- How to choose field guides and how to use them
for nature study.
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Welcome to The Simply Charlotte Mason Podcast,
I'm Sonya Shafer.
A good field guide can be a very helpful tool when you're
doing nature walks or nature study.
Let's talk about what to look for when you're choosing them
and how to use them.
Joining me today is my longtime friend and co creator of
Simply Charlotte Mason, Karen Smith.
Karen is my go-to person for anything that is science
and nature related, so thanks for joining us Karen.
Field guides, what are they?
Let's start there.
What is a field guide?
- A field guide is just a tool to help you identify
what you see in nature.
- Does it have to be a book?
- Does not have to be a book, there are apps out there
that are available now, you can put them on your phone.
- And those are considered field guides?
- Yes.
- Okay, so whenever I go into a bookstore or go to Amazon
and look for a field guide,
there are so many choices out there.
You can get North America and everything you might see
anywhere on the continent and you can get just your region
or you can get all the animals, or you can get just plants,
or just flowers.
How do you choose a good field guide?
- You need to choose based on what you want.
Many moms are not comfortable with getting one
that's going to have a whole lot of birds for instance
to have to look through to have to find what they--
- Yeah it's hard to narrow them down, yeah.
- So they may go with a regional one.
One that's just for their state.
By doing that, it will be very limited,
because it's only going to be what's most common
in their state.
So you take the chance of not being able
to identify something that might or might not be
in your field guide.
- [Sonya] Okay.
- So it's a good place to start,
but once you gain experience I do recommend
that you move to something that is
Birds of The Eastern U.S., for instance.
So you have a broader pool to choose from.
- So you wouldn't jump all the way to the whole continent
you could do just the eastern or just Midwest or something,
okay I got it.
- And ones that are specific to that nature item,
birds, mammals, wildflowers for instance,
are going to give you more options for identifying
than ones that are more general that have birds and trees
and insects or whatever all in the same one.
- Okay, okay.
So once you choose a good field guide,
how do you use the thing?
Do you haul it with you out into the field
and say, "Okay there's a bird, hang on, hang on,
I'm looking, I'm looking."
I mean how do you use these things?
For birds it's probably better to take a picture.
- Okay.
- With your phone or if you have a camera with you,
and then you can look through your field guide later.
Because they don't stay still.
- They don't.
- For things like wildflowers or trees,
you can take your field guide with you to help you identify
while you're there because they don't move.
- That's true.
- So there are different ways you can do it.
Depending on what field guide you have,
you're going to look through the pictures
and find the one that is closest to what you saw.
- Okay, now there's a question,
because I've seen some field guides that have illustrations,
drawn pictures and other field guides that have photographs.
Which is better?
- I prefer photographs because illustrations
are an artist's perception of what that looks like,
which is great for your nature journal,
but not so great when you're trying to identify something.
A photograph will show you all the features of the bird,
not just what the artist put in there.
- That makes sense, that makes sense.
Now, what are some of your favorite field guides?
Can you share some specific ones
and maybe why they are your favorites?
- I will share with you not specific to the nature item,
but the brands if you will that I like.
- Audubon is very easy to use.
It's probably one of my favorites,
especially for beginners because you have
in the beginning color photographs of everything
that's in the book.
So you can very easily browse through the photos,
find what you're looking for,
and then it will tell you what page to go to in the book
to find out more information.
- So the photos are all kinda collected
and you don't have to leaf through the whole book, nice.
- Then Princeton University--
- Let me ask you this first, I'm sorry,
you said Audubon and as soon as you say
Audubon I think birds, is Audubon only birds?
- No.
Audubon has field guilds for just
about everything imaginable in nature.
- Wow, okay.
- Birds, butterflies, wildflowers, mammals, rocks, fossils.
- Wow.
- Reptiles and amphibians, even fish.
- Okay, all right so you got
the whole spectrum with Audubon.
What's another brand of field guides?
- Princeton University are very good ones.
They have many photographs in them.
So birds for instance, you don't just get one picture
of the bird, many times you'll have a picture
of the male bird and the female bird and perhaps even one
that is an immature bird or a juvenile.
- How handy.
- So it helps you to identify.
Sometimes the juveniles don't look like the adults.
- Yes!
And then you're stuck.
Okay, that's the Princeton University ones, nice.
