hi I'm Ronda I'm Angie and we are Adventures in NoMadness at the Escape Trailer Industries
showroom in beautiful Chilliwack Canada all right this is the big question
number one thanks Canada for letting us take our time so we can actually stop here this year
but here's a big question if we had to do it all over again going full time would we
still stay with the 21C or would we choose the 21NE I don't know let's go figure that out!
so one of the reasons I love being in the RV is because I can sit in the dinette
look out the back window and see a beautiful landscape or view most of the time
and drink a cup of coffee the only thing that this showroom model doesn't have
is coffee and a view when we came up back in 2018 looking at the various models that were
available then we thought hmm one almost all the places that we boondock and some of the RV
parks when we back in the view is always out the back so we really wanted to sit back here
and yes the bed in the front means that you have to walk by it if you're bringing people in but
and it's slightly smaller it's not a queen but we are fine with the bed size this is where we spend
most of our waking time and having a window in the back is truly awesome second
is on the 21 classic your batteries are inside and in this configuration we have the u-shape dinette
but in this configuration the batteries are right underneath the seat and pretty easy to access
ours is the u-shape and then you have additional storage back here so if you're planning on camping
in really cold weather and as you might know by looking at some of our older videos from last
year we spent over five weeks in the cold in down to minus 10 fahrenheit at one point
and having the batteries outside at that point would have been a no-go because we would have
had zero ability to charge them so can two people sleep in a double bed well yes actually it's
quite comfortable I sleep on this side up against this wall and Angie's over there I don't have to
worry about rolling out and I don't have to climb over her should I need to get up in the middle of
the night just accessing from the end and we have two small dogs that like to sleep with us as well
so if there's ever any issue with space it's all about the fact that they don't have enough (ha ha)
Angie always wants to video me at the wrong moment not really I'm in a showroom so clearly
I'm not using the bathroom or at least I hope it's clear that I'm not using the bathroom
why am I sitting here well basically if you look at this the size of this bathroom when we were
looking at them in 2018 when you walk in and sit down you don't feel quite as cramped it's very
minor though that's because this space in the back behind the toilet you actually have space
and for us that means that we have a little bit more storage
but also if you're sitting on the toilet and if you should lean back you're not going to
hit your head on the cabinet so when Angie starts looking at the NE let's see if she really loves
the counter space in there or not because I'm wondering if that's not a deal breaker
oops it's a good thing there's nothing in there oh why am I down here because this is the only way
that I can actually see visually the size of these tanks on the classic
you have a whopping 22 gallon black tank and 28 gallon fresh and gray water
wow I wish this had been available when we ordered our 21c just so we had a comparison this
would have been a hard choice well it feels very spacious coming in here because you're not walking
right into basically a bathroom right here and a door uh wow this is super awesome I love the 21NE
all right so this is really my first impressions after being in here
a queen size bed well you know it's not that bad sleeping in a double sized bed in the 21C but
this is very spacious and it would give the dogs a lot more room too
because 10 little pounds they like to stretch out so lots of storage underneath the queen
size bed and we could put a lift under that if you wanted to be able to access it what some
people do is open those up and put like a slider that comes straight out so that's one option
well I love this big dinette too
holy moly this would give us all kinds of room to spread out over here
you could even make this into a partial bed if you wanted to or lay down the lounge area and have
another part of it as uh yeah this is very roomy I kind of like this you can totally stretch out
my feet hit the wall at this point and not only that this makes into another full
queen bed it's really large I think it's actually larger than a queen bed
well if you're a family trying to decide you may want to go with the 21NE because you can
have it with cots or cot ready so that's a nice feature uh the 21NE also comes standard with the
u-shaped dinette that is an option in the 21C all right well let's just go check out the bathroom
I do kind of like coming in and having the bathroom there versus over here let's go
check it out so typical size as the 19 and the 5-0 but I think it's fine yeah it works for me
well I think this might have been a tough choice however I think there's uh some key differences
like
this pantry for our food this is obviously designed as a wardrobe we turned ours into
a pantry because we're full-time and this would definitely be a much smaller pantry
cooking cooking
this is the new Dometic stove top that they're putting in uh this is not as roomy right here so
there's some huge pluses with the queen size bed and a larger dinette cooking surface
definitely not as big I do like the reduced profile of their new hood ranges here and
I would say there's definitely not as much storage because you have the larger bed
you have a reduced kitchen size and so there is less storage here now in this
one they have opted to put the convection oven right underneath the stove so that allows more
storage up here I mean overall it feels like a lot of storage in here I'm not sure
it's the same amount or it's at least different storage and it would be a little tougher for us
I think with how we have things stored to actually find some of that same room in here but it
actually looks pretty close because you have all that storage underneath that queen size bed
all right lots of storage underneath
and yeah so there's lots of great storage all underneath there wait where's the battery
there's no batteries
oh my god there's no batteries where's the batteries
here's where the batteries go in the 21NE hmm it might be another deal breaker oh no I'm in trouble
already on this one okay this has the same fresh and black tank capacity at 28 gallons as a 21c but
the poor black tank is only 13.2 gallons I think that might be a deal breaker
well we've moved on from pretend coffee to pretend wine
all right so 21C versus 21NE what would we have gone with and the answer is
21C yeah we like what we have it's awesome here's the big uh deal breakers for us would have been
having the batteries outside of the unit now if you followed us in the past as Ronda has said
that we do camp in a lot of inclement weather and we've camped down to a 10 below fahrenheit
so having batteries on the outside of the unit is definitely a no-go for us the other one is
the black tank size so we do a lot of boondocking and a lot of dry camping and so having that larger
capacity black tank is also key for us it's all about how long you're going to be in a particular
place and we have camped for weeks on end in one place and although we can get additional water
and we can conserve a lot not being able to just you know use the black tank as needed
that can cause a problem because it means moving the RV more often yeah so you know one way you can
counteract that is to have a composting toilet if you're the type that likes to boondock a lot
or I think the 21NE is great for families because of the queen-size bed and at the
large size dinette that can be made into a larger than queen size bed great for families
and great for families that where you might be camping and campgrounds with bathrooms as well
especially if you're out for long periods of time if using this for weekends I think that's
perfect for your family the large beds and the placement of everything this is a really really
nice unit yeah I would actually love this one but full timing not having the additional space
I love that how open it is walking in and not having to walk in the back if you're bringing
in friends this is huge you know you have to really think about what kind of camping you do
what kind of weather is it in you know are you going to be inside a lot do you think or not
so they can only do so much with the engineering and the black tank but again if you are somebody
that wants this kind of room and boondocks a lot you know you might consider the composting toilet
so uh the 21C has been fantastic for us I feel like the storage is well placed in the 21C it's
easy for us because we put a bed lift on to get under the bed to access all of that we've
got great storage underneath the benches and because the kitchen is a bit larger in the 21c
we have a lot more kitchen storage plus because we have turned the wardrobe into a pantry
that's much larger much larger than what we would get in the 21NE so for us the 21C
definitely wins out on kind of those three issues the battery, the black tank and kitchen storage
that is more accessible i think there's ample storage in here it's just a lot of it a lot more
of it's going to be underneath the bed and under the the benches well the other thing of course is
the bed the queen size bed is awesome however one person is going to have to crawl over the other
person so there's pros and cons to everything there's not in my opinion there's not just one
RV out there that's perfect checking all the boxes you might have to check so there's
always going to be some concessions that one or the other person is going to have to make
I never concede she's pretty stubborn she doesn't look like she is give in yes concede no
or is it give up oh I don't know yeah I don't know anyway thanks so much for watching if you got some
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