- I love Logitech mice.
I've got some at home.
I've got one at my office.
I've actually got the smaller or older version of this guy
but I absolutely hate their keyboards.
I'm just not a big fan.
I don't like their switches.
I don't like the ROMER-Gs.
They also don't end up making anything stylistically
that I'm really big on.
But, they've got this really cool MX mechanical line
that goes with the MX Master stuff.
And we're gonna check it out today
and to see if Logitech has finally won my heart.
I don't think they have, but you never know.
I'm gonna start with the MX Master 3S.
I've got a Master 3 upstairs.
It is my preferred mouse
for like any kind of work, not gaming
but if you've got spreadsheets or anything to deal with
holy crap, these things are just absolutely fantastic.
They've got this little side scroll wheel on the side
and I know you can hold like control
or alt alter something to turn
the normal scroll wheel into a sideways one.
But I don't want to do that.
I just want to use my thumb.
That's just sitting there anyway.
Other than that, it's wireless.
It's got some extra buttons on the side and on the top.
Oh, okay.
So here's the two differences with this one and the old one.
This one's the ultimate productivity
now with quiet click and track on glass 8K DPI sensor.
That's pretty sweet.
I don't know how much I actually need
that for productivity mouse,
but we'll open it.
What do we got?
Yeah, that's an MX Master all right.
Okay, cool. Here's the dongle.
Yeah. That's your mouse.
I guess my one complaint is that I can already
tell this cable is a little short for a mouse cable.
That's really
I know it's wireless.
I know you're supposed to use it wireless
but even my one upstairs is wired.
I just don't like wireless tech.
I avoid it because I worry
that it's going to not work on me all of a sudden.
That being said,
all of my problems might actually be resolved
because it's got the Logi Bolt, USB receiver.
Do you pronounce it Loggy at that point?
Logi. Logi tech.
(laughing)
- [Jono] Loki?
- [Nicholas] but it's also got Bluetooth
for low energy technology,
is how they're labeling it.
Ooh, that's pretty cool.
So yeah, maybe it's actually better
but either way I would still prefer a longer
wired cable just in case you can't.
And that's got a bunch of directions on the bottom here
and that just peels off to reveal everything else.
So there's also one thing that I've totally
done wrong with this.
Even if it's plugged in, you still have
to flick it to the on position.
This little switch here.
Otherwise your mouse just doesn't read
and it's really annoying trying
to figure out what's going on.
And yeah, you can set it
to three different devices.
Number one's blinking right now
but there's two and three too.
And yeah. Other than that it's.
Oh, the clicks are quiet!
(mouse clicking)
- [David] Oh, wow.
- Yeah. You can't even hear that, huh?
- [David] No.
- Yeah My real problem with a lot of quiet click
stuff is it actually doesn't feel that great.
It feels kind of mushy and it's not perfect
but, it still feels pretty good.
Like, I actually really kind of want this thing now.
I kind of want to upgrade
But for comparison.
(mouse clicking)
But, okay.
Let's just remember though, this is a gaming mouse
and it's not really made to be quiet.
Although.
(mouse clicking)
I guess mouse clicks aren't usually detected
by headsets if someone's actually
set up their noise gate properly.
let's try the keyboards though.
This is what I'm really excited for.
It's the MX mechanical mini
and the MX mechanical.
So this is like a full size keyboard.
And this looks like a 60% roughly.
I like the look though,
so let's open them up.
They come in three different switches.
Kind of the same thing that you see
from every other site is linear, tactile, and clicky.
I don't think it's hot swap
which already has me a little upset,
but you know, it's okay.
A lot of people don't need hot swap
or they think they don't need hot swap
and that's okay too.
So like a lot of other Logitech projects
they've got this just sort of diagram here
that tells you like there's an on and off switch.
If you're using Logi Bolt
you do this to change the function of it.
If you're using Bluetooth,
you do this to change whatever.
It's got the easy switch stuff.
That's it though.
I'm surprised there's not more.
There's nothing else in the box.
It's pretty light.
I like that they're using paper and not plastic.
A lot of this stuff is recycled material.
It's about 47% on the mini
and then about 45% on the full keyboard.
So if you care about the environment and stuff,
at least to the point where you want
people to recycle things,
then this could help sway your opinion a little bit.
(keyboard clicking)
This is the tactile I think?
Should say on it somewhere.
So that's why I guess we got these ones
in the full production packaging.
These are both the tactile quiet boxes.
So I don't know why they
say this on the website too.
It's like linear, tactile, quiet and clicky.
I don't understand like, either just call
it tactile or call the clicky tactile loud.
I don't know. That's a minor annoyance.
It doesn't really matter all that much.
Let's see how long the cable is,
because I have similar concerns with this guy.
