and i think he's basically saying, at the end of the day, like YG reviewed
that, and said it was okay!.... to which i would
respond "sir, we're in the fourth generation of kpop i don't know what
you're going on about"
hi welcome! my name is angelina and today i wanted to talk about blackpink's
b-side track, pretty savage. notably, mostly
the choreography and the immense backlash that it has been receiving, so
usually i review title tracks and i do a little series called
"why it's familiar" which a lot of people dislike the title of, and
i don't understand! i find so much comfort within familiarity, but i guess
some people just don't feel the same way, but i don't
often review b-side tracks, in fact i don't think i have ever
actually yet. so i thought today we could make an exception
for our faves blackpink! *purrr* will i bring 2NE1 into this? i mean the
night is still young, so you never know. especially with my unpredictable nature...
so before anyone comes to my blink card, i will be critiquing the choreography,
expressing my thoughts on the song, and it really doesn't come
from a place of hate, so hold your tongue! I'm kidding, but that's
the thing, you are allowed to critique things, you
are allowed to not vibe with something, to not like something
you absolutely do not need to love everything that your idols put out, and
you are allowed to do so without trying to ruin someone's life
like trust me it's possible, and i saw this on kiel's instagram, he is
the choreographer or seemingly, a lot of people thought he was
the choreographer for pretty savage and he basically wrote "when you open twitter
on saturday night to see your name is trending forth worldwide with over 25K+
faceless accounts telling you to ***
for choreo that's not yours" and you know i myself have woken up
one too many times to something similar to that
so i can relate, maybe not to.... well 25K...?
maybe i can really... not the trending thing, but you know
but then he kind of explains the whole story behind it, he doesn't mention
blackpink, i feel like maybe there's an nda, like a
non-disclosure agreement, that he can't specifically say anything
about blackpink but he did say that there was a song that was released
and he was contacted to do the choreography for that song, and that only
20% of his choreography was used which is to
be expected for k-pop companies because he also explains
they tend to contact a lot of choreographers and on top of that they
have their own in-house choreographer so in theory, one dance could have many
choreographers that contributed to it and i think he's basically saying at the
end of the day like, YG reviewed that and said it was okay
so like why are you coming at him? i agree like
if the choreography is really that bad like it still has to go through yg,
they still had to spend however much time learning this choreography
so somewhere along the line you know, if someone really thought
that this was really shitty choreography, that this is really awkward choreography
from the beginning the company could have said something themselves,
don't get me wrong i thought the choreography was quite awkward
but apparently yg didn't! but yeah basically he was trending on twitter and
i saw a lot of the hate he was receiving as well
a lot of really disgusting things that people were saying about him
like seriously so many people hated the choreography
i even asked you guys what you thought of pretty savage and i think the
consensus is that a lot of people love the song, but the choreography didn't
match the vibe or the choreography was just plain
awkward, and that's valid i cannot stress this enough! you
are allowed to dislike the choreography, you can critique the hell out of
anything you want on the internet, which also means
people can critique you in response, but you know what,
it's it is! what it is but there is definitely a limit to how much
energy you should be putting in this disdain that you feel towards
a dance done by a k-pop group that you don't know, if your hate for something
crosses a line and essentially breaks someone's
boundary with the intent of ruining their mental health,
that is obviously disgusting! but i do have one critique about what he was
saying, you know he did say that people think that their idols are
gods and don't need to breathe while they're singing and dancing, to which i
would respond "sir we're in the fourth generation of
kpop i don't know what you're going on about" but I digress!
