,
because I that we were close enough
to be able to be transparent.
And I was so cool back then.
- Like.
- So like, understanding.
- But I knew...
I knew something like that would've ended everything.
And...
And when it did happen, like it...
Is never (stammering),
I can't even put into words
but it's like...
(loud sighing)
I just didn't want to do that to you.
Like, I just didn't want to hurt you to that extent.
And I held on to it.
- How did you do that though 'cause we went like...
- I was falling apart. I was, you don't.
I held it, but I was--
- Is that why you like couldn't sleep?
(stammering)
- Exactly
- Yeah. - Like I...
- Why do that to yourself?
- 'Cause I didn't want to hurt you.
I knew I really-- - that's
- I knew I really fucked up.
- But then you, that's more hurt.
- Oh who? - To keep it?
- On whose part?
On mine alone, like I said. - On your part
It's gonna be on your
part regardless-- - Exactly.
- If you cheat.
- So I'm gonna take the full responsibility of that.
I'm not going to put you through some bullshit that I did,
which is why I held onto it for so long.
Yeah, it sucks ass, but it's...
- I don't think you went about that the right way
because especially if it was-- - Of course not, of course not
- Especially if it was in the beginning, and you told me,
"Hey, I messed up,"
I'm not saying like would have stayed,
because that is one of my things that I don't stand for,
but because you came to me
and you explained the situation
like the day after it happened,
can I really be that upset?
But I still didn't feel like it was happening.
Because I thought you would tell me.
And that's it.
- I don't feel like it's-- - It's my turn.
- Yeah.
- What do you think I'm hesitant to ask you?
(Steven sighing loudly)
- You're not hesitant to ask any questions.
(Krystal snorting)
You're definitely not hesitant to ask anything.
Um.
- We've talked a lot of it out.
- We've talked it, but I don't think we've
gotten to the bottom.
- No, we haven't. - Not at all.
- No.
- So, hesitant to ask me anything?
Not at all.
- I'm not.
I was just saving it for here.
- Oh.
- You know like we just agreed we wanted to.
- I mean, are you hesitant to ask me any questions?
You don't have to ask the question
but is it like a yes or a no?
- Am I hesitant to ask you anything, no.
I think we need to
discuss it all-- - okay.
- Because we never got that chance to
and it's important.
You know we can sit her and act all tough, like, "Oh,"
but we had something real.
- Yeah.
- I think. - No, we did.
- And um, so it makes sense to close the chapter
in the proper way.
- Fair enough. - We gotta do it.
Right? - Yeah.
- Whether you like it or not. (laughs)
- No, just, it's gotta happen.
- Yeah.
Is there anything you're hesitant to ask me?
- Yeah.
- What?
- Yeah.
- Do you want to ask it now?
- I'm about to if I don't pass out on camera.
(Krystal laughs)
(Steven laughs)
Do you miss what we had?
- Um...