Vegan Gains: Are you on the gear/juice, brah? Massive Gains. I'm not on any gear at all.
I've never taken steroids. I'm 100% full, natty brah.
Vegan Gains (VG): Make some Vegan Gains! (where dey at doe)
Jacob: In essence, Vegan Gains is this kid named Richard who started a Vegan Gains "channel".
Where he's a bodybuilder, he's vegan, hates people, loves animals, and feels very strongly
about it. VG:I f****** hate children. They literally
make me sick. When i see babies in a commercial, I start to gag and almost throw up and I have
to look away and mute it. And when i see babies in a stroller, especially if they are crying,
I just want to put my foot through the (quack) thing and step on it, until it's nothing but
blood and pulp on the f****** pavement. Elf: He's an angry elf.
Jacob: First off, I want to start by saying, that I am not the end all be all of bodybuilding.
I have been bodybuilding seriously for about 2 years, been in fitness for about 5, but
I just want to note some inconsistencies that the other part of the bodybuilding community
thinks of Vegan Gains. I say it is a "fitness channel", because it doesn't really have much
fitness in it. I mean he calls out fitness people and he shows some videos of him and
his mom working out.(clip) In his studies that he likes to point out against bodybuilders,
he uses normal studies of normal people. Now, i respect that he uses studies and tries to
show evidence based on case studies, however, these case studies seem to be inconsistent.
When it's a fitness channel he doesn't use actual fitness studies. So what i mean by
that is the studies that he often points out towards bodybuilders he's calling out to say
that they are going to get cancer, that they probably have high cholesterol. They deal
with average joes. These studies deal with average people. Never does it say anything
about people in fitness, maybe a vegan bodybuilder vs a omnivore bodybuilder. It's just an average
joe who is vegan or a guy who eats meat a ton, who is also an average joe. He disregards
completely that cholesterol, fats, carbs, and protein, all these different things that
may be "harmful" (in large quantities) towards a person is actually something that bodybuilders
need, but this is a fitness channel and you're calling out professional bodybuilders? They
need higher cholesterol, they need fats, they need carbs, they need protein. Other than
the cancerous side of your studies, they don't really apply towards bodybuilders. Also, might
i add that, he reuses the same things over, and over, and over (clip). I feel like sometimes
he regurgitates the same cases over and over, but doesn't exactly know what he is saying,
or what it means. It just has some positive outlook on veganism (clip). Reduce inflammation?
I read that case study and maybe it's a lack of knowledge on my part, but what exactly
does he mean by reducing inflammation. He just hits it in his video like, "reduce inflammation".
Ok, reduce inflammation where? Gastro-intestinal inflammation? Inflammation of the muscles?
I mean, what are we talking about here, you can't just skip past that then sight it as
if it's fact. This is what leads me to believe he is a google debater. And what that means
is that when he gets in a debate with some bodybuilder or some guy on the internet, he
just looks up a source that will help him in his time of need. You'll see in his videos,
he'll completely ignore someones valid point that they want him to answer. He picks the
battles that he'll know he'll win whether it be am easy attack to make the other person
look stupid, or another point that he is trying to reiterate with another source. He'll completely
ignore someone's valid question or valid point, because he knows that it'll make him lose
that point. SO he tries to maintain this image of him being smart and knowing what he's talking
about, so he'll choose to completely ignore some of the topics at hand cause he knows
it would make him look stupid. Also, in regards to his debating style, Might i add that he'll
say "Oh, i respect your opinion, and respect you.", but then he'll go one to explain that
they are wrong. How's that respecting someone's opinion if you're going, "Oh, yeah, i hear
what you're saying, but i just want to let you know, you're wrong." You're not respecting
his opinion at all, you're just trying to make yourself look nicer than you really are.
Now again, i do not mean to be a jerk, I want my channel to be used to encourage people,
whether it be beginners or to help encourage even someone who has been bodybuilding for
a while. However, if he's going to point out the people that we look up to, then we can
point out some of the things that are inconsistent with him. First off, might i add, he has good
bicep genetics. He has high peaks which is common for someone who is mixed african american,
but that's it! He really shies away from ever showing his chest or anything like that, because
he knows he doesn't have that good of a chest. He has a decent back and alright legs, but
he hides himself in his shirt. You can see it in the videos. He wears shirts that are
way too big or him. Right now, I'm wearing a large and I'm 6"4 at 193, weighing in. Now,
I get it. I understand the tall man genetics. If you have a smaller waist, you can have
the skinnier legs, so i understand. However, I will say, he really does hide away from
his own body. You can see his own insecurities in his videos. Like what size T-shirts does
he wear? Is he wearing a large and is just that small that it makes him look puny in
it, or is he wearing a double XL? He milks his biceps. He knows that that is the only
thing that draws attention towards him. I mean, look at the thumbnail of his videos
when he is debating with somebody. It is always that one picture of him in the gym wear his
arm is smushed up against the side of his lat and it is making his arm 10 times bugger
than it is. He also said that he has 20 inch arms on his old channel. Guy has some serious
insecurity issues, as we all do. He just hides his insecurities in being mean towards people,
yet he wants to be nice to all the animals? I don't see the consistency in that at all.
The ironic thing with Vegan Gains is that he calls people out for being unethical, by
selling protein powders or supplements like Marc Lobliner. He is a leech of Youtube. These
people are trying to make an honest living through supplements that actually work. There
are studies that shows that protein powders do work and other supplements like creatine.
The reason why i say he is the leech of Youtube is because all he cares about is views. The
question i want to answer now is "How do we deal with him?" Whether you like him or you
hate him, what do you do? He is a leech of Youtube, all he cares about is views, he doesn't
care if you dislike his videos, like his videos. He doesn't care if you hate him or love him.
If you're watching his videos your helping him, whether you like it or not. So if you
like him and you think he is entertaining like i do, like don't get me wrong, I think
he makes some fair points in some of the things he says, but it is a minuscule amount. I find
his videos entertaining, so I'm going to continue to be subscribed and watch his videos. Now,
I'm not going to take his nutritional advice. Now, if you are unhealthy, maybe you want
to think about a vegan diet, so this is what we do with Vegan Gains. If You are like me
and you like his videos for entertainment, then stay subscribed. Continue watching his
videos, but if you're one of those people that gets so offended by what he does, then
just don't participate in it. Don't watch his videos, no matter how much it reels you
in, if he's fat shaming or calling a bodybuilder you like out, if you don't like the guy and
you don't want him to get money, then don't watch his videos. Cause whether you like it
or not, like the video or not, if you are watching the video, you giving him money.
I kind of feel bad for the. yes, he is getting money, but he is so hated by people. There
are so many people that don't like him. The thing with vegan gains is that. The only way
that he can continue to make money, the only way he can continue to get views is if he
continues to say more and more offensive things, or call out more and more people. That's the
thing, his channel has sustainability. People watch his videos and he got popularity so
quickly, because he says things that are offending people. He wants to draw you in with his offensiveness,
so if you don't like the videos, then don't participate in it, because if you like it
or not, you are keeping his Youtube channel going. It's eventually going to fade out anyways,
people are going to stop listening. In my mind, he is that guy who is yelling on the
corner of the street. Yeah, people hear him, but are people actually listening. People
are going to get used to of more and more of what he is saying and the types of videos he's putting out that
are offensive, so they are going to get more and more used to it. So he is going to have
to yell louder, he is going to have to have something more offensive to say. If you just
kind of ignore it and let it run its course, then he is not gonna last much longer.