- And throw.
Ooh, I love it
- Also we're in Vegas.
(both laughing)
- Yahtzee
(warping electronic music)
- Hi, I'm Alyssa.
- And I'm Motoki, and this is Expert Amateur Fraud,
a show where we try to figure out who the expert is
and who's faking it.
- Today. We're going to be interviewing three,
(Alyssa gasping)
- Psychics. - Psychics!
- Whoa! - Oh my gosh!
- It's funny, I knew that was actually going to be in there.
- Did you?
You're so funny.
(Motoki laughing)
And I knew you were gonna say that.
- I'm very skeptical though, I will be honest.
I don't necessarily believe that there are people
who can just read your mind.
- Let's try really quick.
Think of a fruit and look me in the eye
when and you think of it.
(high pitched synth drone)
- I'm thinking about it. What is it?
- Pineapple.
- It actually was.
(Motoki laughing)
That's crazy.
- I'm looking into every camera.
- I had pineapple this morning, so...
- Okay. - How did you think of that?
- I felt it, I just felt it.
Anytime I've ever done a tarot reading,
they always pull the death card,
but they're like, "that's good.
Death means new beginning."
I think they just say that 'cause,
you know, I'm gonna die.
(electronic beeping)
- Hi, lovely to meet you, my name's Elyza.
So my focus is palmistry or chiromancy,
otherwise known as palm reading,
but it really is so much more than that.
I mostly focus on the type
that's most often portrayed in media, frankly,
which is the Indian and Romani traditions.
- Okay.
- So I'd love to do a reading on either of you.
- Oh! - Oo!
- [Elyza] Yes - I'm Down!
- I would love it!
So.
- And if you could present your hand to me like this,
- Yeah, which one does it matter?
- Your dominant hand tells you what you choose
based on your freewill,
Whereas your non dominant hand
is what our ancestors have given us. Ancestral wisdom.
- Whoa!
- Yes, yes. - I got chills!
I'm kind of in to what my ancestors want for me.
- Excellent, excellent.
- Should we what? Love?
- Gotta do it like this.
- Oh sorry, sorry.
- So romantic love?
- Sure. Yeah.
- Okay, so do you mind if I touch your hand?
- Yeah, absolutely.
- Oh so your heart line, which is this line right here,
I will show you right there,
spears off into two different directions
right around your mound of Jupiter.
And the mound of Jupiter is associated with pride.
So you have a deep heart line,
which shows you feel very intensely,
but there's two things,
pride may get in the way
of some of your romantic relationships.
- That's true.
- Yes. And you know, pride often stems from insecurity.
- I am insecure.
- Yes.
And I'd be really curious to see on your dominant hand,
if that's okay with you.
- Yeah, let's check it out.
- I have some wonderful news.
- Okay, thank you.
- Your heart line is not hugging your mound of Jupiter
on your dominant hand.
So you have overcome that pride.
- So it doesn't say anything on there,
like who I will marry?
(Motoki laughing)
- Again, we have freewill,
I can't predict a specific person.
I can't say his name is going to be Josh
and he's going to be a DJ.
- [Alyssa] Sure.
- But I can tell you, you know,
how you can impact your own relationships,
and what you can look for, and what you need to be aware of.
Let me start with your non-dominant.
- Okay.
- Again, because ancestral warnings.
Hmm.
Yeah.
So for this, I'm paying close attention to your headline,
your lifeline and your mound of mercury.
Because your mound of mercury dictates how you think,
how you process logic, how you express yourself.
And I'm seeing lots of tiny markings on that
right here, here, and here, right above a vein,
which indicates to me
that maybe you're a bit more spiritual,
a bit more passionate than you like to let on.
You like to portray this, you know, aura of logic, reason,
but maybe deep down you're a little bit more
spiritual and passionate.
- So do you consider yourself falling into religions at all?
- Yeah. What got me into spirituality originally
is that my grandmother who was Jewish
was very into Kabbalah,
which is a form of Jewish mysticism.
- And when around was that in your life?
- So when I was around 24,
I had a bit of a quarter-life crisis, as they say yes.
- Okay, that's me right now.
- Yeah.
- Yes. Yes.
So I quit my job in reality television
and decided to pursue my own business in palmistry.
- You seem like you're helping people.
- Yeah.
- You helped me. I feel like Elyza for president.
(everyone laughing)
- Honestly, I think a giveaway that someone is faking
their psychic abilities,
is when they go into things that are so overly specific,
there are fraud psychics.
Especially mediums who do background research on people
and then go to them and exploit their grief and their trauma
and try to convince these people that their mediums
when they're actually just charging people for nonsense.
(electronic beeping)
- Hello
- [Motoki] Come on in.
- [Alyssa] Hi. Welcome.
- Hi. Natalya. - Nice to meet you. Hello. Hello.
- Nice to meet you. - Hi. Alyssa.
