obviously i've seen like we've seen will
smith take on like the apocalypse and
we've seen like
these kind of like mega star like they
can do no wrong
i think the appeal for this is you're
kind of playing you're playing someone
closer to me
yeah right then like an uber hero it's
like so i mean was that the appeal that
joel is a bit of more of an every man
than kind of the uber action star
absolutely yeah i mean i fell in love
with joel
uh as soon as i read the script like i
and and more importantly just felt like
he was such a version of me that i
haven't gotten to really like do
in a movie you know and um that is so
like who i am
in what ways are you closer to joel than
other characters you've played what
resonated
oh so many things i mean you know uh i
just think like how
uh yeah how sensitive he is you know his
longing to be
great in sort of this innocent way
though like it is like a very like
boyish
fantasy that he can live out so joel is
kind of in this community this kind of
post-apocalyptic community bunkered down
in the beginning
and you know everybody kind of has their
skills and joel essentially
has zero skills except perhaps being a
decent cook um
yeah is that is that what would so
what's your function in the bunker
in this society what could you bring to
the table a lot of stuff
you know like i think uh that was one of
my favorite parts
of the script and just like the world
that you're thrust into at the beginning
like here's this guy and this bunker in
the apocalypse where he's like
the ninth wheel but he loves them so
much and like they like love him
but like he's not really involved in
anything because he has this
thing that paralyzes him this like
freeze like fear
you know thing he's just so incapable
like
right um but he wants to be so helpful
but yeah
you know so he's even so positive about
the things that he that he contributes
you know
you know he cooks them in strong and
like he you know he cleans
you know he like mans down the floor
yeah someone's got to do it how are your
cooking skills how are your cleaning
skills do i want
do i want you in my bunker with me i
guess i'm asking yeah i don't know i
think i would make
really like i make i'm not like uh like
an adventurous cook
you know like i don't so i don't like
you know i don't like uh like experiment
with flavors
and stuff and like or go and buy a bunch
of ingredients that i'm just feeling
that day and then throwing something
together like i can't do that you know
yeah i know one one of the times we
chatted we uh we talked about our mutual
love of the matrix you're a co-star in
this jessica
jessica henwick went off to do the
matrix sequel after this have you
picked her brain are you insanely
jealous what gives she's like one of my
favorite people
and she's insanely talented and she's
like crazy physically talented too so
she can kind of just do everything and
she's also just like the coolest person
too
so yeah it just like i couldn't be
happier for her and i couldn't be more
geeking out
and trying to like get any kind of hint
to what's happening
any time i talk to her but she's just
like shuts me down every time it's so
funny
she's giving me some some cool set
stories and stuff you know nice yeah
well keon is infamously the coolest man
on the planet i want to see yeah
exactly exactly that was like the first
thing i was just like how is
just tell me tell me he's as good as he
seems um you talk about the physicality
you know this is a physical role for you
too and that's that's nothing new for
you
have your past experiences and things
like maze runner
or teen wolf does that help in a film
like this did you call upon past
experiences that
make this a little easier or what the
spirit of the movie and like just like
when i read the script and like the
character like and you know
just the whole world like seemed so
different from anything i'd ever done it
was so funny like
that i had never like even put the
similarities together until like then
i'm on set or something
we're doing like a tracking shot because
i'm just like sprinting through the
forest like and
things are behind me i was like oh yeah
i know this
i've done this yeah yeah yeah this is
familiar
uh yeah cracked me up uh so many
elements of like
you know with the monsters too and like
just we have familiar ways of working
you know or there's something attacking
me again you know that i can't see
it's funny our last big sit down as i
recall was kind of at the end
of teen wolf it was an american assassin
and it was kind of a big pivotal kind of
moment for you right and that was like
you know you were still relatively
recently coming off the accident it was
there was a lot going on
a couple years later now like do you
feel like a different
sense of where you're at are you more
secure in
what you want what you want to go after
or is it still are you still just like
every actor and being like i don't know
i'm just riding the wave we'll see what
happens oh yeah
no no no that's a really good point um
things shift into perspective a little
bit
um you know you you start realizing
what's
important to you i think in terms of the
accident for me that was that was like a
very big
uh thing for me to go through that i you
know still still
um deal with but absolutely like every
day
uh i've i've yeah i mean i'm
leaps and bounds in terms of how i feel
from from a few years ago when we last
talked you know
it's a unique situation for someone as
young as you were to like face mortality
like in your 20s you don't usually
wrestle with that kind of stuff so that
has to have an impact
yeah absolutely and you know it's made
me who i am today and
um you know in in weird
ways too i've become like grateful for
who i uh
who i came out of that be you know so
i'm so angry at it for a long time you
know totally but yeah i mean that's just
look that's
how it goes you know that that uh we all
have like
that we go through that you know shapes
us and that's
that's uh that was a big one for me i
did get a chance to catch up with you
briefly a few months back for a fun
reunion for teen wolf
um i mean i know you keep up with with a
lot of that gang already but did that
event that teen wolf reunion reignite or
spawn any new
conversations or is it all just like
that that bond is always there
nothing's gonna change it either way
yeah no that's i mean look
nothing will ever change that that
reunion's so fun and
the phone calls that we had after it you
know we just got so
like emotional about it just realizing
how much we love
and also miss each other always but like
always have each other you know what i
mean
yeah cause obviously like you know one
of the biggest things coming off that
show coming away from like working with
friend in that capacity is that
it's such a unique amount of time that
you're spending together
so so that's something you go through
really moving on from any kind of
experience you know
it really obviously like you hear this a
lot it becomes like your family down
there but that couldn't be more
real and true and when you do a show
like that for seven years too starting
from where we all started the show at
two i think
it also was you know such a big piece of
what it meant for us like
so many of our like first like big
things like that it was my first thing
and ever you know so it means like it's
a huge
percentage of who i am yeah i'm sure you
guys have daydreamed about like working
together in different capacities whether
it's
a huge thing or other thing have you is
who would you want to work with again
and what kind of
project i mean any of them so many of
them you know like me and tyler talk
about that all the time
you know uh we talked about how cool
that would be just how amazing it would
be you know
yeah i'm sure it'll happen um i don't
know i've always liked had confidence in
that that
yeah it was definitely not the last time
we were gonna work together or anything
and last thing for you i i appreciate
that you know you like
many people have used their social
platform to
to spread some good word about voting in
this time etc
i kind of referenced this earlier but
did you have like a wake-up call did it
just feel like incumbent upon you like
now or never to speak up and kind of get
involved
yeah they're just to me it there became
a reason really for
it all like i don't know i don't know
it's just again look it's so it's
it's just something that's like bigger
than uh any of us
you know what's happening right now
what's happened in the last four years i
started thinking of it in the way that
like look if i
if i can have a percentage the slightest
percentage of like influencing or
helping
you know with what's going on right now
like that's just like so much my duty
just
as a person and just for myself too to
stand up for what i believe in and
really just like
i don't know taking ownership of that i
think when i was a kid i used to think
like
and still to a degree i'm just
inherently like who gives you what i
have to say like you know i'm not doing
tweets like i don't know what to tweet
about you know i would tweet stupid
stuff
uh you know as a kid something just i
don't know it's
be stoned or something being like sucks
like literally just seeing the power of
it though truly i truly have also been
able to see
you know i mean if it wasn't for social
media so many of these things would not
have come to light so many of these
things
um we'd still be sleep on you know and
we've been asleep on for far too long
and so i do
see the good and the power in it now i
mean i get it now in a way that i never
did before i guess
you know because it can it can be so
powerful and be
used for the good of mankind