Do Powers (Siddhis) Distract you from Enlightenment?
This whole idea of Siddhis, people are sceptical and afraid of Siddhis. So for instance, third eye awakening.
Even though it is empirically shown because I think either they think it is some kind of black magic.
and something wrong must be going on or they are somehow uncomfortable with it.
I wanted to have your view because I feel that Siddhis are basically science which the ordinary person has not yet discovered and few people have discovered!
So if some aeroplane is flying over a very primitive society they will think that this is magic.
This is some kind of a miracle. But it is not a miracle to the person who understands it.
So the one quality is that there are knowledgeable people for whom it is just a scientific thing, and it can be taught.
Now that is another thing, Sai Baba had siddhis but he was not teaching others to have it.
But you have siddhis and are teaching others to have third eye awakening.
and this idea of, the fact that many other kids have third eye awakening and they can be free to go and be measured,
evaluated in scientific clinics.You haven't stopped them. They can be evaluated
and are doing everything to make it more and more scientific and studying and all that. We are encouraging all the studies.
Because also you know it is also interesting that different children are having different experiences. So depending on
their own level and their own conditioning and whatever, somebody sees it from here. Somebody sees it from there.
and whatever, somebody sees it from here. Somebody sees it from there. Somebody can see clairvoyance. distance.
Somebody else cannot. So we are discovering just like scientists, discovering lot of interesting things which did not fit the old thought
and then they have to find out why it is like this and when you heat the temperature, it becomes something else.
So they are discovering all these things. And now we have to figure out. So this is the stage I think we are in.
the rediscovery and re-validation of ancient knowledge.
Do you feel that is the way we have to look at siddhis - as a science ?
See I'll present the basic few truths. People have one - stupid fellows who think its not possible.They are too stupid.
That is one group. Second, kind of a paranoid that it is stopping our growth towards enlightenment, which is not true!
wanted this important truth to be understood which is not true! I wanted this important truth to be understood.
Patanjali speaks Siddhis as destruction for enlightenment.
because the methodology he provides is when you are traveling towards enlightenment; you will manifest these powers.
That is the science based on what Patanjali is offering. There is one more science by Sadashiva much before Patanjali called Shashtanga yoga in yogapada.
There Siddhis manifest only from the space of Oneness. They do not manifest on the way to enlightenment.
So Sadashiva calls them as Shakthis not siddhis. So the science I am following is from the yogapada of Sadashiva.
The more you experience enlightenment and Oneness more you will manifest powers.
What I am presenting to the world is not siddhis as described by Patanjali, it is Shakthis as described by Sadashiva.
This is very important. Sadashiva gives a structure called Shashtanga yoga. Patanjali gives a structure called ashtanga yoga. Both lead to enlightenment.
Sadashiva has delivered it in agama; 60,000 years before. Patanjali is actually a disciple of Sadashiva.
He delivers it the way he understood and the way his generation needed it.
When he lived, what was the need of the people, for him, for them he delivered it.
So what I am offering to the world, whether my kids doing third eye reading,
or they are able to see what is happening somewhere even thousands of kilometers apart
I think you can have your own personal experience. He told me many things.Correct!
And seeing beyond the distance, all this are not siddhis as described in Patanjali yoga sutra by Patanjali.
They are shakthis as described by Sadashiva in Shashtanga yoga in agamas, yogapada.
In agamas yogapada; Sadashiva very clearly describes so these shakthis do not stop somebody reaching enlightenment.
And they manifest only if that person is rooted in the enlightened state.
See for example: If you ask a person who does third eye reading, from Patanjali tradition, he will say he concentrates himself
and completely centers, does pratyahara, dharana and then he manifests that power.
But if you ask my disciple, how he is manifesting the power; all he will say is He goes to that Oneness; that Oneness is manifesting the power.
There is no concentration, there is no meditation ; dharana, dhyana, samadhi has a different meaning in Shashtanga than the meaning in Ashtanga.
Very good! The tradition I am following, I have been taught by my Gurus is the tradition of Sadashiva's agamas.
Very Good! It is based on Upanishads, practised as agama! So the whole idea is different. It is not Siddhi, it is shakthi. And it is not before enlightenment, it is after enlightenment.
It is not towards the Oneness. It is from Oneness. It is not of enlightenment; its from enlightenment.