- So a little bit about me,
is that I deal with manifestation in particular,
financial abundance, your love life,
and really just using crystals, ruin art,
and just realistically journaling in order to do that.
- All right.
- Sounds good. I like all of this.
I'm ready to manifest.
- Are you guys on TikTok by any means?
I'm going to reference TikTok a lot.
- Yeah. - Yeah. I got you.
(Natalya laughing)
- Just like, yes!
- Did you just dab?
- I dabbed because I'm a millennial.
- I'm so glad I didn't see that.
- This crystal, according to the users of TikTok,
they say when it comes to manifesting,
it really is an amplifier.
When I got moldavite
I broke up with my ex in literally a week.
And then after that I moved the second week
and then the third week I booked like three acting jobs
and four modeling gigs.
- Whoa. - Whoa.
It was like, just so much all at the same time.
- And you attribute it to the moldavite?
- Yeah, I did.
- Now, what would you say to people that get a crystal,
- Yes?
- And nothing happens?
- So the first thing that I would say
is make sure that your crystal is charged. Make sure.
- What if it's charged?
So if it is charged,
- I got some crystals and I didn't get any money.
(laughing)
- So that's what comes into like, the journals
and that comes into the journal play.
- Are you going to show us your journal?
- Yeah. Yeah.
- Oh, my gosh.
- Top secret! - Top secret!
- Yeah, top secret.
All right, so everything that is highlighted
has been stuff that I have manifested into my life.
- While you're down your goals and what you're striving for,
how does the crystal play into it?
- So essentially again, it's an amplifier.
You want to either hold the crystal in your hand
and actively visualize you're getting a check
from your employer and it's $5,000.
But it's honestly, just really using the crystals
and using the energy and tools around you
in order to take you to the next level
of your dream life, per se,
I personally believe that everybody does have
some innate nature psychic ability
that they can all tap into.
And it's to really inspire them that they too,
can grow and progress in ways
that they never even imagined they could do before.
(electronic beeping)
- [Alyssa] Yay!
- [Motoki] Howdy. Howdy. Come on in.
- Hi, how are you? I'm Mystic Dylan.
So today I thought I would share with you cleromancy,
or the art of throwing bones, and tarot.
When you ask a question or you ask the spirits,
you throw the bones and depending on where they fall,
that kind of reveals the answer.
- Ooh.
- It's like an O.G. magic 8 ball, in a sense.
- Essentially, yes.
- Are these actual animal bones?
- Yes they are, and they're ethically sourced.
So I'm going to start with you,
- Okay.
- because I feel this like barrier.
- Oh.
- Wow. And that's true.
- Yeah, yeah.
- He's more the skeptic.
I'm very open.
- I know.
- I'm like...
- Girl I got you.
- I know. I'm ready. I'm ready for my bones.
- So what would you like to look at?
- Oh, gosh.
- Be real.
- You can tell me if this is a good question or not,
but like am I on the right path in life?
- Yes, you can do a yes and no,
but there's always a question behind the yes or no.
- Sure. Okay.
- Why don't we throw bones in regards to your path in life?
- Okay.
- I can't wait. I hope I'm on there.
- So shake, shake, shake, shake, shake, shake,
and throw!
- [Mystic Dylan] Oh, I love it.
- [Alyssa] Ooh, wow.
- [Mystic Dylan] Good throw.
- That was awesome. We're in Vegas.
- Awesome.
- Yahtzee!
- What I want to direct you to is these rib cages.
And rib cages, what do they do?
They protect our organs.
There's a lot of protection that I see here.
While I think that there is a sense of confidence,
and I see you going far.
I also think that there's a part of you
that is going to have to strip off that armor
and take more leaps of faith.
But also garnet and malachite,
two stones also associated with finance and prosperity.
Don't make everything about money
and don't make everything about success.
I think there needs to be more that you need to focus on.
- Okay. Interesting. - Whoa.
- Yeah. I like that.
- That was freaking cool.
- Let's do a bone throwing for you real quick.
- I wanna throw the bones.
- So let's do a general with emphasis on journey.
- [Alyssa] I'm scared. Oops One's popping out.
- No, it's okay. If they fall, they fall. Just go.
- Okay, ready?
- Yeah, roll.
I love it.
And if they stay, that's fine too.
Now, because we have the rib bones here.
You kind of protect yourself from speaking out
or being vocalizing.
Your in fear of being viewed in a different way or judged.
To me there's a trauma that you might've been through
that you kind of protect yourself from.
That may be something you need to share on a bigger level.
Okay.
- Really?
- An experience that you either had within yourself
or you might've witnessed or seen in others. Okay.
That may help you.
And not saying that you're going to profit off that,
but there's definitely something, you have a story to tell.
And then what's interesting, see the rib bone flipped?
See how, if it's facing you, that's you protecting yourself.
I see you're protecting others through your story
or through what you have to share.
- Well, that's pretty cool.
