LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS THE HOST OF
MSNBC'S "MORNING JOE."
PLEASE WELCOME, JOE SCARBOROUGH.
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>> Stephen: SO AS YOU KNOW, I'M AN ARDENT VIEWER OF YOUR
SHOW.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: I WATCH THE "COFFEE JOE MORNING."
>> EVERY DAY.
BIG FAN FROM WAY BACK.
>> Stephen: WE CALL YOU "COFFEE JOE MORNING" OVER HERE.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: AND "COFFEE MORNING JOE" AND THE BREW CREW
WE CALL YOU GUYS OVER THERE.
HOW'S MIKA?
>> SHE'S DOING GREAT.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
ARE YOU THE COHOST-- ARE YOU GUYS COHOSTING OR ARE YOU THE
HOST AND SHE'S THE COHOST.
>> IT'S "MORNING MIKA."
SHE'S IN CHARGE.
>> Stephen: SHE IS?
>> SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN IN CHARGE GLI UNDERSTAND SHE'S THE ONE WHO
BANNED KELLYANNE CONWAY FROM COMING ON YOUR SHOW.
>> SHE HAS, SHE HAS.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: THAT'S STRONG.
THAT'S A STRONG MOVE.
SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS-- >> WAIT A SECOND.
SO, I RECOGNIZE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE HERE FROM THE REPUBLICAN
CONVENTION THIS SUMMER.
>> Stephen: YES.
ALL IN CLEVELAND.
THEY'RE ALL FROM CLEVELAND.
>> THERE'S ONE GUY WITH A NASCAR SHIRT IN THE BACK.
I THINK THAT MAY BE THE ONLY REPUBLICAN IN HERE.
>> Stephen: MIKA MAKES THOSE CALLS.
IF I WANT TO BE ON THE SHOW-- I CAN BE ON THE SHOW?
>> YOU HAVE TO ASK MIKA.
>> Stephen: DO I HAVE TO STAY ON MIKA'S GOOD SIDE?
>> YES, YOU DO.
IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE KELLYANNE KEPT COMING OUT AND
EVERYTHING SHE SAID WAS DISPROVEN FIVE MINUTES LATER.
IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE ADMINISTRATION.
>> Stephen: THERE'S A QUICKER WAY TO SAY IN THA IN AN ENTIRE
SENTENCE.
>> WHICH?
>> Stephen: SHE JUST LIED.
>> WELL, YEAH, EXACTLY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: HERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE INSIDE SCOOP ON THE
WHITE HOUSE, RIGHT?
LIKE THE PRESIDENT CALLS YOU EVERY MORNING AND SAYS, "WHAT
SHOULD I THINK, JOE?" RIGHT?
BECAUSE HE CALLS YOU-- I KNOW HE WATCHES YOUR SHOW.
WE KNOW HE WATCH YOURSELF SHOW EVERY DAY.
>> WE THINK HE DOES, BASED ON HIS TWITTER FIELD, YES.
>> Stephen: THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW ANYTHING DID DONALD
TRUMP.
>> EXACTLY.
>> Stephen: WEAN HE'S FINE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF HIS TWITTER
FEED.
>> IT'S BEEN KIND OF SILENT.
HE HAS WATCHED THE SHOW FOR YEARS.
EVEN WHEN HE CLAIMS HE'S NOT WATCHING THE SHOW AND SENS OUT
NASTY TWEETS TO US, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE CAMERA AND SAY,
"DONALD, WE KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING THE SHOW, BUT HOW YOU DOING?"
>> Stephen: YOU DON'T SAY, "DONALD" RIGHT?
YOU SAY, "MR. PRESIDENT."
EVEN I SAY, "MR. PRESIDENT."
>> WE'RE IN A TRANSGLIGZ YOU'RE IN A TRANSITION FROM BEING
BUDDIES-- >> THE COUNTRY?
A TRANSITION.
>> Stephen: OH, THE COUNTRY.
>> HE'S BEEN DONALD TRUMP FOREVER.
HE'S BEEN DONALD FOREVER.
