Islam has a capability to be expansive and it also has a capability of making peace treaties
and it does and it should do whatever is in its best interest just like every country should do
ever in his best interest
in many ways we are all followers of Christ and that's another point
of commonality like we see the Messiah Jesus Christ as a man who had done wonders in miracles
and signs as the Bible states, we believe that he was immaculately conceived, we believe that
he cured the blind, he raised the dead with God's permission, we believe all, like most of the things
that you'll find, we actually believe in those things. There's huge commonalities between Islam
and Christianity from that perspective. The major difference is we would say that it's not
intelligible or conceivable or pardonable to believe any human being with a date of birth
could never be called God
and and this is where we kind of diverge from the Christian mainstream.
The attributes of God, how are they knowable? is that only through relationship with the
book? or is that also
does that also have an experiential element as far as you're concerned?
So, what I can do in fact, is I can recite for you a couple of verses from the Quran, because what
we believe is, they have, they are known through the revelation and I can recite for you, maybe
10, 20 second verses and translate for you and show you what, I think it will give you more of
a flavor of what we believe.
sure, do what you will
so the Quran says in the end of chapter 59
(recitation of holy Quran)
so let me read the translation from, because I don't want to get this wrong, right!
these two verses I think are probably the two best verses that answer your question in the Quran,
here's Allah that there is no God worthy of worship except for him, the king, the holy, the one free
from all defects, the giver of security, the watcher over his creatures, the mighty, the compeller,
the supreme, glory be to him, glory be to God, high is he above all that they associate as partners with him
he is Allah, the creator, the inventor of all things, the bestow of forms, to him belong the best names
all that is in the heavens and the earth glorify him and he is the almighty the all wise. that was the...
how about make peace, hey! so you and I we had a peaceful conversation so good for us and
hooray! and hopefully we'll have some more and I would be very much like to see you in Cambridge
or oxford and you can listen to my arguments in a more detailed manner that way and that might
address some of the philosophical concerns that you were raising.
Yeah
so I'll get an invitation out to you
well likely today, so and hopefully we'll be able to talk again and thank you very much
for agreeing to speak with me, I appreciate it and for correcting me on my miss apprehensions
thank you Dr. Jordan and you're most welcome to come and speak on my podcast as well and
as I said, a lot of traditionalist Muslims really look up to you and I think we've
actually come quite a long way in being able to build bridges to summarize really from my side
so long as today we have realized that okay, Islam is a religion not too dissimilar.
Okay, from the other previous dispensations as we would
we would see it and that there are things, there's a flesh that joins these religions and also that
peace is possible, peace is possible
well then let's see if we can be good enough people to
actually want peace.
Let's try and see what we can do.
all right man, we'll see you
I hope we see
each other in the UK and and I'd like to say hello to all the listeners and watchers of this from the
Islamic community and like let's see what we can do together man
yeah and you're invited to
anything, any mosque I think in the UK will have you, because you've already got the presence there
just name the mosque and I'll get you an invitation.
Send me a suggestion
when I send you this invitation, send me a suggestion, I don't know if I can do it on this
visit, but I'm coming back in I think March and I'd certainly, I'm certainly willing to do it
not only willing, eager and I mean that, I mean eager, I would love to be welcomed in
that manner that would be a tremendous privilege as far as I'm concerned, so
now I think you will be surprised as to the amount of acceptability that you have in particular the Muslim community
well hooray! for that, so let's try not to mock it up with foolish words
We won't
all right man, good talking to you, thanks again
thanks so much man