Yeah. It's about the same length as the cable that came
with our mouse, which looks like about a meter
or roughly three feet for any imperialist out there.
So this one's the clicky.
(keyboard clicking)
Oh yeah. That's obviously clicky.
- [Jono] Do you love that sound?
- [Nicholas] Hate it so much.
This isn't the worst clicky
but I'm still just not crazy about it.
It's not just the sound.
Clickys I find also feel different from tactiles
even though they're like the same.
Maybe it's like an auditory thing where I hear the click
and so it makes me feel an extra press or something
but this is the tactile, I think.
(keyboard clicking)
Yeah, cause these are linear.
Then this is the linear.
So these are really a lot like cherry Browns
and that there's not a huge bump in them.
So if you want like that really obviously tactile switch.
These might not necessarily be for you.
But if you like the really minimalist kind of feel
of a cherry brown tactile bump,
then you might like this.
They've got these super thin
almost like chicklet style key caps.
So you've got a really low profile board
which is kind of nice.
It's got feet on the back.
Love feet. They're great.
What's that say? Eight degree, eight degrees.
I actually really like that.
It tells you the degree of incline.
There's only one adjustment it's either on or off.
So no degree angle or eight degree angle
whatever you want to do, I guess.
Those have a bunch of rubber
on the bottom and then there's rubber on the front here
so that it's not gonna slide around too much.
I mean I can push it there no problem,
but it really isn't gonna go anywhere.
What do you guys prefer?
Let us know in the comments
The big boy.
I need a wireless keyboard.
It needs to be full size
and it needs to work across several devices.
That's like the most common request I get when
people are asking me for stuff.
They don't all care about hot swap,
but they really do need all their keys
and I get that.
I like using a full size at home,
but the problem with Logitech is
I just can't usually recommend it
cause I hate Roamer-Gs and most people don't care,
but those that do, really care.
So here it is.
It's basically all the same stuff that's in the mini box.
So we're not gonna do that again.
You've got a USB-C port right up there.
So it does do detachable cables, which is great.
And then there's a switch up here on or off.
That's your power switch
if you're gonna go wireless.
And as soon as I turn that on this guy's flashing
and the green light won't turn off, but hay, it comes on
for a quick little second here.
Oh, that's great!
So you can go with device one, device two, device three.
You probably need to hit control
or something to actually change it.
Or it's just confused and stuck on that one right now
because we don't have it plugged into anything.
Other than that, I mean, it's fine.
It flexes a little bit.
It's aluminum top plate on here.
And I actually do like that.
You can see that it's like a pretty
nice solid piece of aluminum on the top.
And then what I wanna see are these switches.
Yeah. These are the Browns.
So it looks like they've gone with this circular design
which is kind of neat.
I actually haven't really seen that.
I've only seen like a box or just a regular cross stem.
And they're super thin.
Very low profile for all of you
low profile nuts out there.
Since it's not hot swap,
for the average person, at least,
I probably wouldn't bother opening this.
I mean you can, if you want and you can probably foam it
or pad it or something to improve it a little bit.
Let's check out the other.
Here we go.
The linear and the clickys use real quick.
I should have said real click.
Okay. So here's our tactile.
(keyboard clicking)
This is our linear.
Here's our clicky.
(keyboard clicking)
See, this feels smooth,
but like, I don't like where it starts to actuate.
It feels like you have to put a
little more force than you should.
Maybe I'm just used to really light linears.
(keyboard clicking)
But either way something about this.
The linear itself doesn't feel great.
I think the tactiles are fine.
And I think the clickys, even though I don't like clickys
I think that these are a fine clicky,
but yeah the linear, I'm just not big on it.
Something about it doesn't feel right
and I don't know what.
(keyboard clicking)
Something feels weird, right?
- I think you're right.
It does feel different, but you know why?
I'm so used to linears with kind of a cup
- Oh
- Key cap.
- You think it's the chicklet style stuff?
- Yeah.
- [Nicholas] You heard it here first folks.
The key cap suck.
- [Jono] They don't suck.
(laughing)
- So, as you can see
even the key caps are just like cherry cross.
So any key caps you get should really work with it.
As long as they're not like overly big
or something and they don't fit on the keyboard itself.
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Cool. Well it works.
Yeah. Literally all we did was plug in the Logi Bolt.
That's just a really cool word, I guess
for their USB dongle.
I've got two plugged in right now
just in case it didn't work,
But I wanna see
if you can run multiple devices
off of one Logi Bolt.
- [Jono] I think you have to download the software.
- Yeah okay. Because the mouse instantly stopped working.
Oh. So I can add or remove a unifying device.
I can add or remove, and that's
with some other symbol that I've never seen,
but then, oh I think that's the old symbol,
so I have seen that.
I just never paid attention to it.
And then add or remove a bolt device.
