>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL." MANY MUSLIMS GATHER FOR WORSHIP.
BUT TODAY THEY WERE GATHERED AT
THE CHRISTCHURCH IN NEW ZEALAND
WHEN A MAN WALKED IN KILLING
TERRIFIED WORSHIPPERS, 49 OF
THEM.
THEM. THE MAN LIVE STREAMING THE
MASSACRE DROVE TO THE LIN WOOD
MOSQUE IN CHRISTCHURCH AND
KILLED MORE.
KILLED MORE. WELL, DOZENS MORE INCLUDING
SMALL CHILDREN ARE BEING TREATED
FOR GUN SHOT WOUNDS.
THEY WARN THE DEATH TOLL COULD
RISE.
RISE. THE SUSPECT A 20-YEAR-OLD MAN
FROM AUSTRALIA HAS BEEN CHARGED
WITH MURDER AND MADE HIS FIRST
COURT APPEARANCE A SHORT TIME
AGO.
AGO. AUTHORITIES ARE INVESTIGATING AN
PARENT MANIFESTO HE LEFT BEHIND
FILL WOULD WHITE SUPREMACIST
VIEWS.
VIEWS. AS POLICE TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT
ROLE THEY PLAY.
THE PRIME MINISTER OF NEW
ZEALAND CONDEMNED THE TERRORIST
ATTACK.
ATTACK. >> MANY OF THOSE WHO WILL HAVE
BEEN DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE
SHOOTING MAY BE MIGRANTS TO NEW
ZEALAND.
ZEALAND. THEY MAY EVEN BE REFUGEES HERE.
THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE NEW
ZEALAND THEIR HOME AND IT IS
THEIR HOME.
THEIR HOME. THEY ARE US.
THE PERSON WHO HAS PERPETUATED
THIS VIOLENCE AGAINST US IS NOT.
THEY HAVE NO PLACE IN NEW
ZEALAND.
ZEALAND. THERE IS NO PLACE IN NEW ZEALAND
FOR SUCH ACTS OF EXTREME AND
UNPRECEDENTED VIOLENCE WHICH IS
CLEAR THIS ACT WAS.
>> IN THE UNITED STATES, CIVIL
RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE BEEN SEEING
AN UPTICK OF HATE MOTIVATED
CRIMES OF LATE.
ACCORDING THE FBI THE NUMBER
INCREASED FOR THE THIRD
CONSECUTIVE YEAR.
CONSECUTIVE YEAR. THE COUNSEL FOR ISLAMIC
RELATIONS HAS SEEN AN UPTICK OF
MUSLIM BIAS.
MUSLIM BIAS. THE GOLD STAR FATHER AND FORMER
RABBI AT THE TREE OF LIFE
SYNAGOGUE IN PITTSBURGH,
REMEMBER THAT.
REMEMBER THAT. WHEN A GUNMAN ENTERED THEIR
TEMPLE, KILLING 11 PEOPLE.
THIS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. I WAS JUST THERE WITH PART OF MY
FAMILY, WIFE AND SISTER AND
BROTHER IN LAW.
IT’S A QUIET COUNTRY, RURAL,
BUTTE FARMS.
BUTTE FARMS. PEEPT THAT ARE REALLY NICE WITH
YOU.
YOU. A LITTLE DIVERSITY IN
CHRISTCHURCH.
CHRISTCHURCH. BUT IT’S NOT CROWDED WITH BORDER
WARS AND FIGHTS AND ETHNICITY.
THEY WENT AFTER THIS SMALL
ISLAMIC GROUP MAINLY FROM INDIA.
>> MY HEART FELT CONDOLENCES TO
THE VICTIMS OF THIS HEINOUS
MURDER.
MURDER. TO ALL MUSLIMS AT LARGE AND
PEOPLE OF OTHER FAITHS AS WELL I
WAS SADDENED TO HEAR THE TRAGEDY
AND IT IS THAT KIND OF PEACEFUL
COMMUNITIES THAT THESE
TERRORISTS SEEK WHERE THERE IS
LESS CHALLENGE SO THAT THEY CAN
MAXIMIZE THEIR VICTIMS.
ONE QUICK CAUTION TO ALL FAITH
COMMUNITIES TODAY IS THAT
PLEASE, PLEASE PROTECT YOUR
PLACES OF WORSHIP.
PROTECT TO THE MAX.
PROTECT YOUR GATHERINGS.
THEY DO NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
ONE FAITH OR THE OTHER.
TODAY IS MUSLIM.
YESTERDAY WAS MY BROTHERS AND
SISTERS AND TREE OF LIFE IN
PITTSBURGH.
PITTSBURGH. PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHRISTIANS IN
THE CHURCH.
