SHANNON.
>> Shannon: TRACE GALLAGHER
LIVE IN A LAKE THANK YOU.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVING THE
BORDER WALL IN CALIFORNIA AND
SAYS HE IS GOING TO TAKE ON THE
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.
CALIFORNIA LEADERS, YOU HEARD
TREY SAY, SUE OVER HIS NOSE
POLICY ANNOUNCEMENT, SO LET'S
DEBATE WITH A COUPLE OF OUR
FAVORITE WEST COASTERS, HOST OF
LEFT COAST NEWS, ETHAN BEARMAN,
AND HOST OF THE NEXT REVOLUTION
RIGHT HERE ON FOX NEWS, D, BOTH
TURNING HIS LIFE.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU GENTLEMEN.
>> HI, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: OKAY, SO THERE IS
A LOT THERE.
LET'S START WITH THE
HOMELESSNESS ISSUE.
HERE IS WHAT -- ABOUT THE FED
GETTING INVOLVED AT THE STATE
AND LOCAL OFFICIALS DON'T GET IT
UNDER CONTROL.
>> IF THESE DEMOCRAT LIBERAL
POLITICIANS DON'T STRAIGHTEN IT
OUT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL
HAVE TO COME IN.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE CITIES
LIKE LOS ANGELES, TIMBER CISCO,
AND OTHERS THAT ARE GREAT
CITIES, WE ARE NOT GOING TO
ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN TO OUR
CITIES.
>> Shannon: STATE OFFICIALS
THERE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT NEWS
VERY WELL.
>> WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT IT
DOES IS SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON
THEIR FAILURE, AND IT'S A
FAILURE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IF YOU HAVE BEN CARSON THERE --
HE WAS MET BY PROTESTERS.
SOME OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS
SLOGANS I'VE EVER HEARD.
I JUST WANT TO REDO WHAT THEY
WERE SAYING.
YOU ARE TO BLAME, MAKING PEOPLE
HOMELESS IS YOUR GAME.
DR. CARSON, IT'S NO LIE, YOU'RE
THE REASON WE SLEEP OUTSIDE.
THAT IS SO STUPID.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN GOING
ON IN CALIFORNIA FOR YEARS, THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE FOR
SLEEPING ON THE STREETS, BOTH
SUFFERING AND CAUSING SO MANY
PROBLEMS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF
THEM EITHER HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
PROBLEMS OR DRUG ADDICTION OR
BOTH AND IT'S THE FAILURE OF THE
AUTHORITIES IN THIS STATE, STATE
AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, TO ACTUALLY
DEAL WITH THAT IN A DIRECT WAY,
TO SAY IF YOU'VE GOT MENTAL
HEALTH PROBLEMS AND ARE SLEEPING
ON THE STREET, WE NEED TO PUT
YOU INTO TREATMENT.
IF YOU'VE GOT DRUG ADDICTION
PROBLEMS, WE NEED TO FORCE YOU
TO GO INTO REHAB.
YOU CAN'T BE OUT THERE SLEEPING
ON THE STREET, BUT THEY HAVE
REFUSED TO DO THAT AND NOW
FINALLY THERE IS SOME
ACCOUNTABILITY COMING AND THAT'S
WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE, NO WONDER
THEY ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
>> Shannon: SOMEONE ELSE
COMPLAINING IS A BUSINESS OWNER
OUT THERE IN CALIFORNIA WHO SAYS
HE IS CONSIDERING CLOSING DOWN
BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM.
IT IS WHAT HE TOLD OUR OWN
TUCKER CARLSON.
>> WE TRIED TO CALL THE POLICE
TO HAVE THEM INTERVENE AND
ARREST THEM AND IN THE PROCESS
HE DECIDED TO BITE ME IN ONE OF
THE STATEMENTS HE MADE WAS WHY
ARE YOU IN CALLING THE POLICE,
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO
ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO
LET ME GO.
>> Shannon: WHAT ABOUT THAT
PROBLEM?
>> IS HORRIBLE AND I HATE TO SEE
THAT HAPPEN AT ALL AND PEOPLE DO
GET ATTACKED SOMETIMES AND IT'S
TERRIBLE THAT WE DON'T TAKE THE
TIME TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN
VISIBLE HOMELESS AND THE
INVISIBLE HOMELESS.
