THEY
THEY ARE
THEY ARE EXPECTED TO SURVIVE. REESE?
REESE?
REESE? >>> ALL RIGHT, THANKS TONY.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT
WHY THESE PROTESTS4@ ARE
HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. NOT 4@ENOUGH OF THAT
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION. JOINING US TO DISCUSS IS 4@DR.
MICHAEL FAUNTLEROY.
MICHAEL FAUNTLEROY. HE HAS WRITTEN MULTIPLE BOOKS
ON JOSH POLITICAL ISSUES AND
HIS MO4@ST RECENT OP-ED AFTER T
UPRISINGS, WHAT HAPPENS TO
RACISM AND POLICE AFTER 4@THE
GEORGE FLOYD PROTESTS CAN BE
FOUND IN THE "NEW YORK DAILY
NEWS."
NEWS."
NEWS." FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU FOR
WAKI4@NG UP SO EARLY WITH US.
I KNOW IT'S NO SMALL FEAT.
YOU SAID THAT POLITICAL
DECISIONS HAS 4@LED TO OFFICERS
NOT FACING JUSTICE FOR
MI4@STREATMENT 4@OF CITIZENS, C
YOU EXPLAIN?
YOU EXPLAIN? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. SO AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF 4@LOCAL AND STA
STATUTES THAT LITERALLY HOLD 4@
HARMLESS POLICE OFFICERS AROUND
THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. IN FACT, POLICE IN AMERICA
SHOOT AND KILL ABOUT NEARLY
1,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.
AND FEWER THAN 1% OF POLICE
OFFICERS ARE 4@EVER CONVICTED O
ANY OF THESE INCIDENTS.
AND WHAT WE KNOW IS 4@THAT IF Y
ARE A POLICE OFFICER, AND YOU
CAN KILL SOMEBODY ON THE JOB,4@
AND NOT FACE A CHARGE OR NOT BE
CONVICTED, THEN IT REALLY DOES @
REMOVE ANY REAL ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
AND SO FROM A PUBLIC POLICY
STANDPOINT, WHAT 4@I'D LIKE TO
SEE IS A CHANGE IN THE KIND OF
ACCOUNTABILITY THAT POLICE
OFFICERS FACE.
OFFICERS FACE. I THINK IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN
WE CAN GET TO A PLACE 4@WHERE Y
CAN BUILD TRUST BETWEEN
COMMUNITIES.
COMMUNITIES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING
ON AROUND THE COUNTRY, JUST
THINK ABOUT THE NAMES THAT
WE'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS.
AND HOW FEW 4@CHARGES OR
CONVICTIONS WE'VE SEEN AS A
RESULT OF THAT ACTION.
AND IN AMERICA, TOO MANY PLACES
IN AMERICA, A POLICE OFFICER
CAN KILL A BLACK 4@MAN FOR
VIRTUALLY ANY REASON.
AND IF HE OR SHE SAYS I FELT
THREATENED FOR MY LIFE.
THERE'S NOT A JURY IN THE
COUNTRY 4@THAT'S GOING TO
CONVICT.
CONVICT.
CONVICT. >> I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET
HOW LITTLE CONVERSATION IS
BEING HAD ABOUT THIS AND HOW
4@ IT'S ABOUT THE 4@PROTESTERS AND
HOW THE PROTESTERS ARE GOING
ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS.
HOW DO 4@YOU THINK THE PRESIDEN
VIEWS 4@THESE PROTESTS WITH
RESPECT TO HIS RE-ELECTION?
IS IT USEFUL FOR HIM?
>> I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS
PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
YOU LOVE THE PROTESTS AND 4@
SEEING THE PEOPLE IN THE STREET
ARGUING THEIR CASE FOR CHANGE.
THE LOOTING ACTUALLY IS THE
REAL PROBLEM FROM4@ A SORT OF
POLICY STANDPOINT AND POLITICAL
REAL PROBLEM FROM4@ A SORT OF POLICY STANDPOINT AND POLITICAL@
STANDPOINT.
STANDPOINT. BECAUSE IT PROVIDES COVER AND A
DIVERSION FOR EVERYBODY THAT
WANTS TO DEFEND THE STATUS QUO.
SO THE PRESIDENT CAN NOW MAKE
THE 4@CASE -- THE STORY 4@ABOUT
LOOTERS.
LOOTERS.
LOOTERS. RATHER THAN 4@ACTUALLY ABOUT
POLICE MISCONDUCT.
POLICE MISCONDUCT. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS
A SHIFT FROM PROTESTS TO
POLITICS SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN
TO DEAL WITH SOME 4@OF THESE
SERIOUS AND DEEPLY ENTRENCHED
ISSUES.