for legal reasons, that was a joke! but for real i'm sure he knows this as well
that the majority of these recent choreographies
absolutely are not made with vocals in mind, that's just a
fact, i've looked into this scientifically, if we compare second-gen
choreographies to third-gen choreographies and fourth-gen
choreographies, it's definitely night and day and before
anyone gets mad at that, this doesn't mean that one is better than the other
and it doesn't mean that intense choreographies didn't exist back then
but if you observe general trends, you will see vocals were prioritized which
is shown by how handheld mics were slowly replaced with face mics and
choreography became more of the focal point which we can see through more
refined sounding vocals, or maybe not even
hearing them at all. for example this Miss A performance of
"breathe" you can see Min doesn't really do a full
jump with the rest of the members, because it's her singing part and you
would likely hear that within her voice,
and if we compare that to "lovesick girls" they rudely make
ghosay, rosé, chaeyoung, in the choreography do these jumps while she's singing such a
beautiful part,
so realistically i definitely don't think breathing
is really prioritized these days but definitely let me know what you think
but yeah can you imagine receiving all that hate and then at the end of the day
like you literally only contributed 20% of that choreography? like that that's
kind of heartbreaking, at least if you choreographed the whole thing
the pain might have been worth something. you know but to be honest pretty savage
in my opinion, i analyzed it, obviously! because i'm
doing ''all blackpink dances for the same pt. 3''
title pending, but for me ''pretty savage'', it did have odes to older choreographies
makes sense that he only did 20% of that, but yeah with that huge preface
out of the way, now i would like to share with you my
thoughts on the choreography but before we get into my thoughts, and i am
very fully aware that i'm 15 minutes into filming this, but before we get started don't forget
to like this video or leave a dislike, i'm not too picky
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at least at least until... *censored for my own safety*
so as we all know with ''lovesick girls'' blackpink are also promoting ''pretty savage''
as a b-side track, i love it when groups do this but for
blackpink i don't know why they do this, i feel like a lot of their b-side tracks
just deserve to be title tracks and maybe i'm just biased as hell
but i will never get over ''forever young'' not having a music video
but for this dichotomy between ''pretty savage'' and ''lovesick girls''
i feel like it's very interesting because i feel like ''lovesick girls''
a lot of people feel like should have been the b-sidetrack because
''pretty savage'' is very much in line with what we think
blackpink typically sounds like, it has a beat drop...
it it has a beat drop, yeah i've heard from a lot of people that they think
that ''pretty savage'' was supposed to be the
title track but here's my little theory, i think
maybe that could be plausible, right? it has all the elements that we're really
used to, it follows this kind of typical yg formula,
this kind of typical blackpink formula but
after all the hate that teddy received for ''how you like that'' after all the hate
that ''how you like that'' received i feel like they tried to go in a
different direction because they knew that their fans were getting
kind of sick of the same thing over and over again, because fans
do hold a lot of power and i think as much as we crap on yg
sometimes i think they do listen sometimes! so
a lot of complaints for the same structure, same empty beat drop,
they went for something different like ''lovesick girls'' i'm really happy about
that because it does show their duality but back to ''pretty savage'' so for me this
song is very reminiscent of CL's ''Hello B****es''
and i actually made a fan made music
video for this song on my second channel, um... robbed a few people the wrong way i
guess if you don't include the group within your fan made music video
then that's just wrong! and actually my friend said that it sounds like
g-dragon's ''Bull****'' so let me know in the comments
down below do you agree with those two songs, do you think they have a similar
vibe, that they sound a little bit similar? but overall definitely such a yg
type sound i definitely love the instrumental
i just love how badass it makes you feel and on that note the choreography
for me doesn't really match that, which brings us to our next point
so on that note of choreography i did want to say that i predicted that there
would be like this hair flip motion, because in my fan
made music video, i made that before they released the choreography, and i
so my critique on the dance is that i find it a little bit too structured, and
by structured i just mean how typically third and fourth gen choreographies are
where there really isn't much room for ad-libs because
from start to finish it's super dance-based, but frankly there are still
elements that do stand out like lisa's parts, i feel that are very
much part of the direction that i would have gone but,
