well in Cardiff during tonight's BBC
election debates all the participants
expressed their horror at the events on
London Bridge and paid tribute to the
victims and the emergency services the
debate itself saw heated exchanges over
brexit with conservative claims they
could get brexit done being described as
a lie and Labor's position branded as a
cop-out well our political editor Laura
Coons Berg is in Cardiff for us tonight
Laura Clive is the technicians pack up
here in Cardiff inevitably and quite
rightly probably this debate began with
a more somber tone to reflect the events
of what's happened in London less of the
hurly-burly less of the political
pantomime that's dominated much of this
election campaign so far there were
serious clashes though and serious
conversations over the issues that
divide and unite us 7 politicians 7
parties all here tonight fighting for
their corner a clash of political shades
a rainbow of 7 party colours taking the
stage together in an election with the
debate taking a more serious turn
acknowledging and asked how they would
tackle the kinds of events that took
place a hundred and fifty miles away one
of the panel members proposed to do to
tackle security issues in the UK in
future the first duty of every
government is to keep us safe and of
course a Conservative government will
continue to do that investing in our
police giving them the resources and the
powers that they need we've seen over
twenty thousand police officers caught
from frontline services so it's right to
recognise that that would have a direct
impact and of course we've got to invest
more in community neighbourhood policing
we have to make sure that we support our
security services that we keep access to
the best intelligence which is one of
many reasons I think leaving the
European Union is a mistake we've set
out plans to increase police numbers by
20,000 I think it's also important that
we look at what the police do and that
community policing suggestions too
though that the police take a different
approach in preventing terrorism I think
we need to look again at the prevent
programme because I think we need to
make sure that it is in doing as much
Khan
every single community in our country as
it can and I'm not sure right now that
it is we must keep investing in more
police and more technology but however
many police we have and we need all of
it as many of those police as possible
on the streets then a clash over the two
big parties big differences on spending
I think you were referred to recently in
the media talking about the figure of
1.2 trillion spends which is a
fabricated lie that the Conservative
Party have been perpetrating over the
last few weeks you look at people like
the IFS respected think tanks they've
described the Labour plans as simply not
credible they said that they're wholly
unprecedented they've also said they all
said very clearly it will be ordinary
working families that pay the price and
higher taxes you need to look for
parties that are going to set out where
they will get the money from
and we're saying very honestly we think
the NHS needs more money and we're gonna
raise income tax by a penny in the pound
in order to do so then the core question
try to conclude brexit or stop it
altogether I was a remain voter but feel
that we're so far along the brexit
journey now that it has to go ahead how
do those of you here this evening feel
about talk of a second referendum we are
so not far along with this brexit
journey you know the idea that BRICS is
going to be done we're like in Episode
one of a ten season box set and if you
don't like what you've seen up to know
you don't have to watch the rest it's
going to take us years to negotiate a
new trade agreement into the seven years
with Canada so the idea you're going to
get it done through this is just simply
a fantasy nobody but nobody thinks a
trade deal can be negotiated and agreed
by the end of next year yes we do you're
not well yeah but we know we don't trust
you sorry brother just trust you
well trust you because you don't trust
appoint for me
Boris Johnson of course insists it is
possible you said he couldn't get a
break the deal it would be impossible
but he did he did get a great new deal
and he got it in three months so you
were wrong and you Redwall deal no
wonder people don't have faith in
politicians when the leader the Labour
Party the candidate ebdb prime minister
that won't even tell us where he stands
on this central question that's gonna
cast its shadow for a generation because
he needs to get a good deal with the
European you you know I think stating
how he would vote in a final public boat
would undermine that as ever this
elections about the health service to
the NHS is failing what are you going to
do to stop this and make sure it's not
sold to the highest bidder the NHS is
not for sale never has been and never
will be documents were released this
week that showed very clearly that the
government had been involved in numerous
discussions with US trade officials it's
just a desperate conspiracy theory that
we're actively Crysta nature will not be
on the table the price the pay the NHS
pays for drugs will not be on the table
Boris Johnson says that the NHS is
naught and the table in a future trade
deal I simply do not trust him and I do
not believe him last how would they
greet the controversial visitor Donald
Trump if you had 30 seconds with him
what would you say Happy Thanksgiving
I'm a good Catholic so I won't say in
public what I probably would say to him
let's get a quick trade deal done here's
already a chance that's what hypnosis
stop this scam it's pathetic just lying
to the British people continue I think
you've got form on that
resign and take Boris with him at the
end there were some friends on stage but
they'd be wise to hug their political
enemies closer still and there were
certainly passionate arguments tonight
but no grand revelations that you think
might really upset what really being
quite stable tram lines that have been
running through this campaign that
finale they are on Donald Trump's
imminent visit though a reminder that
there are plenty of events Clive left to
go in what is now less than the final
fortnight when the public in the end on
Thursday in ten days time will have made
its decision okay Laura Thank You Laura
Koons Berg there live in Cardiff