ISSUES.
ISSUES. AS LONG AS 4@THE PROTESTS ARE
GOING ON W4@E'RE NOT GOING TO B
ABLE TO DO THAT.
THOSE WILL CONTINUE TO POINT TO
THE PROTESTS.
THE PROTESTS. >> LET'S CONTINUE THAT.
HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT SHIFT
FROM PROTEST TO 4@POLITICS? 4@
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR
PRESCRIPTION?
PRESCRIPTION? >> WELL, I THINK THE FIRST
THING WE NEED TO DO IS KEEP IN
MIND THAT CHANGE TAKES TIME AND
THAT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO
CHANGE THE POLICIES, YOU HAVE4@
TO DEAL WITH THE POLITICS THAT
ARE UNDERLYING THAT.
SO I'D SORT OF FRAME IT LIKE
THIS.
THIS.
THIS. POLITICS RESULTS IN POLICIES
THAT IMPACT PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE 4@
POLICIES, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE
THE POLITICS THAT UNDERLIE
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. AND
THAT. AND THAT LEADS US ALL TO
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. YOU KNOW, DEMOCRACY IS MESSY
AND IT TAKES TIME AND IT'S SLOW
AND IT MAKES US IMPAIRMENT BUT
THE REALITY IS ELECTIONS ARE
HELD TO PUT THE PEOPLE IN PLACE
THAT SET THE POLICIES THAT
IMPACT THE PEOPLE.
FOR ME IT ALWAYS BEGINS AT THE
BALLOT BOX.
BALLOT BOX. NOT JUST IN THE NEXT ELECTION,
BUT IN EVER4@Y SUBSEQUENT
ELECTION AND I'D LIKE TO SEE
PEOPLE FOCUS ON BEING MORE
DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE
POLITICAL PROCESS AND PAYING
MORE ATTENTION TO PEOPLE WHO
RUN FOR OFFICE AND VOTING FOR
THEIR INTEREST.
THEIR INTEREST. 4@
THEIR INTEREST. >> I'M GOING TO TALK IN MY
FINAL THOUGHT LATER TODAY WE
JUST MENTIONED THAT.
THE LAST SEGMENT.
BUT I HAVE TO LET YOU WEIGH IN.
CAN YOU GET PAST THE SYMBOLISM
OF THE PRESIDENT GASSING
PEACEFUL PROTESTERS SO HE COULD
SET UP A PHOTO-OP IN 4@FRONT OF
CHURCH WITH A BIBLE?
>> SO WE'VE KIND OF BEEN HERE
BEFORE.
BEFORE.
BEFORE. RIGHT?
RIGHT?
RIGHT? IF
RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT -- YOU KNOW, I
THINK 2020 IS LINING UP A LOT
LIKE 1968.
LIKE 1968. ALL RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT? WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP PLAYING
THE ROLE OF RICHARD NIXON WHO
IN 1968 WAS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT ON 4@A LAW AND ORDER
PLATFORM.
PLATFORM.
PLATFORM. I THINK THAT'S WHERE PRESIDENT
TRUMP ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY
ESSENTIALLY THAT HE'S NOW A LAW
AND ORDER PRESIDENT AND THE
PHOTO-OP THAT WE SAW YESTERDAY
FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME, WHOSE
FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THE CITY
SINCE THE 1890s AND USED TO
RIDE ON THE 80 BUS ACROSS TOWN
IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND
HAVE BEEN TO LAFAYETTE PARK AND
STOOD IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
MY HEART WAS BROKEN YESTERDAY.
MAN I GOT TO TELL YOU.
4@ BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES 4@NO SENS
TO USE INNOCENT PEOPLE AND TO
USE POLICE TO ENGAGE IN
POLITICS.
POLITICS.
POLITICS. AND PHOTO-OPS.
AND PHOTO-OPS. AN4@D I THINK HISTORY IS GOING
JU4@DGE PRESIDENT TRUMP VERY
HARSHLY FOR THIS.
BUT HE DOESN'T CARE.
I THINK HE JUST PRETTY MUCH IS
FOCUSED ON HIS RE-ELECTION.
BUT WHAT I 4@SAW YESTERDAY WAS
HEART-BREAKING.
HEART-BREAKING. >> ALL RIGHT, DR. FAUNTLEROY.
THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR
JOINING US AND MAKE SURE YOU
CHECK OUT THE OP-ED AT THE "NEW
YORK DAILY NEWS" MAN.
I HAVE TO CATCH YOU AT A ST.
ALBANS FOOTBALL GAME.