- Then National Wildlife Federation also has some very
nice ones with photographs.
And along the same lines as the Princeton University,
they'll have several different pictures
of what you're trying to identify.
So kinda helps you narrow it down a little easier.
- How long have you been using field guides?
- About 35 or 40 years.
- Okay, thank you for passing along your wisdom to us
I appreciate this.
Now are there any apps that you would recommend?
You said that you could use apps as field guides.
- Yes.
- Some that are really good?
- Ones that I'm aware of, Audubon has some
that are very good,
they're set up similarly to their book ones.
- And that's for the wide range that we talked about before,
not just birds?
- They don't have as many in the apps.
- But they have more than just birds?
- Yes, a few more than that.
- Nice.
- Then there's one called Merlin
that will help you identify birds.
- Now that sounds like the book that you were talking
about earlier that you gave to me called,
All About Backyard Birds.
And down here it's says, a free Merlin bird ID app
goes with it.
How do those work together?
- This will allow you to find the bird.
- [Sonya] Mm-hmm.
- And then there's a little QR code that you can take
a picture of with your phone and then that will open the app
and then it will give you more options.
On the app there are the bird songs,
so you can listen to them.
Many times identifying a bird you have to be able
to hear it's song and it's very important
in identifying birds because you won't see them
if you don't hear them.
- That's true, that's true.
And so often I hear them but I don't know
what I'm listening to.
- Yes, and if you know what you're listening to,
it'll make it easier to help identify which--
- So that's how the book and the app can work together.
- Yes.
- Now I noticed there were a couple of other books
that you mentioned, but they're not field guides,
is that correct?
- Yes.
- The ones on trees?
This one, we have lots of field guides here to play with.
This one, The Tree Identification Book,
I know my husband got one of these,
but you don't consider this a field guide.
- No.
- What is this called?
- This is more of a key to help, steps you through
and helps you identify what you are looking at again,
but it will start with ... questions for you to answer
and to go through.
- So it walks you through the steps.
- It will walk you through the steps of identifying.
This one has actual photographs.
- Oh, black and white photographs,
they're very detailed.
- And it has photographs of the leaves, the twigs,
the fruit, the bark to help you identify trees
in any season.
- So you go through and you say,
"Okay, this is what the leaf looks like,"
and then it'll tell you, all right now go here
and identify this and as it walks you through at the end,
ta-da, this is what you're looking at.
- Exactly.
- Nice. Now that's a big book to take with us in the field.
- Yes.
- You have a little one here.
- I have a little one.
- Called Tree Finder.
- This one is more portable to take with you.
- [Sonya] Yes.
- Similar concept, but this one just has little drawings
in it, but again will step you through.
Doesn't have this, doesn't have that,
go here if it has this, go here if it has that,
and will just keep stepping you through until you get
to the name of whatever it is you're looking at.
- Now this book has a special history with you doesn't it?
- I've used this book since sixth grade.
- (laughing) Not that particular copy though.
- Not this particular copy.
But this tree finder, since sixth grade.
I learned how to use it in sixth grade.
- Sixth grade was a wonderful nature year for you.
- Oh it was wonderful.
- What did you do in sixth grade?
Tell everybody.
- I was one of the, there were 120 students
in our public school system who were chosen to go
to either the city zoo or the nature center
for their sixth year class of schooling.
I went to the nature center
and we learned all sorts of things.
- You went there how often?
- For the full year, that was our year of school.
We raised chicken on the farm that the nature center had.
We learned to identify the trees,
some of them by their bark, many of them by their leaves.
We learned all sorts of thing that you can learn
at a nature study.
The nature center has a pond, forest, fields, everything.
So we spent the whole year pretty much out in nature,
drawing wildflowers, learning about frogs and toads
and trees and anything that was
on the nature center grounds.
- So ever since then, that love of nature has kept going
and field guides, you probably know most
of what's in field guides by now.
Do you even use them anymore?
- Yes I do.
- Do you?
- I still come across things that I do not know
what they are and I have to go grab a field guide
so I can look it up, yes.
- That's wonderful, thanks for sharing your knowledge
of field guides with us.
I hope that it makes everybody's nature studies
and nature walks a little more comfortable.
- Yes.
- That they feel like they can find the answers
to what they're looking for as well.
Thanks so much.
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