Hey, good evening, it's Jason from Fraser Valley rose farm. I'll respond tonight to a question
I had from a viewer about the differences between taking a cutting from your landscape or from the roses
I have in my greenhouse behind me here ones that I take
regularly for my business here and the kind that you would take from a
Bouquet Rose is the kind that you would find in a flower shop and the answer is there isn't a lot of technical difference
I would take both at the semi hardwood stage these ones by necessity because the flower is in bloom
That's basically just the stage that the stems are going to be in: they're firm, but not too firm yet
They're ready for a cutting these ones here in my landscape. I choose at exactly the same stage either
Just before or just after the Roses bloom I check and see how firm the wood is here
And if it's semi hardwood, that's a good stage to take cuttings. So
There isn't a lot of difference between them. There are a couple of key disadvantages to taking cuttings of
Stem roses of bouquet roses over taking ones from your landscape and I'll go over those towards the end of the video
But from a practical point of view of taking the cuttings, it isn't a lot of difference except for one thing
The main thing is that when I take this stem from the landscape I can choose
Everything about it
I can look around on the shrub and I can have a look at the stems and I can see exactly
What stage of growth that's in so some of when you look at the where you're taking a cutting on these?
I always take a cutting
Below a node and I'll show you a close-up of a node here. I take one below a node and I take one
Above a leaf node. So this is basically one of my cuttings here, but I can look at the condition of
the buds that are coming out here and again, I'll show you a close-up of this but if the bud on this one here is
Kind of flat to the stem or just rounded bump kind of greenish
That's a good stage to take the cutting in and if it's like this one here where the bud is kind of elongated and already
expressing and sticking out
That's not as good and I'll explain the reason here is because when you take this two things have to happen to this cutting
I'm just going to trim some leaves off here because you don't need that many leaves for a cutting
But two things have to happen it has to root and it has to shoot and it has to happen in that order
Basically, if you develop the shoots up here like this one is starting to if you develop the the shoots first
Then the roots are supposed to come later. It will actually just die in the meantime
So by the time it starts shooting you actually have to have some roots developing
So on these ones, you don't always get that choice on this one
Actually, the bud is nice and flat, but if it were sticking out
You wouldn't get much of a choice over that the second thing is again choosing these in the landscape
I can take a little bit of care to make sure I have the right stage of wood here
That it isn't too soft. It isn't too brittle on this one this stem as I pull it - there you go. It's
Thick but it was grown very soft by the grower
So that there is actually not a suitable stage for cutting if I took a bat you'd find that cutting that you'd find
It's soft and white and pithy on the inside. It's just spongy. That's not gonna make a good cutting
so
Being able to choose on the rose the right
Spot to take your cutting is the great advantage of taking cuttings from ones in your landscape
But it still can be done from these if you get a chance to select the stems in the store
So this one here is nowhere near as soft as the other one
I just showed you so I actually could probably get a good cutting from this and to take a cutting
I'm looking for a spot on the rose these top ones here these top sort of semi leaves
They're not they're not really full true leaves. I'm looking for a set of leaves
These ones here if I cut way up there
I'm not I haven't had good success that way before so I'm gonna cut just above this leaf here and
Then I'll cut below this
node here and
This isn't a good semi hardwood stage for cuttings. Once again, I mentioned that I don't like to leave a ton of leaves on
for the next step
but the next step is to
dip
In
This case rooting hormone do knock off as much powder as you can
Do you just you just have to have just a light light coating and then place the rose
into
The pot the pot is filled with just a sterile rooting media
You can use Pro mix or sunshine mix or one of the peat base mixes. I'm just using a composted wood fiber product here. So
That's nice and sterile and I'll just side by side just to repeat the process here
Do one of the cuttings from the landscape here again above a node the leaf node where the leaf comes out of the stem
at the bottom
below a node
You're really looking for enough space below that node. It might be a quarter inch might be, you know, three millimeters something like that
so just barely below that node a
Quick dip and
Into
the pot like that now this here when you're trying to get it to root and
semi hardwood cuttings will root at this stage in about three weeks or so three three to four weeks is
Usually when I can pull on them and I find out that they've started to root to the bottom or sort of to at least
Callus and start to develop young roots into the bottom of that pot
In the meantime, you have to make sure these don't dry out you're not watering to water the soil media
you're using a mist and
I'm not gonna mist with this, but you could mist by hand
What this is is this is my my tool cleaner
So to make sure I'm you working with a nice clean tool I use this disinfectant between cuts
Which I wanted to mention as well. So this here you can place that in in my case
I have automated mist on my benches
but you can place it in a
bit of a shady place someplace where it is going to dry out too quickly and mist it regularly yourself or
You can place it under a humidity tent. I personally don't prefer the humidity tent methods it's resulted in
in in more rot and less successful rooting
So I usually like to have the open air and a regular mist on it now
I mentioned that there are a couple of disadvantages to using
bouquet stems
and aside from the fact that you just can't choose the stage of your stem the way you'd like to because again,
They're grown soft. They're grown elsewhere
So you really can't tell until you get your hands on them if they have the right
Firmness to make a semi hard wood cutting the second thing is that because it came from a bouquet in many cases
you won't know what variety of that is and
Not knowing the variety is a disadvantage because all you know about this plant now is just the flower now, don't get me wrong
Knowing that it has a nice flower is a good start
But it doesn't tell you anything about the plant's growth habit doesn't tell you how healthy it isn't foliage
What size the plant is how it will grow in your garden and that's important information to know
also not knowing the variety name leaves you in a position where you actually don't know if you have the legal right to
Propagate from this plant, so I certainly wouldn't sell anything without a name and even propagating myself
I hesitate to try propagating a plant that I don't know the name of because I don't actually have a legal right it could be
a plant that's under patent protection and I don't want to go ahead and
and earn myself a bad reputation by cutting other people's plants without it being
Through the patent period or having the legal right to do so, so that's my notes on
propagating from
Bouquet stems if you have any questions on propagation at all, I made a whole other video on semi hardwood cuttings
Which you can refer to but I'm happy to take questions below this one here. Thank you so much for watching