That's very impressive. Thats the major difference. That is one. Second, when we do not analyze the shastras thoroughly, many Gurus criticize
my initiating people into healing, they do even openly declare healing should not be done. These powers should not be manifested.
And some Gurus even openly declare when they asked about third eye - 'for God's sake, don't try to open it!'
I do not know what is the reason and what is the context and all that. And I have nothing to comment.
One thing I can be sure, what ever I am saying now I am responsible.
What I am teaching is from original agamas yogapada. the science very clearly declares
Sadashiva is very clear, manifestation of these powers happen when you experience Oneness with Sadashiva
not on the way to experience Oneness with Sadashiva.
Patanjali declares all these Siddhis are experienced on the way to Nirvikalpa samadhi
So there can be distraction to Nirvikalpa samadhi. Sadashiva very clearly declares these are manifesting
in his tradition. See each tradition has a structure , separate architecture.
separate architecture. You might be surprised in shashtanga; Sadashiva talks about different ways
and he explains the pranayama, prathyahara in a totally different context.
So the whole structure is different. There he says very clearly, these powers start manifesting
from experience of Oneness. Means after the Nirvikalpa Samadhi they start manifesting.
But the Patanjali system became more popular nowadays. See Patanjali's system became more popular
Sadashiva's system did not become popular for various reasons.
because the Sadashiva's system needs somebody who is grounded in that.
It comes more with the Guru disciple parampara. Patanjali you can just pick up a book on the shelf
you do not need a Guru. You do not need to read his sanskrit. You can be very proud about you don't know the sanskrit language.
And it can be easily hijacked.
Yes! But Sadashiva's system needs a basic requirement of initiation by enlightened guru.
Shakthipath! Shakthipath!Shakthipath initiation and training by an enlightened master.
So naturally the requirements and prerequisites of this tradition did not allow this tradition to be mass circulated.
Which is very good actually! It protects it. Good or bad that is one.
This is the reality. This is the reality. But just because Patanjali's system
has become popular no one has the right to say other than that no other thought current exists.
And anybody who manifests these extraordinary powers is only expressing siddhis.
And that sill distract people from expressing enlightenment. The whole thing is irrelevant when you are in the path of Sadashiva
as per yogapada of Agama. Because here whatever is manifested; there is no concentration
or any mind game used. It is from the Oneness expressed. They are not siddhis, they are shakthis.
That's very good ! Beautiful! And I also want to assure all my disciples and followers
express, manifest as many powers as Mahadeva describes you will not be deviated from the enlightenment.
You will be more and more rooted in the Oneness experience.
You do not need to have the worries generated by Patanjalas. You are Adhi Shaivas.
Lot of confusion about siddhis is because of Pathanjalas.
The followers of Patanjali. And unfortunately even in the system of Patanjali they have not reached the Nitvikalpa samadhi
so they are not able to understand some other traditions exist.
Right ! Right! Some other possibilities exist.
See sadashiva very clearly says every pattern you complete and achieve completion manifests as one power.
Shakthi! Playing with that shakthi. Manifesting that shakthi does not take you away from enlightenment.
It grounds you more and more in Oneness.
Manifesting and playing with the power itself becomes a spiritual practice to be grounded in Oneness.
in sadashiva's tradition. Very good!
In anybody who is ready to challenge me as per this tradition, I am ready to face them
for Vakyartha Sadas or kandana mandanna or vada prathivada! Good!
I am open. And I will also demonstrate these siddhis and prove to them they are not siddhis
as per Patanjali. They are pure shakthis as per Sadashiva.
See there's a big difference. When somebody expresses siddhis as per Patanjali his brain ill not show Turiya state.
The ultimate awareness and ultimate restful awareness. Yes.
I can demonstrate the siddhis not only through me any of my disciple.
Not only they manifest siddhis, their brain will be in the same frequency of ultimate restful awareness.
and ultimate awareness. Which is turiya - the Oneness state.
So neuroscientists should do some brain scan work on these students
which we are already working on. Which we already started doing.
That would be published in scientific journals. Because that is very solid proof.
See when somebody is in the state of the ultimate awareness and ultimate rest that can be clearly recorded
by the modern day equipments which we have tried many times.
And it shows very clearly that no thought.
that turiya state. Whenever my disciples manifest powers it always shows the brain is in the turiya state.
Right! It means it is not siddhis, it is shakthi. Right!
They are manifesting Oneness. They are not having this powers when they are towards Oneness.
They are having these powers because they are rooted in Oneness.