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Osho: If People Are Happy, Nobody Can Drag Them into a War
So do you denounce people
who are trying to make
a better future for themselves,
as well as for their children
and their children's children and so forth?
I'm speaking of people that are active
in trying to make a better environment,
like Greenpeace,
peace movements --
people that are working with
trying to make a better future
in different ways.
I understand.
Just
think, for five thousand years
this is what every generation
has been doing.
The generation that has preceded us
was thinking about us
and making a better future;
our present was their future.
What have they done?
For five thousand years
continuously every generation,
every father, every mother,
every teacher, every priest,
was creating a better future.
And the total result seems to be just the opposite.
Two things happened.
They destroyed their present.
They sacrificed,
they thought that they are martyrs,
they thought they are doing
great service to humanity.
They were doing great disservice,
because the time that was given to them --
a gift of existence --
they wasted.
And they have not been able
to create a better future.
Those five thousand years should become a lesson.
My own understanding is,
if
you are living your present totally,
out of this living,
will be born the next moment.
You have taken care of the next
moment by living this moment totally.
Just think how logic
can lead to foolish
attitudes.
The father is told that he has to
sacrifice his life for the children;
his father sacrificed his life for him.
Neither his father could live,
nor he can live,
nor are his children going to live,
because they will be sacrificing
their lives for their children.
So everybody is sacrificing
for somebody else.
Strange. Then who is going to live?
Okay.
So my insistence,
my insistence is: Live it.
And out of your living experience
the future will be born. If your living moment
is of tremendous beauty and ectasy,
naturally you are creating the future --
without any effort to create it.
But if you are sacrificing
for your children's future,
deep down
you will be
resentful --
because your life is being destroyed by these children.
And these children will be
resentful towards you,
because you were continuously
bragging that you sacrificed your life,
and you will want that your children
should to feel obliged to you.
You would like your children to
sacrifice their youth to your old age,
because you sacrificed.
This is so stupid.
I can agree on that.
And what you're talking about,
from what I understand,
is the more traditional
family relations
both in Christianity
and probably also...
Everywhere.
...all other religions.
But let me put it a little differently:
More and more people,
in Europe as well as in the United States,
I think, are getting
very worried about the situation --
the political situation --
with atomic threats,
nuclear war threats,
the environment, pollution --
things like that --
which is not the same sacrifice
from father to son and father to son
that we are now talking about.
I understand. It is just
superficially different,
basically it is the same.
The question of nuclear weapons
should not be thought of as a future problem.
It is in the present moment.
So I'm not saying that
you have to think about the future.
It is a living reality.
We are living
surrounded by nuclear weapons.
So do whatsoever you
want to do right now.
But your pacifists are
thinking about the future --
that there should not be a Third World War,
that nuclear weapons
should not be created.
Stupid. Again you are destroying
the present moment.
And the people who are creating nuclear weapons,
their logic is not different from yours --
they are also preparing for the future.
For the future
of their people,
for the future of their nation.
They don't want to be weak,
they want to be the stronger.
They want to remain in a position
that nobody can invade them.
The warmongers are
thinking of the future,
and the pacifists are
thinking of the future.
I'm neither a pacifist,
nor a supporter of war.
I'm saying let these idiots
fight with each other,
and humanity should live this moment
as joyously as possible.
If we can manage to live
in this moment peacefully,
joyously,
the Third World War
is not going to happen.
We will have not done anything about the Third World War.
If people are happy,
if people are enjoying,
nobody can
drag them into a war.
War is not
a simple phenomenon,
it is very complex.
People have to be miserable,
people have to be in suffering,
people have to be sexually repressed.
People have to be
in every possible way humiliated --
by poverty, by hunger.
Only then can you manage
to convince them
to destroy each other,
because they have nothing
to live for.
Karl Marx has a beautiful statement
in his Communist Manifesto.
I don't agree with his communism,
but
the sentence
with which the Communist Manifesto ends
is tremendously significant.
He says, "Proletariat of the world, unite,
because you have nothing to lose
and everything to gain.
Fight."
When you don't have anything to lose,
fighting becomes easier.
In fact,
there is a possibility you may win,
you may have the whole world.
But if people have
a beautiful life,
a loving life,
you cannot
convince them
that they have to destroy
other countries,
other people.
You cannot do that,
it is impossible.
Secondly,
if people are not sexually repressed --
which is the base of all wars,
every soldier has to be
sexually repressed.
It is sexual repression
which becomes
violence.
The soldiers
and the monks in the monasteries
are not in different boats.
And both have been
calamities to humanity.
The monks have been going on crusades,
killing in the name of religion --
and the soldiers in the name of nation,
in the name of culture.
But the basic thing is
that if both are allowed
to live their sex life in a relaxed way --
the monk will forget all about
the Catholic Church and the Polack pope,
and he will say, "Let them go to hell --
I'm not going for a crusade!"
He has a girlfriend,
and every moment is so beautiful.
You cannot send my people
to fight for anything.
They will say no because
they are enjoying every moment so much --
why should they disturb
their life and other people's life?
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