THE CHURCH. PRIOR TO THEN IT WAS SIKH
BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
IT IS THAT -- THIS HATE IS
DISGUISED UNDER THE NAME OF
SUPREMACY.
SUPREMACY. ONE QUICK CAUTION THAT I WISH TO
LEAVE YOU WITH THIS THOUGHT AND
THAT IS IN IT THIS CAN DIVISION
AND HATE, THERE IS A FOREIGN
HAND.
HAND. OUR ADVERSARIES WISH TO SEW THIS
HATE AND DIVISION SO THAT WE
WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT THIS FOR
MANY YEARS TO COME.
>> RABBI, THANK YOU FOR COMING
ON BECAUSE THIS MUST BRING BACK
TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE MEMORIES.
THE HATRED OF THE OTHER IS
REALLY WHAT THAT’S ABOUT.
AND THE OTHER IS ANYONE
DIFFERENT FROM YOU.
DIFFERENT BACKGROUND, DIFFERENT
RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
RELIGIOUS BELIEF. BUT YOU COMBINE HATRED AND YOU
LINE IT UP WITH FIRE POWER.
BULLET AFTER BULLET BY JUST
PULLING A TRIGGER A FEW TIMES.
IT’S NOT LIKE PUNCHING A COUPLE
GUYS BECAUSE YOU’RE MAD AT THEM.
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE ABILITY
TO WALK IN, BLOW AWAY 41 PEOPLE,
DRIVE TO ANOTHER PLACE OF
WORSHIP, SHOOT SEVEN MORE.
THE DELIBERATION OF THIS BUT IT
DOESN’T TAKE ANY GUTS TO DO IT,
YOU JUST TAKE AWAY THE GUNS.
>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING
MR. KHAN SAID.
YOU’RE ONE OF MY SUPERHEROES.
AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE
SACRIFICES YOUR FAMILY HAVE MADE
FOR THIS COUNTRY.
AND I HOPE AT SOME POINT IN THE
FUTURE, YOU AND I CAN GO ARM IN
ARM.
ARM. IT TAKES HATRED AND GUNS AND YOU
CAN SEE THE DAMAGE IT DOES.
I WAS DEVASTATED TO HEAR THE
NEWS COMING FROM NEW ZEALAND.
PITTSBURGH, SQUIRREL HILL IN
PITTSBURGH, SUCH A LOVELY
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO US.
NEW ZEALAND.
NEW ZEALAND. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT IT BEING
SUCH A WONDERFUL COUNTRY, WHICH
IS, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN THERE.
IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
WE HAVE TO BE DILIGENT, WATCH
EACH OTHER’S BACKS AND
APPRECIATE PEOPLE FOR BEING
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. YOU’RE RIGHT, CHRIS, THIS IS
ABOUT HATRED.
ABOUT HATRED. PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT.
YOU AND I AREN’T SO DIFFERENT
AND YOU AND I SHARE LOT.
>> THE COUNSEL ON AMERICAN
ISLAMIC
ISLAMIC ISLAMIC RELATIONS.
ISLAMIC RELATIONS. >> WE ASK OUR POLITICAL LEADERS
TO ADDRESS THE GROWING MENACE OF
ISLAMAPHOBIA AND HATE THAT HAS
BEEN PERPETRATED BY POLITICAL
LEADERS, BY IDEOLOGUES, BY
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN FOR
PUBLIC OFFICE, BY PEOPLE WHO RUN
FOR PUBLIC OFFICE OFF THE BACKS
OF IMMIGRANTS, BLACKS, JEWS, AND
ALL MINORITIES.
ALL MINORITIES. WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE
THEIR WORDS MATTER.
YOUR POLICIES MATTER.
>> WELL,ER PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO
CONDEMNED THE ATTACK SEEMED TO
MINIMIZE THE THREAT OF WHITE
NATIONALISM GENERALLY.
NATIONALISM GENERALLY. LET’S WATCH HIM HERE.
>> I DON’T REALLY.
I THINK IT’S A SMALL GROUP OF
PEOPLE THAT HAVE VERY, VERY
SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
SERIOUS PROBLEMS. I GUESS IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HAPPENED IN NEW ZEALAND PERHAPS
THAT’S THE CASE.
I DON’T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT
YET.
YET. THEY’RE JUST LEARNING ABOUT THE
PERSONPEOPLE IN VOLVED.
BUT IT’S A TERRIBLE THING.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK HE PLAYS IT
DOWN?
DOWN? >> THIS IS NOTHING NEW.
THIS IS POLITICAL EXPEDIANCY.
HE WILL EXPLOIT ANYTHING TO
BENEFIT HIMSELF.
BENEFIT HIMSELF. THIS IS -- HE’S TALKING ON
BEHALF OF HIS BASE.