IT'S HARD TO START CALLING HIM MR. PRESIDENT.
AND I'LL BE REALLY HONEST WITH YOU, THE WAY HE'S ACTED OR THE
PAST MONTH HAS MADE IT EVEN HARDER TO CALL HIM
"MR. PRESIDENT."
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: YOU-- I'M SORRY.
>> NO, LISTEN, I'M A REPUBLICAN, AND I'M A CONSERVATIVE.
BUT-- LIKE YOU, AND I'M NOT BEING SORT OF SMALTZY.
BUT I'M AN AMERICAN.
I DIDN'T WROTE VOET FOR BILL CLINTON.
THE GUY DROVE ME ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.
BUT WHEN HE PUT HIS HAND UP AND SALUTED OR GAVE HIS OATH, I WAS
CHEERING FOR HIM.
I THINK WE AS AMERICANS SHOULD NOT CHEER AGAINST OUR PRESIDENT,
LIKE RUSH LIMBAUGH SAID HE WAS DOING WITH BARACK OBAMA.
I ACTUALLY THINK WE SHOULD PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT.
BUT THAT REQUIRES ALL OF US AS AMERICANS TO DO WHAT WE CAN WHEN
A PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO BE DOING TO STAND UP
AND DO OUR PARK TOO DISPP RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL AMERICANS, ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS -- AND
LET ME SAY THIS-- EVERYBODY REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE-- THAT
WHEN YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) WHEN YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES THAT QUESTIONS JUDICIAL REVIEW AND QUESTIONS
THE LEGITIMACY OF A FEDERAL JUDGE, TO STAND UP AND SAY,
"THIS IS NOT RIGHT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT OUT."
WHEN YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT ACTUALLY QUESTIONS FREE SPEECH,
THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND NEWS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING
THEIR JOB, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON MY PARTY,
ESPECIALLY, TO STAND UP RIGHT NOW AND SPEAK OUT.
BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY THIS OF EVERYBODY THAT GETS INTO THE
WHITE HOUSE-- YOU THINK YOU'RE AT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD NOW?
YOU DON'T OWN THIS PLACE.
YOU ARE RENTING THIS PLACE OUT.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE LETTING YOU HAVE THIS.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NEEDS TO KNOW THA THERE IS GOING TO BE A
TIME AFTER DONALD TRUMP AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE JUDGED FOR THE
NEXT 50 YEARS ON HOW THEY RESPONDED TO THE CHALLENGES OF
TODAY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> Stephen: YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY GOING FOR THAT.
YOU WERE TOTALLY GOING FOR THAT.
LISTEN, I WISH-- OVER HERE.
OVER HERE!
>> CAN YOU GET ME.
I'M GOING TO JUGGLE NOW.
I HAVE THEM GOING.
>> Stephen: I WISH I SHARED YOUR OPTIMISM THAT THERE WILL BE
A TIME AFTER DONALD TRUMP.
RIGHT NOW I'M A LITTLE WORRIED.
DO YOU THINK-- WHO DO YOU THINK IS CALLING THE SHOTS OVER THERE?
I HAVE HEARD THAT, LIKE, STEVE BANNON IS DRIVING THE BUS.
OBVIOUSLY THE PRESIDENT IS ON THE BUS BUT BANNON IS INVITING
PEOPLE ON AND OFF THE BUS.
STEPHEN MILLER IS ON THE BUS.
REINCE PRIEBUS DOESN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GET ON THE
BUS BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN GFT B GOVERNMENT, AND--
>> YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BUS THING.
>> Stephen: YOU DON'T?
ARE YOU ON THE BUS OR OFF THE BUS, JOE?
>> YOU JUST CONFUSED ME.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS, KNOWING DONALD TRUMP-- THEY ALWAYS SAY
WHO IS THE LAST PERSON IN THE ROOM WHO INFLUENCED DONALD
TRUMP?
DONALD TRUMP IS ALWAYS THE LAST PERSON IN THE ROOM.
DONALD TRUMP IS THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE CHOICES.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TALE OF TWO ADMINISTRATIONS.
