UP BY THE END OF JUNE, POSSIBLY
A FEW DAYS INTO JULY.
CHARLES?
>> THANKS, DAVID.
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"
EDITORIAL BOARD VOICING CONCERN
IN THE WAKE OF THE ALLEGED PLOT
TO KILL JUSTICE KAVANAUGH, THIS
IS ALL THE MORE WORRISOME
BECAUSE THE COURT IS MORE
VULNERABLE TO ACTS OF VIOLENCE.
THERE’S ONLY NINE JUSTICES AND A
SINGLE VOTE CAN CHANGE THE CASE.
THERE’S TYPICALLY A PERIOD OF
WEEKS OR MONTHS IN AN ORAL
ARGUMENT THAT CAN BEHIND HOW
JUSTICES ARE LEANING.
SO WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE?
WE WANT TO BRING IN THE HOST OF
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL," GERRY
BAKER THAT JOINS US.
GERRY, IT WAS SO DISTURBING TO
FIND OUT NOT ONLY WAS THIS MAN
STALKING JUSTICE KAVANAUGH BUT
THE ARMORMENTS AND THE
PREPARATION THAT HE HAD TAKEN.
IT’S A BLESSING THAT APPARENTLY
HE SAW THE POLICE THERE, A LARGE
POLICE PRESENCE AND DECIDED
AGAINST IT.
SHOULDN’T THAT BE THE ULTIMATE
SIGNAL FOR ALL OF US?
>> YEAH, SHOULD BE A VERY
WORRYING MYMENT.
THIS MORNING THE COURT IS
PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE.
NEW TO POLITIC ONLY IMAGINE WHAT
WOULD HAVE HAPPEN IF GOT FORBID
IF SOMEONE WERE ABLE TO
ASSASSINATE A JUSTICE.
IT WOULD NOT ONLY CHANGE THE
OUTCOME OF A CASE WHERE THERE’S
A 5-4 DECISION PENDING, IMAGINE
WHAT IT WOULD DO IF YOU HAD
ANOTHER -- THE PRESIDENT --
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WOULD HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT A
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE OF HIS OWN
PERSUASION TO APPOINT AN
ASSASSINATED CONSERVATIVE
JUSTICE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE
EXTRAORDINARY DAMAGE THAT THAT
WOULD DO TO THE COUNTRY, TO
POLITICS, TO EVERYTHING ELSE.
DEMOCRATS ARE FOCUSED.
WE’VE SEEN THEM CONDUCT THEIR
INVESTIGATION INTO THE JANUARY 6
RIOT.
THAT INVESTIGATION CONTINUES.
THAT WAS A TERRIBLE DAY FOR
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.
BUT THIS THREAT TO COURT
JUSTICES AND THE WIDER THREAT
THAT WE’RE HEARING FROM THESE
PEOPLE THAT ARE AGITATED AND
WHAT THE COURT MAY COME UP WITH,
THAT’S AS BIG OF A THREAT TO THE
CONSTITUTION RIGHT NOW AND IT’S
NOT BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY
ENOUGH.
>> Martha: YOU THINK SPEAKER
PELOSI IS TAKING IT SERIOUSLY?
>> DOESN’T LOOK LIKE IT.
HE’S -- WHY HAVEN’T THEY COME
OUT -- CAN YOU IMAGINE, CHARLES,
IF THIS HAD BEEN A RIGHT WING
EXTREMIST THREATENING TO
ASSASSINATE SONYA SOTOMAYOR, ONE
OF THE PROGRESSIVE JUSTICES?
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE MEDIA AND
POLITICAL REACTION?
WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS
NONSTOP.
SPEAKER PELOSI WOULD BE OUT
THERE WITH CONDEMNATIONS AND ALL
KINDS OF PLANS TO PROTECT THE
JUSTICES.
THEY DO HAVE THIS PLAN, THIS
BILL, WHICH IS PASSED THE SENATE
WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
THE HOUSE HAS PRESIDENT VOTED ON
IT.
WHY NOT?
WHY NOT THE URGENCY TO DEAL WITH
THAT WHEN IT’S SHOWING URGENCY
TO DEAL WITH AN INVESTIGATION OF
AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED 18 MONTHS
AGO?
WHY NOT THE URGENCY TO DEAL WITH
A THREAT THAT GOES TO THE
NATION’S SUPREME COURT?
THEY DON’T TAKE IT THAT
SERIOUSLY.
>> Charles: IT’S HEART BREAKING.
THERE’S CERTAIN THINGS THAT
SHOULD -- SHOULDN’T MATTER.
SHOULD BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
POLITICAL AISLE.
KEEPING THE SUPREME COURT
JUSTICES SAFE.
SO WE HAVE THIS DRAFT.
WE HEARD DAVID SPUNT THAT
SUGGEST THAT MAY BE -- THERE’S
SPECULATION THAT CHIEF JUSTICE
ROBERTS MAY TRY TO BROKER
SOMETHING NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS
THE DRAFT.
IF THAT HAPPENS, THERE WILL BE
SOME FOLKS THAT MIGHT BELIEVE
THAT THREATS, THE SUPREME COURT
WAS BULLIED.
CAN WE -- I DON’T WANT TO ENTER
IN AN ERA THAT WE’RE WORRIED
THAT DECISIONS MADE BY THE
SUPREME COURT ARE BASED IN PART
ON INTIMIDATION.
ARE WE -- ARE YOU CONCERNED
ABOUT THAT?
>> YEAH, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
IT.
THAT WAS -- LOOK, WE DON’T KNOW
WHO LEAKED THAT.
THE STRONG SUSPICION IS IT WAS
SOMEONE ON THE PROGRESSIVE SIDE,
A CLERK OR SOMEONE THAT GOT
ACCESS TO THE DRAFT OPINION THAT
WAS OFFERED WHY JUSTICE ALITO.
IF IT WAS THAT, SOMEONE LIKE
THAT, PART OF THE MOTIVATION WAS
TO TRY TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE
JUSTICES BEFORE THEY CAME TO A
FINAL DECISION TO CHANGE THE
DECISION, BRING PUBLIC PRESSURE.
YEAH, MAYBE THE PRESSURE OF
DIRECT ENTIMDATION.
IT’S DISTURBING.
ALL I’M GOING TO SAY, IT’S
UNLIKELY.
THE DRAFT VOTE, THE INITIAL VOTE
THAT WAS TAKEN 5-4, IN FAVOR OF
OVERTURNING ROW V WADE WITH
JUSTICE ROBERTS IN THE MINORITY
ON THAT, IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKELY
TO ME THAT THEY’RE -- THAT THAT
VOTE WILL CHANGE.
DAVID SPUNT SAID THE SAME THING.
WE’VE HEARD NO INDICATION THAT
DELIBERATIONS HAVE GONE THE
OTHER WAY.