THIS IS WHAT THIS TERRORIST IN
NEW ZEALAND WROTE IN HIS
MANIFESTO O.
MANIFESTO O. HE SAYS TRUMP IS THE SYMBOL OF
RENEWED WHITE IDENTITY AND
COMMON PURPOSE.
COMMON PURPOSE. >>
>> >> IF SOMEBODY COMES INTO THE
COUNTRY WITHOUT PAPERS AND
KILLED SOMEBODY IN SAN
FRANCISCO, THE VICTIMS ARE ALL
ANGELS.
ANGELS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY HE DOES
THAT.
THAT. BUT IN THE CASE WHERE A WHITE
NATIONALIST KILL ALL KINDS OF
PEOPLE, IT’S LIKE IT’S AN
ISOLATED CASE OF A GUY WHO QUOTE
HAS PROBLEMS.
HAS PROBLEMS. I’M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANT.
A DANGEROUS WAY OF PHRASING IT,
I THOUGHT.
I THOUGHT. WHO KNOWS WHAUTHEWHAT HE WAS DOI
WITH THAT PHRASE.
>> AND THE RHETORIC IS IMPORTANT
COMING FROM ONE OF THE MOST
POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
HIS WORDS MATTER.
I DON’T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE
SITUATION.
SITUATION. YOU KNOW ENOUGH TO TELL THAT
IT’S WRONG.
IT’S WRONG. THIS IS WRONG.
THE KILLING OF PEOPLE IN NEW
ZEALAND IS WRONG, WHITE
SUPREMACY IS WRONG.
RIRT NOT A MATTER OF GOOD PEOPLE
ON BOTH SIDES.
AND THE RHETORIC, THE STATEMENTS
HAVE TO BE STRONGER FROM OUR
LEADERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO
ENABLE OUR LEADERS AND LET THEM
GET AWAY WITH -- THIS SHOW IS
CALLED "HARDBALL."
CALLED "HARDBALL." I SEE THIS AS WIFAL BALL, THE
STATEMENTS FROM OUR LEADERS.
HOW HARD IS IT TO REALIZE THAT?
>> WE HAVE A GLOBAL MARKET NOW
FOR HATRED.
FOR HATRED. DURING THE 2016 CAMPAIGN
CANDIDATE TRUMP REPEATEDLY
TALKED ABOUT THE THREAT FROM THE
MUSLIM COMMUNITY, HE WAS VERY
DIRECT ABOUT THIS.
BECAUSE THE FAITH ITSELF HE SAID
WAS AWFUL.
WAS AWFUL. HE THREATENED TO IMPLEMENT A BAN
ON PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY’RE
MUSLIM.
MUSLIM. >> LOOK, THERE’S SOMETHING GOING
ON, THE MUSLIMS.
THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY HAS TO HELP
US BAZ THEY’RE NOT HELPING.
THE MUSLIMS HAVE TO WORK WITH
US.
US. THEY KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MUSLIMS
AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
WE CANNOT STAND BY AND BE THE
STUPID PEOPLE WHILE OUR COUNTRY
IS DESTROYED.
IS DESTROYED. I THINK ISLAM HATES US.
THERE’S SOMETHING, THERE’S
SOMETHING THERE THAT’S A
TREMENDOUS HATRED THERE.
WE HAVE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
IT.
IT. THERE IS AN UNBELIEVABLE HATRED
OF US.
OF US. >> HOW WRONG HE IS.
THERE ARE OVER 10,000 MUSLIM
SOLDIERS SERVING IN THE UNITED
STATES ARMY THAT HAVE TAKEN THE
OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION
AND THIS COUNTRY.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF FIRST
RESPONDERS IN NEW YORK THAT
RESPONDS TO THE CALL OF DUTY
WITHOUT REGARDS TO RELIGION AND
ALL.
ALL. MUSLIMS ARE PHYSICIANS, THEY ARE
IN VARIOUS PROFESSIONS SERVING
MOST PATRIOTICALLY IN THIS
NATION.
NATION. HOW WRONG HE IS.
LIKE ON EVERY ISSUE.
HE IS A SHIP WITHOUT RUTTER.
THAT IS WHY WE SEE ALL THESE
INVESTIGATIONS, ALL THIS
CORRUPTION THAT IS COMING
TOGETHER NOW ON SURFACE SO THAT
THIS NATION KNOWS NOW WHERE WE
ARE HEADED.
ARE HEADED. MY ONLY CONCERN IS HOW WOULD WE
RECOVER FROM THIS HATE AND
DECISION?
DECISION? >> WELL, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
THAT’S THE START.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION
TO THIS COUNTRY.
YOU SEEM LIKE A GREAT GUY.
HOWARD, FIVE MINUTES FROM OUR
BUDDY HERE FROM SQUIRREL HILL.