YOU LOOK AT THE FOREIGN POLICY ADVISERS HE'S PUT OUT THERE,
THEY'RE PRETTY SOLID.
>> Stephen: McMASTER SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE BEST DECISION
TRUMP HAS MADE.
>> GREAT SESSION.
THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, MATTIS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK HE GOT HIM JUST BECAUSE HIS NICKNAME WAS
"MAD DOG."
SOMEBODY SAID HE THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING PATTON, BUT IN THE END
HE ENDED UP GETTING A REAL STATESMAN AND SOMEBODY LIKE
GENERAL MARSHALL.
BUST YOU LOOK AT THE FOREIGN POLICY TEAM, HE HAS STRONG
PEOPLE ACTUALLY WILL GIVE HIM AGREEMENT ADVICE.
WE CAN RELAX ABOUT THAT.
MY BIGGER PROBLEM IS THE INSIDE CIRCLE.
THERE ARE NOBODY IN THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT CAN GO IN
AND TELL THIS PRESIDENT NO.
THAT'S BAD.
IT'S HAPPENED WITH PAST ADMINISTRATIONS, BUT SINCE HE
HAS NO GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE, HE NEEDS THAT, AND WE NEED THAT AS
A COUNTRY, SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT THE EXWUTS TO GO IN AND STAND UP
AND SAY THIS IS WRONG.
INSTEAD YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE STEPHEN MILLER-- OR AS MIKA
CALLS HIM, "THE LITTLE DICTATOR."
THINK ABOUT THAT FAIR SECOND.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW LARGE HIS DICTATOR IS.
>> I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MIKA'S SUGGESTION.
HE GOES ON TV AND SAYS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CAN'T BE QUESTIONED.
>> Stephen: WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED.
>> WILL NOTE BE QUESTIONED.
I'M SORRY, THAT'S A LITTLE FRIGHTENING.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
>> ACTUALLY, THAT'S VERY FRIGHTENING.
THAT'S SCARY AS HELL.
>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND, IF YOU COMPLIMENT DONALD TRUMP, HE
LIKES YOU PRETTY INSTANTLY.
AND THAT IF YOU SAY SOMETHING NOT NICE ABOUT HIM, HE DISLIKES
YOU ALMOST INSTANTLY.
>> YOU KNOW, I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT --
>> Stephen: YOU KNOW HIM, RIGHT?
YOU KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS PRESIDENT.
>> JUST TO PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE, ONE OF THE INTERESTING
THINGS OF OUR RELATIONSHIP THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IS I'VE
ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO BE VERY BLUNT WITH HIM, GIVEN HIM REALLY
TOUGH ADVICE.
WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GIULIANI OR BOLTEN AS BEING
SECRETARY OF STATE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING A FRIENDLY
CONVERSATION.
I SAID, "YEAH, YOU CAN PICK THEM AS SECRETARY OF STATE.
JUST KNOW THAT MIKA AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY KILL YOU ON THE SHOW
FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS."
WE, OF COURSE, SAID IT ON TV.
THERE'S NEVER ANYTHING WE SAY IN PERSON THAT WE DON'T SAY ON TV.
BUT -- >> Stephen: REALLY?
( LAUGHTER ) SO THERE'S NOTHING YOU'RE GOING
TO SAY TO ME WHEN THE CAMERA GOES OFF THAT YOU WON'T SAY
RIGHT NOW.
>> I SWEAR A LOT MORE TO HIM OFF-- OFF CAMERA, AND I'M A
LITTLE MORE EMPHATIC.
CHRIS HAS SEEN THAT.
A LITTLE MORE EMPHATIC.
HE DOESN'T-- THERE JUST AREN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE
THE NERVE IN THE INNER CIRC TOLL STAWND --
>> Stephen: WHY DON'T YOU APPLY FOR A JOB, JOE?
>> I AM.
I'M GOING TO PLAY WITH YOUR BAND.
THAT'S MY JOB.
>> Stephen: WE'LL SEE.
WE'LL SEE.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ACT TO THIS.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE JOE SCARBOROUGH.