if we think of more carefree choreographies at least within Blackpink,
i would think back to kind of like ''Boombayah''
or ''Whistle'' because you know even in instances where it seems like it's gonna
be carefree, you know let's say the hair flipping, you know
a lot of people have described this as kind of awkward, especially with their
positioning. but to be fair hair flips are definitely
troublesome when performing, you know it definitely hurts your neck, it ruins your
hair and you know you have to understand that blackpink aren't going to perform
these songs just once for that day, they're going to
perform "lovesick girls" definitely more than once they're going
to perform "pretty savage" definitely more than once, they have to change clothing,
they have to perform the song multiple times, and i think an issue with this
is that we got to learn the song almost entirely before they performed it,
for "how you like that" and "lovesick girls" and most songs really, you generally get
to see some of the choreography at least in the music video,
but i feel for "pretty savage" a lot of people got to fall in love with it right
off the bat, without ever seeing the performance and
coming up with their own ideas of what it would look like what it would feel
like, so then when you see something different
something so off of what you kind of built it up in your head to be,
i can imagine it's it's awkward. i don't know
but on that note of you know more awkward moves there's this part in the
lift Rosé into the air, like it looks like they're going to properly lift her
but then it's like a half jump, i don't know but
i've definitely also heard some people say that these awkward moves
come off to them as being more quirky like for me ''how you like that'' i thought
was really quirky and i'm sure maybe some people thought
it was awkward as well so obviously obviously it is still super
subjective, but i don't hate everything about the
choreography i do think there's some really cool
elements of course the hip movements i'm all about that,
and then that opening move where they're kind of pretending to play the piano, i
thought that was really cool as well. [funky transition]
but i definitely wonder if this song wouldn't have benefited from
you know a more carefree choreography, maybe something a little bit less
choreography based, i know that's so scandalous to say in this here
fourth generation of kpop... but i think they should have went a
little bit more second gen with this, i'm not saying that because second gen
was better i'm just saying that because the overall vibe of the song was more in
line with what they would have done, or if you do want something quote
unquote a little bit more ''structured'' i feel like something along the lines of
''Dally'' by Hyolyn would have been nice as well but yeah definitely let me know in
the comments down below, which choreographies if you can name any
do you think would have fit the vibe or do you like the dance perfectly as it is.
i just think that new age k-pop kind of underestimates how
fans would react to a simpler choreography, because i'm sure we've all
seen a song that is kind of really soft or kind of
really doesn't need a choreography but there is a choreography anyways, and i
think that's because k-pop wants to keep people's interest
all the time, like a constant need so you end up getting choreographies for songs
that really don't need one, you know sometimes i feel
like kpop forgets that fans would be more than happy to just
have their idols sitting down and singing their favorite songs live, or
is that just my second gen ass? and again don't misunderstand
this like i don't hate the choreography i just have critiques of this and i
think it's healthy to have conversations about these things without resulting to
going into people's spaces and making them feel really shitty, but yeah
the last thing that i wanted to talk about
is probably the most controversial thing, like you know 2NE1 comparisons,
whatever! been there done.. that but this i'm actually scared to say because i've
heard horror stories.. and that is the fact that....
i think it's lisa who says blackpink in your area!
don't @ me! you know what, let's let's take a listen, i don't think i can
play the audio can I? [Music]
that's Lisa! to be fair it could be a mix of both of their voices, but i definitely
hear lisa a lot more than Jisoo, i know a lot of
people are really passionate and i feel like a lot of people are
going to say that they confirmed it themselves that it was just so that
actually said that but this is fishy fishy like just like
the ice cream lyrics, ice cream chillin' chillin'
[funky transition] so yeah that is basically it for this
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as for me i'm gonna get going i like accidentally swallowed face wash i was
like washing my face in the shower and then i opened my mouth and it had
like a bubble film over my mouth and then i breathed in and
then i was like dying i was literally like choking i don't know if it's like
the chemicals in the face watch because it's like an aha or like
glycolic acid type and i just think i couldn't breathe and
it like my throat still hurts from it
anyways