WE'RE HERE WITH ANDREW GARFIELD, THE STAR OF "SILENCE" AND
"HACKSAW RIDGE."
IN THE NEW MOVIE "SILENCE," YOU PLAY A JESUIT MISSIONARY-- WE
HAD ADAM DRIVER ON THE OTHER NIGHT.
THE TWO OF YOU PLAY MISSIONARIES WHO GO TO JAPAN WHEN JAPAN IS
CLOSED TO TRY TO FIND LIAM NEESON.
DID YOU HAVE TO STUDY-- ( LAUGHTER ).
>> AND HE PLAYS HIMSELF IN THE FILM.
>> Stephen: YEAH, YEAH.
HE'S THAT GOOD.
>> THAT GOOD AND -- >> DID YOU HAVE TO STUDY-- DID
YOU STUDY TO BE'S JESUIT?
>> I STUDIED WITH A MUTUAL FRIEND OF OURS, FATHER JAMES
MART GLIN HE WAS THE CHAPLAIN OF COLBERT NATION.
>> AND SOMEONE I LOVE AS DEARLY AS YOU SEEM TO.
I STUDIED WITH HIM FOR A YEAR AND I WENT THROUGH THE NATION
SPIRITUAL EXERCISE S.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU DO?
I NEVER ACTUALLY STUDY WITH A JESUIT.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO.
WHAT DO YOU DO TO GET READY FOR IT?
>> YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO WE STUDY THE THEOLOGY AND THE
HISTORY OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS, BUT THERE'S THESE PROCESSES
CALLED THE SPIRITUAL EXERCISES THAT ST. IGNATIUS CREATED WHEN
HE FOUNDED THE ORDER.
AND IT'S KIND OF THE BASIS FOR ALL 12-STEP PROGRAMS AROUND THE
WORLD, A.A. BEING THE FIRST.
AND IT'S THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL PROCESS WHERE YOU DO THE
IMAGINATIVE, MEDITATIVE PRAYERS WITH THE LIFE OF JESUS, WHERE
YOU PLACE YOURSELF IN EACH SCENE, MUCH LIKE BEING AN ACTOR.
I FOUND OUT STANISLAV SKI WHO INVENTED MODERN ACTING WAS
DEEPLY INSPIRED BY ST. IGNATIUS' SPIRITUAL EXERCISES SO I FELT
KIND OF RIGHT AT HOME AND IT'S THIS VERY WEIRD THING WHERE YOU
CREATE A VERY DEEP RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT JESUS.
I HADN'T REALLY STUDIED THE BIBLE.
AS I SAID, I'M KIND OF AN AGNOSTIC, BUT I DISCOVERED THE
JESUITS THEMSELVES ARE INCREDIBLY PANTHEISTS.
>> Stephen: LIKE ZEUS AND THOSE PEOPLE.
LIKE PAYING ANS?
>> NO, NO, I WOULD NEVER-- DON'T GET ME IN TROUBLE WITH FATHER
MARTIN.
IT'S HOW I HEAR THAT IS FINDING GOD IN ALL THINGS.
FINDING GOD IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, MEANING FINDING
LOVE IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, FINDING POSSIBILITY IN
EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, FINDING IN THE TREE CUT DOWN TO
MAKE THIS TABLE-- YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY EVERYTHING BECOMES A
MIRACLE.
I LOVE THAT.
I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO SEE THE WORLD AIR, BEAUTIFUL WAY
TO SEE THE WORLD.
( APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: THESE TWO JEZ WITS ARE DEEPLY TESTED.
THESE TWO JESUITS WHO YOU AND ADAM DRIVER PLAY THEIR FAITH IS
DEEPLY TESTED BECAUSE THEY'RE CAPTURED BY THE JAPANESE, TRYING
TO RID JAPAN OF CHRISTIANS AT THE TIME.
AND WE HAVE A SCENE HERE OF THE TWO OF YOU TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT TO DO NOW THAT YOU'RE BEING TESTED.
HOW DO YOU CONTINUE?
JIM?
>> WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF FATHER FERREIRA IS ALIVE OR DEAD.
THE VILLAGERS NEVER EVEN HEARD OF HIM.
THESE PEOPLE ARE SO FRIGHTENED.
IT'S FEAR, AND LICE.
>> THEY HAVE US.
WE COMFORT THEM.
>> HOW MUCH LONGER CAN WE DO THAT?
>> WE ASKED FOR THIS MISSION, WE PRAYED UNDER IN THE EXERCISES.
GOD HEARD US THEN AND HE HEARS US NOW.
>> MAY HE GUIDE US TO FERREIRA SO WE CAN KNOW THE TRUTH.
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: NOW, WHAT PEOPLE
MAY NOTICE IN THAT IS YOU GUYS BOTH LOVELY A TON OF WEIGHT, YOU
LOST A TON OF WEIGHT FOR THAT.
HOW MUCH DID YOU LOSE?
>> I LOST 40 POUNDS-ISH.
AND I'M A SKINNY GUY ANYWAY.
>> Stephen: ADAM DRIVER SAID HE LOST 50 WINS.
>> HE WINS, HE WON.
>> Stephen: HE'S 10 POUNDS BETTER ACTOR.
