this is your wife,
and I believe it was your wife
who wanted to take this
permanent makeup course.
Is that correct?
>> That is correct, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: You didn't take
the course?
>> That's correct.
>> Judge Judy: Are you a party
plaintiff because you provided
the funds for the course?
>> That's correct, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
The defendants run a business.
Is that right?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: I would like you
to describe your business to me.
>> We are an academy that train
people how to create the most
natural-looking eyebrows
through our workshops.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
So you have a training center?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: And you
get prospective students?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: You advertise
for those students
on the Internet?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: Is that
how you found
the defendants, on the Internet?
>> Yes, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: Can I see a copy
of that ad, please?
>> Most of our Internet ads,
Your Honor, if I may say,
is through
our Yelp reviews of students
who previously took --
>> Judge Judy: I just want to
see what they looked at.
Do you have what you looked at?
>> I look on the phone.
>> Judge Judy: What do you mean
you looked on the phone?
>> On my iPhone,
that's how I found the ad.
>> Judge Judy: But you looked on
your iPhone.
It didn't just pop up there.
You had to have pushed in
something
to search for something.
>> So you want me to show you
through my iPhone?
>> Judge Judy: Well, get me...
>> Oh, yes.
>> Judge Judy: Get me what you
saw when you applied
for this course.
>> I'm not quite sure what she
saw, Your Honor, but what I --
>> Judge Judy: I don't care.
She's going to show me
what she saw.
Oh, I don't want this.
I want to see what she saw.
>> Okay.
>> Judge Judy: I don't want
to see your Yelp reviews.
Permanent makeup, makeup artist,
eyebrow services.
Evons Legendary Microblading.
Is that you?
>> Yes, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Is this the ad that you saw?
>> No, Your Honor.
>> Judge Judy: I'd like
to see the ad that you saw.
>> I researched for state board,
and their school comes up.
>> Judge Judy: I'd like to see
it.
>> Thank you.
>> Judge Judy: Evons Beauty
College.
>> We owned a beauty college
before, Your Honor,
but that's not the college
that teaches permanent makeup.
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
This is what you saw --
Evons Beauty College,
cosmetology schools.
Okay.
Are you located at 77 [bleep]?
>> That was our location.
>> Judge Judy: I just asked you,
"Are you located at
7 [bleep] Boulevard?"
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: That's where your
business is.
How long has it been there?
>> That location was there
for 3 1/2 years.
>> Judge Judy: Is it still
there?
>> It's still there, but we just
recently sold it last month,
that location.
>> Judge Judy: How many
locations do you have?
>> Two.
>> Judge Judy: Are you
board-certified or licensed
by any governmental agency?
>> Absolutely.
>> Judge Judy: Which
governmental agency?
>> For our college, let me
differentiate between the two.
There is a difference.
The beauty college side trains
everybody in cosmetology,
manicuring, aesthetician,
electrology.
Those were certified
by State Board of California,
as well as the BBP,
which certifies all the schools.
For our permanent makeup course,
it's regulated
by a different agency.
It is the Health Department.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Do you have a certification
from the Health Department...
>> Yes, we do.
>> Judge Judy: ...for this
location where she went?
>> She was being trained at
a different location.
>> Judge Judy: Which location?
>> It is at 133 [bleep],
which is our permanent
makeup center.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Do you have a picture
of that location?
Because bottom line in this case
is you were dissatisfied
with the service.
You want your money
back for the course.
There's a cross-complaint
for harassment and defamation.
I'd like to see
the certification.
On what date did you meet
either the defendant or...
what's your last name?
>> My last name, McMacken.
>> Judge Judy: Were you the one
who trained her?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: And do you have
to be independently certified?
In addition to the school,
are you licensed by anyone?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Judge Judy: By whom?
>> By Health Care Department.
>> Judge Judy: Okay.
Well, this is a business license
for permanent makeup,
and it says that you can operate
a permanent makeup business.
And this isn't
from the Health Department.
>> Oh, over there.
They put city permit
and Health
Care Department permit.
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
Shh.
And, Ms. McMacken, it says
that you are the owner of this.
Is that right?
>> Yes, ma'am.