AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR WILL NOT BE REHIRED FOR THE NEXT SEMESTER
DUE TO HER COMMENTS ABOUT OTTO WARMBIER, THE 22-YEAR-OLD MAN
WHO UNFORTUNATELY WAS DETAINED DURING HIS TRIP DURING NORTH
KOREA CAME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES WITH - HE WAS
UNCONSCIOUS IN A COMA AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY LATER DIED.
THIS PROFESSOR FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE SAID
SOME PRETTY UNFORTUNATE THINGS ABOUT HIM.
LET ME GIVE YOU HER COMMENTS.
SHE BROUGHT ON HER PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE THAT FORMER
DETAINEE OTTO WARMBIER WAS TYPICAL OF A MINDSET OF A LOT
OF YOUNG, WHITE, RICH, CLUELESS MAIL TO COME INTO MY CLASSES.
SHE ADDED THAT HE GOT EXACTLY WHAT HE DESERVED.
KEEP
IN MIND HE TRAVELED TO NORTH KOREA.
HEíD TAKEN DOWN SOME SORT OF BANNER IN THE HOTEL THAT HE
WAS STAYING IN, IT WAS A PROPAGANDA BANNER.
HE LATER PUT A BACK UP AND IT DIDN'T MATTER, AT THAT POINT
THEY DECIDED TO DETAIN HIM.
AS HE WAS GOING TO THE AIRPORT TO FLY BACK TO THE UNITED
STATES HE WAS SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS OF HARD LABOR.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID TO HIM AND WHY HE WAS
IN A COMA WHEN HE ARRIVED BACK TO THE UNITED STATES, BUT HE
DIED AS A RESULT OF WHATEVER ABUSE HE WAS EXPOSED TO.
MAKING STATEMENTS LIKE THAT IS BEYOND INSENSITIVE.
IT'S JUST NOT WELL ADVISED AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A
PROFESSOR.
THIS IS SOMEONE WHO DEALS WITH STUDENTS FROM ALL DIFFERENT
TYPES OF BACKGROUNDS AND IF SHE HAS IS VERY CLEAR BIAS
AGAINST ANY GROUP OF STUDENTS, I THINK IT IS PROBLEMATIC.
SO THIS IS ACCORDING TO A STATEMENT FROM THE SCHOOL, THEY
SAID THAT CATHERINE DETWEILER WHO LAST TIME IN THE SPRING
AS AN ADJUNCT FACULTY MEMBER WILL NOT BE REHIRED TO
TEACH AT THE UNIVERSITY IN THE FUTURE.
THEY SAID THAT HER STATEMENTS DO NOT REFLECT THE BELIEFS OF
THAT UNIVERSITY.
I DISAGREE WITH THE DECISION.
1ST, LET ME SAY SAYING THAT HE GOT EXACTLY WHAT HE
DESERVED IS WAY OVER THE TOP.
NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE.
NO ONE DESERVES TO GET 15 YEARS OF HARD LABOR WHICH HE WAS NOT,
HE DIDN'T GET TO SERVE THE FULL SENTENCE PROBABLY BECAUSE HE GOT
SO SICK THAT HE DIED, AND NOBODY DESERVES TO GET ANYTHING
REMOTELY SIMILAR TO THAT FOR TEMPORARILY STEALING A
PROPAGANDA POSTER IN NORTH KOREA.
ON THE OTHER HAND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIM BEING WHITE
HAS TO DO WITH IT, THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID THAT I
DON'T AGREE WITH.
ON THE OTHER HAND, SAYING THAT HE WASN'T MISGUIDED AND GOING TO
NORTH KOREA IS A VERY NORMAL, RATIONAL THING TO SAY.
IN SENSITIVE TO SAY RIGHT AFTER HE DIES, ALTHOUGH WHEN ELSE
WOULD YOU EVER TALK ABOUT HIM.
YOU WOULDN'T BRING IT UP YEAR AND A HALF LATER, BUT I
DON'T THINK HE SHOULD'VE GONE TO NORTH KOREA, AND IF YOU GO
TO NORTH KOREA, RIGHT NOW IS A TOURIST, I THINK YOU ARE CRAZY.
BUT HER STATEMENT WASN'T ABOUT HOW IT WAS A BAD IDEA
FOR HIM TO TRAVEL TO NORTH KOREA.
HER STATEMENT WAS MORE ABOUT, AND I'M GIVING YOU WHAT WAS
IMPLIED, THIS IS A WHAT SHE SAID EXACTLY VERBATIM BUT SHE
WAS ESSENTIALLY SAYING HERE IS AN ENTITLED LIKE I GOING TO
ANOTHER COUNTRY THINKING HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS TO
DOING GET AWAY WITH IT.
HE GETS WHAT HE DESERVES.
THAT WAS REALLY THE EMPHASIS OF WHAT SHE WAS SAYING AND I
THINK THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THINGS.
AND THEN SHE GOES ON TO RANT ABOUT HER WHITE, MALE
STUDENTS AND TO ME, THAT IS PROBLEMATIC.
WE WOULD BE VERY CRITICAL OF A PROFESSOR WHO SAID THAT
ABOUT A GROUP OF BLACK STUDENTS, FOR INSTANCE, OR A GROUP OF
MUSLIM STUDENTS.