I'm getting emotional. I don't know why.
I mean, I know why.
- Here, let's pull one card.
- Dylan is real!
(everyone laughing)
- Let's pull one card.
- I hope you're not a fraud. I'm crying.
Uh-oh. - Can I look in here.
- Is that death?
- No, it is not death.
- I always pull death!
Anytime I've ever done a tarot reading,
they always pull the death card.
- It's not physical death.
- I know.
- Death is change.
- Are you just saying.
- No. Death is change, death is transition.
You are on a transition to a bigger path.
And as I said, I really see it won,
where you are sharing a story
or sharing something to help others.
- Oh my gosh. Wow. You're spot on and thank you for that.
I'm trying to get myself together. I'm like I'm a comedian.
- You want a hug?
- Sure, give me a hug. Thank you so much.
- And what I'm going to do,
I'm going to give you this malachite.
- What? - There we go.
- Oh, my God.
- You need it, it'll help you on your journey.
- Thank you so much. Oh my gosh. That's so sweet.
- A lot of people throw the word psychic round,
but psychic is an umbrella term.
If you look at the root word psychic, it's psyche,
the ancient Greek word for soul.
So to me, someone who is a psychic
is someone who taps in or can read your soul.
It's a personal connection.
- Wow. I feel open, raw.
I feel...
- Raw.
- Goodness. Well obviously like,
I guess I want to start with Mystic Dylan.
- Mystic Dylan.
- which is an iconic name.
- He's definitely up there, you know.
- Yeah.
Expert, most likely. Maybe amateur.
- If Mystic Dylan is not the expert,
I don't know what's going.
- What is he doing?
- I don't know what he's doing,
but he was doing something iconic.
- Elyza?
- She seemed legit.
- [Motoki] Yeah.
- Did you feel like you related to what she was saying?
- Um.
- You're a bit more spiritual that were passionate
than you'd like to let on?
- No.
(both laughing)
- Okay. Now what about Natalya?
- She's definitely passionate about it.
I feel like she is very into it, but I don't know how...
- Yeah.
- how many years under her belt she has.
I actually personally think Elyza might be the fraud.
- Really?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
I don't think Elyza's the fraud.
- Well, maybe we can kind of manifest it.
- Should we? Yeah, okay.
- Close your eyes for a couple of seconds.
- Okay.
- Elyza. - Elyza.
- Okay.
(both singing tones)
(digital beeping)
- [Alyssa] Whoo. Welcome back.
- [Both] Come on in.
- Jinx.
(Alyssa laughing)
- After much deliberation.
- Much deliberation.
We thought that Mystic Dylan was the expert.
The reason mainly is because he got me to cry.
There was just something really, like genuine.
- I feel like you were able to speak to our hearts,
a little bit.
- Yeah. Oh, I'm nervous.
(drum roll)
(ding)
- Yay.
- Yes. Oh, my gosh. That's really cool, actually.
- One of the strangest things someone has asked me
when they found out I was psychic,
they immediately pulled me.
They're like, "great, can you help me find my keys?"
And that kind of threw me off.
And I was like, oh yes, hold on. Let me tap in.
- So Natalya, we thought that you were the amateur.
- Okay.
- We just, we felt like you were super-duper knowledgeable.
- Yeah.
- And kind of like seemingly really, really interested
in like becoming an expert.
(Alyssa exhaling)
(heart beat)
- It's me.
(laughing)
(drum roll)
(ding)
- Whoa! You were right.
Good job
- Wow! Okay.
- Hey, if they don't think that I'm the fraud,
I feel like I did an accurate job.
- So, Elyza, you were the fraud.
(ding) - Yes
- Do you know anything about palm reading?
- How did you do that? You were just, kind of off the dome.
- Yes. So YouTube videos about palmistry.
I'm not psychic. You might be, you might be.
I lied about my Nana for this.
She was not into Kabbalah, but she would find this funny,
Rest In Peace.
Who little lies about their grandmother,
a crazy jerk.
I've not worked in reality TV. I don't feel bad about that.
- And that was made up? Oh, my gosh.
- 100% Non-GMO, organic, FDA certified (bleep).
- You're a different person now.
- I'm a different person after my experience
with Mystic Dylan.
(mystic music)
- That hit you.
- I can't stop thinking about it, really.
- I will say, I'm still kind on the fence about it.
- Wow. Still a skeptic.
- And I don't want to sound, I don't wanna say this.
- That's okay.
- They did a great job. Honestly.
- Yeah. I think that's healthy.
Being skeptical, I think is healthy.
And I gravitate towards people like you
because I'm just like, "oh, I believe everything."
- So I'm still doubtful,
but maybe y'all have had some experiences yourselves.
Leave us some comments down below
if you've had any experiences with psychics.
- I'm sure it wasn't as good as mine with Mystic Dylan.
- Did you cry? Let us know.
(upbeat music)