HOW DID YOU LOSE 40 POUNDS?
>> GOODNESS, YOU JUST KIND OF DON'T EAT.
>> Stephen: THAT WILL DO IT.
>> AND GET ANGRY, GET VERY, VERY ANGRY AT EVERYTHING AROUND YOU.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PROCESS.
>> Stephen: DOES THE NOT EATING MAKE YOU ANGRY.
>> >> Stephen: HAS ANYONE GONE
THROUGH A FAST.
>> IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SPIRITUAL PROCESS, BECAUSE THE IDEA IS YOU
EMPTY OUT SO ALL OF THE SPIRITS CAN ENTER.
AND, MY GOODNESS, I WAS EMPTY, AND IT WAS-- IT WAS BRUTAL.
YOU KNOW, WE WOULD KIND OF BE SNEAKING BLUEBERRIES AND ALMONDS
IN BETWEEN TAKES.
A LITTLE BIT OF CHEAT DISPLG YOU DID A WEEK OF SILENCE, RIGHT?
>> SILENT RETREAT.
MYSELF AND ADAM TOGETHER.
WE DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER VERY WELL AT THAT POINT.
AND HE KIND OF ARRIVED TWO DAYS AFTER ME, AND WE KIND OF WAVED
TO EACH OTHER.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU DO ON A SILENT RETREAT?
IS THERE A LOT OF MIME?
LIKE AAAH!
I'M SAD.
HEARTBROKEN.
WHAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SAID TO EACH OTHER WHEN YOU COULD
FIRST-- LIKE, AFTER A WEEK, WHEN YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK
AND YOU HAVEN'T REALLY MET BEFORE, WHAT'S THE FIRST THING
YOU SAID TO EACH OTHER?
>> WE HAD THESE SEVEN DAYS AND IT WAS SO FULL OF THIS KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, DIVINE ATTEMPT TO PRAY AND TO MEDITATE AND TO GET CLOSE
TO THOSE DEEP INNER VOICES AND THE SPIRITUAL KIND OF
EXPLORATION WE WERE DOING.
AND I THINK WE GOT INTO THE CAR, AND IT WAS AS IF THE DEVIL IN
BOTH OF US SAID WHERE THE (BLEEP) HAVE YOU BEEN?
BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THE MOST DISGUSTING, DIRTY, AWFUL, DARK
CONVERSATION FOR THREE HOURS ON THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT.
BECAUSE WE HAD, HAD-- IT WAS LIKE-- IT WAS LIKE THE DEVIL
FELT SO LEFT OUT OF THE LAST SEVEN DAYS THAT HE JUST CAME AND
MADE US SAY THE WORST, LIKE NASTY-- I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER.
I'VE, LIKE, BLOCKED IT OUT.
WE JUST-- WE WENT TO THE DARKEST PLACE FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS.
>> Stephen: DID YOU TALK ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF WITH MEL
GIBSON, BY THE WAY?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: WE HAD MEL ON HERE AND HE BELIEVES THE DEVIL IS
REAL AND AROUND US AND FIGHTING ALL THE TIME.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN ANY OF THAT STUFF?
>> I BELIEVE IN THAT AS METAPHOR.
I BELIEVE IN AS ENERGY.
I BELIEVE IN IT AS OUR BETTER ANGELS.
ABSOLUTELY.
AND ALSO, TO BE HONEST, CERTAINTY, CERTAINTY ABOUT
ANYTHING IS THE MOST TERRIFYING THING TO ME.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU MEAN CERTAINTY IS TERRIFYING?
>> CERTAINTY IS TERRIFYING?
>> Stephen: YES.
>> I MEAN -- >> IF YOU KNOW THERE WAS AN
AFTERLIFE, WOULD THAT BE COMFORTING OR TERRIFYING?
>> HOW WOULD I EVER KNOW.
>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW.
>> BUT, WHAT I MEAN IS -- >> A VISITATION FROM AN ANGEL.
THIEWBT?
>> SURE, BUT I WOULD QUESTION IT.
YOU THINK ABOUT THOMAS MARTIN, THE GREAT TRAPPIST MONK AND
PHILOSOPHER, REALLY.
HIS DOUBT WAS HIS GREATEST ALLY.
HE WAS ALWAYS CONSTANTLY DOUBTING.
I THINK A LIFE OF FAITH IS NOT A LIFE OF CERTAINTY.
A LIFE OF FAITH IS A LIFE OF DOUBT.
AND I THINK IT IS SO HEALTHY TO DOUBT.
IT IS SO HEALTH TOW DOUBT ONESELF, IT IS SO HEALTHY TO
DOUBT ANY ASSUMPTION WE MAKE ABOUT HOW TO LIVE.
AND I THINK-- WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY CERTAINTY SCARES ME,
CERTAINTY STARTS WAR.
CERTAINTY STARTS WAR ON BEHALF OF IDEOLOGY.
CERTAINTY, "I KNOW AND YOU DON'T."
THAT'S THE SCARIEST THING TO ME.
AND WHAT A HUMAN BEING IS CAPABLE OF DOING.
( APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: ANDREW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
"SILENCE" IS IN THEATERS NOW.
ANDREW GARFIELD, EVERYBODY.