YOU ARE AN EDUCATOR, YOU ARE NOW SUPPOSED TO TREAT STUDENTS
DIFFERENTLY BASED ON RACE OR RELIGION SO FOR ME, THE
MOST PROBLEMATIC THING WAS NOT ONLY THE FACT THAT SHE WAS
INCREDIBLY INSENSITIVE ABOUT SOMEONE WHO JUST DIED IN A
TRAGIC WAY, BUT THE FACT THAT SHE SHOWED THAT SHE IS
A CERTAIN BIAS AGAINST SOME STUDENTS.
THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY PLACE IN AN EDUCATIONAL SETTING.
THAT IS MY ISSUE WITH WHAT SHE SAID.
QUICK SETS WHY I SAID I AGREED TO CLOSE CALL.
THE PART OF OTHER ME THE MOST OF THE FIRST SENTENCE WAS WHO
COME INTO MY CLASSROOM MEETING SHE HAS SOME PRECONCEIVED
NOTION ABOUT SOME SET OF FOLKS WHO COME INTO HER CLASSES.
SHE MENTIONED WHITE.
SHE MENTIONED MAIL.
AND SHE MENTIONED RICH.
EVEN IF SHE LEFT A RICH, IT STILL HAS SOME ISSUES.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO MARKDOWN RICH KIDS OR HAVE SOME SORT
OF BIAS AGAINST THEM?
ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT IS THE POINT OF ACADEMIC FREEDOM IS
THAT YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, SO NOW ARE
WE GOING TO FIRE ALL OF THE PROFESSORS IN THE COUNTRY
WITHOUT IT WAS ABOUT IDEA TO GO TO NORTH KOREA AND THAT IT
WAS AN ENTITLED STUPID THING TO DO?
I AM NOT SAYING IT OF AUTO, BECAUSE HE IS DEAD, BUT
DON'T GO TO NORTH KOREA AND THINK THAT IT IS A COOL
TOURIST TRIP BECAUSE SOMEONE FROM VICE WENT.
YOU ARE NOT DENNIS RODMAN.
IT IS A REALLY STUPID IDEA.
IT WAS A POSTER.
DID HE EVEN KNOW OR THINK HE WAS STEALING A?
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
YOU MIGHT BREAK SOME OTHER MINOR INFRACTION OR HAVE NO
INFRACTIONS, BUT THEY THINK IT WILL HELP THEM POLITICALLY
TO BASICALLY KIDNAP AN AMERICAN.
IT IS NOT A FREE
COUNTRY, THEY HAVE GULAGS AND CONSOLATION CONCENTRATION
CAMPS THAT DON'T FLIPPANTLY GO THERE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE GUY, IT'S ABOUT THE NEXT SET OF PEOPLE.
IF YOU'RE A PROFESSOR RAGING ABOUT THAT, I DON'T BLAME
YOU DIRECT ABOUT IT.
QUITE SUDDEN NOT BY RAGE ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE OPENLY SAID
THAT I THINK IT IS A REALLY BAD IDEA TO TRAVEL TO COUNTRIES
LIKE NORTH KOREA OR SOME OF THE COUNTRIES IN THE UAE KEEPING IT
100.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER GREAT PLACES TO VISIT
AROUND THE WORLD, AND YOU ARE BETTER SUITED AND SAFER AND
PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND THINGS
LIKE THAT, BUT FOR ME, SHE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF I WAS THE CHAIR OF THE
DEPARTMENT, SHE TEACHES ANTHROPOLOGY BY THE WAY.
I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF BIAS IS AT PLAY AND
WHETHER OR NOT IT IMPACTS THE WAY SHE TREATS CERTAIN STUDENTS.
THAT REALLY DID IT FOR ME AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CAN WE
FINALLY GET TO A PLACE WERE WE ARE CIVIL?
WHERE WE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE FAMILY MEMBERS
OF THIS VICTIM WHO ARE GRIEVING RIGHT NOW AND YOU ARE TALKING
OPENLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT HOW HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.
JUST BE A HUMAN BEING FOR ONCE.NET IS ANOTHER PART OF
IT THAT JUST DRIVES ME CRAZY.
WE HAVE GOTTEN SO TOXIC IN SOCIETY WERE WE JUST SAY
WHATEVER WE WANT TO WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT OR
THINKING ABOUT THE RAMIFICATIONS.
LET'S DO A POLL IN IT BECAUSE WE ARE SPLIT ON IT.
I BET A LOT OF YOU ARE SPLIT ON IT I'M CURIOUS OF WHAT YOU
THINK.
TYT.COM/FIRED AND WE WILL PUT THAT UP AFTER THE SHOW.
WE WILL HAVE A LINK IN THE DESCRIPTION BOX FOR YOU
GUYS WE CAN EASILY BOW.
I AM CURIOUS: DO YOU THINK THIS PROFESSOR SHOULD'VE BEEN
FIRED OR NOT?
GOOD CASE OBVIOUSLY BOTH WAYS.
WE DON'T WANT TO PREJUDGE THE STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS ACADEMIC FREEDOM AND HALF
OF WHAT SHE SAID WAS, IN MY OPINION, PERFECTLY REASONABLE.