Pair up to six compatible wireless mice
and keyboards to a single Logitech bolt receiver.
Oh that's cool.
- [Speaker] Oh yeah! - [Nicholas] Yeah.
You can actually do six on the old ones too.
I didn't know that.
Oh, it's got like a whole extra window.
I actually don't know how much I like this though.
Like, why couldn't I just get Logi Bolt from Logitech?
I had to go to options, download options,
and then go to add removed devices
and get the Logi Bolt stuff.
And then now it's opened, it installed a second program
and now it's opening a wholly entirely different window too,
so I don't understand why they can't just have it all
in one single app.
One thing I like is that it's automatically
detecting the two devices I have right now
and it's telling me their power level and stuff,
so that's really cool.
The mechanical keyboard
It's a 1500 million amp hour battery, which is quite a bit
but it can do either 15 days on a full charge
or 10 months if you don't have the backlight enabled,
but take that with a grain of salt.
It's not gonna be a full 10 days.
I highly doubt it's like 10 days
multiply by 24.
They're probably going like 10, you know
eight hour days or whatever you're looking at.
If you're in a hurry, a 15 minute charge is
going to give you about eight hours of performance.
I think it's like they say a full day,
so, you know, expect like eight to 10 hours or whatever.
Let me unplug one of these now.
Okay. So luckily I'm on a laptop
even though the mouse just died.
What I can do is add new device.
Bluetooth is on.
I want to do MX mechanical.
Searching for devices. Long press to connect.
Long press.
One device found. Connect.
Verify your device.
click right
click left
click both left and right.
Wow. They really save a doozy for you at the end.
Okay, cool.
So now I should have both of them paired
on a single Logi Bolt receiver or USB dongle.
Let's see if the keyboard still works.
It says it's still there listed as a device.
Hay!
(keyboard clicking)
Okay. So that's actually really cool.
All right, sure.
Let's try and pair the mini.
So turn it on.
Oh, it's already.
Yeah. It already found it.
Type the following numbers.
7, 6, 7,
8,
7,
4
enter
Hooray! Device connected.
I like how it's like a lady
and her hands are up like so she's so stoked.
She's so stoked that her stuff connected
because that's how frustrating it can be when you're dealing
with wireless tech sometimes.
Yeah. Using the most feels great.
It feels very comfortable to me
because I already use an MX Master 3.
I think the difference
between the 2 and the 3 isn't much
they just kind of change this wing here
and then the buttons a little bit.
So if you're going from a two up to this guy
it might feel a little different at first,
but other than that, that's pretty much it.
I mean, even this all it's got really is the better sensor
and the quiet click stuff, which is pretty cool
but not necessarily needed for me personally.
So I'm just gonna stick with the MX Master 3,
but if you don't have one yet really good revision.
(keyboard clicking)
126, 99%. Very cool.
Like I said before,
it's actually hard to find wireless
full mechanical keyboards that are feature rich
like this one is.
If you had to guess how much do you think this should be?
Well, you're not gonna have to guess it's $170
for the full thing.
And I know that you can get a full keyboard
that's wireless from Keychron for like, not 170.
That being said,
that Logi Bolt receiver was actually really cool.
Pairing stuff was crazy easy.
Like, I hate that.
I never get wireless anything because I hate pairing devices
and it actually just worked really, really well.
So I don't have to add devices or anything.
We just installed this
and it's already showing the two that I have up.
Oh. And if I mouse over, it's got the third one.
It's already got all three products that we have connected.
Oh. And I like how it says good afternoon.
(laughing)
It's you know, it's really small
like, personal touches like that
that I actually love from companies.
Dictation and emoji.
Where's the emoji button? F6.
Emojis! Oh my God.
Okay. So that worked.
Wow. Emoji's at your fingertips.
Smart back lighting.
Cool. So like F3.
I want to turn the back lighting up.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. So it gets to like a respectable level of brightness.
It's not crazy bright.
I don't even think this is full RGB.
Because I don't think RGB would fit this
to be perfectly honest.
I like the white light with the gray and easy switch.
Yep. So this will tell you which devices it should go to
which is pretty cool.
Oh, there's like a pointer speed.
And you can change it from 50 to 100.
I don't know why it's like that,
but I don't like it.
As soon as you change it to the sensor range to 8K DPI
it gives you an actual DPI scale, which is cool.
I like about 800.
Actually, does that even change right now?
Because I said it to.
Yes. Oh God.
This is great.
I think that if you're a fan
of Logitech and you want to use their products,
like a full Logitech product suite.
Awesome. Especially if you use headphones and stuff too,
so you can have multiple devices on the single receiver.
Thanks for watching everyone.
This is the MX Master 3S for the mouse
and MX mechanical or mechanical mini from Logitech.
Let us know in the comments
if you like these guys
and we'll see you next time.
See you later.