AT WHAT STEVE WAS REFERRING TO,
AND WHAT THAT BUSINESS ARE DEALT
WITH OR WHAT WE CALL THE VISIBLE
HOMELESS, THOSE WHO ARE OUT IN
OUR PATHS, THEY ARE BLOCKING
SIDEWALKS, THEY HAVE MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES AND WE FINALLY
COME AFTER 50 YEARS OF COURT
RULINGS THAT HAVE TIED THE HANDS
OF CITY AND STATE LEADERS HERE
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, HAVE
STARTED TO FINALLY MAKE SOME
PROGRESS WITH NEW
CONSERVATORSHIP RULES.
WE TRY TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING
CRISIS THAT DR. BEN CARSON HAS
SO FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG.
IT'S ACTUALLY MARKET PROBLEM,
OVER 3 MILLION UNITS OF HOUSING
SHORT, WHICH THE FEDS COULD HELP
WITH AS OPPOSED TO RAISING THE
PRICE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE ON
SECTION 8 VOUCHERS HAVE TO
CONTRIBUTE, WHICH IS WHAT
DR. CARSON HAS PROPOSED.
WE NEED TO BE HELPING THESE
PEOPLE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
CAN HELP IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
WAYS, BUT YOU DO MEAN TO
DEMONIZE, TO COMPLAIN, 50 YEARS
OF BAD POLICIES AND MISSPENT
MONEY HAD ABSOLUTELY CONTRIBUTED
TO THE PROBLEM BUT WE HAVE
LEADERS WERE FINALLY TRYING TO
ADDRESS IT AND WE COULD USE SOME
POSITIVE HELP FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
>> Shannon: STEVE, YOUR
RESPONSE?
>> SORRY.
ETHAN, WE KNOW EACH OTHER, I'D
LIKE YOU VERY MUCH, BUT THAT IS
COMPLETELY WRONG.
THE LEADERS ARE NOT ADDRESSING
THE PROBLEM.
IF THE PROBLEM IS GETTING WORSE,
NOT BETTER.
THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, NOT
DOWN.
THEIR HANDS HAVEN'T BEEN TIED IN
THIS RESPECT, THEY HAVE BEEN
TIED BY THEIR FAILURE TO
CONFRONT PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY,
WHICH SAYS WE ARE NOT GOING TO
CONFRONT THESE PROBLEMS --
>> THE COURT RULINGS THAT TIE
THEM DOWN.
>> THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
IN NEW YORK, FOR EXAMPLE.
>> THAT IS CORRECT, I CAN CITE
YOU THE CASES AGAINST THE CITY
OF LOS ANGELES.
THE CITY OF BOISE AND THE
NINTH CIRCUIT.
THOSE ARE FEDERAL CASES THAT
ACTUALLY TELL THE CITIES THEY
CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS UNTIL
THEY ADDRESS THINGS LIKE HOUSIN
HOUSING.
>> WHY CAN THEY DO IT IN
NEW YORK?
WHY CAN THEY DO IT IN NEW YORK?
>> BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE
NINTH CIRCUIT'S OF THOSE COURTS
ARE IN THIS AREA, THAT'S WHAT
THE LAW WORKS.
>> Shannon: STEVE, GET UP THAT
SENTENCE ABOUT THE 95% SO WE CAN
HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> 95% OF PEOPLE IN NEW YORK WHO
DON'T HAVE HOUSING AND SHELTER
ARE IN ACCOMMODATION -- THEY ARE
NOT SLEEPING ON THE STREETS IN
CALIFORNIA IS 25%.
THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING WORSE
AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THESE
LEADERS IN THE STATE AND LOCAL
LEVEL IN CALIFORNIA JUST WON'T
STAND UP TO THE LIBERAL
PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY BUT SAYS WE
ARE GOING TO BE SOFT AND
HANDS-OFF ABOUT THIS TERRIBLE
PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, NEVER MIND
A HUMAN CRISIS AND THE PEOPLE
AFFECTED.
>> Shannon: WILL AGREE IT IS A