19 PAST THE HOUR NOW.
THIS FROM YESTERDAY IF YOU WERE
WATCHING.
FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN
ATTORNEY MICHAEL SUSSMAN FOUND
NOT GUILTY OF LYING TO THE
F.B.I. BUT DESPITE THAT
ACQUITTAL THE TRIAL WAS
REVEALING.
JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE
WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY LAW
PROFESSOR WITH ME NOW.
WATCHING A LOT OF WHAT YOU WERE
WRITING YESTERDAY.
A LOT OF WHAT YOU WERE TWEETING
YESTERDAY AS WELL.
DID THE JURY GET IT RIGHT OR
NOT?
>> YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL I DO
THINK THERE ARE GOOD FAITH
REASONS WHY THE JURY MIGHT NOT
HAVE FOUND THAT ALL THE
ELEMENTS WERE SATISFIED BUT I
DON’T BELIEVE THAT THE JURY GOT
IT RIGHT.
I THINK THAT SUSSMAN CLEARLY
LIED AND I BELIEVE IT WAS
MATERIAL TO THE INVESTIGATION.
MANY OF US HAD RAISED CONCERNS
OVER THE COURSE OF THIS TRIAL
ABOUT THE JUDGE’S RULINGS.
THE JUDGE NARROWED THE SCOPE OF
POTENTIAL EVIDENCE AND
ARGUMENTS THAT COULD BE RAISED
BY THE PROSECUTORS.
THEY WERE ALSO FACING WHAT I
THINK NO ONE COULD SERIOUSLY
ARGUE WAS NOT A VERY FAVORABLE
JURY FOR THE DEFENSE.
YOU HAD THREE CLINTON DONORS,
AOC DONOR, ONE JUROR WHOSE
DAUGHTER WAS SERVING ON THE
SAME TEAM AS SUSSMAN’S DAUGHTER.
I THINK THE JUDGE DID COMMIT
ERRORS IN ALLOWING A COUPLE OF
THOSE JURORS TO BE SEATED BUT
THIS WAS A UNANIMOUS VERDICT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK
THAT THE JURY GOT IT WRONG.
I THINK THE EVIDENCE WAS QUITE
COMPELLING AND CLEAR BUT
ULTIMATELY MY VIEW DOESN’T
COUNT IN TERMS OF THAT VERDICT.
>> Bill: LET ME GO THROUGH A
FEW THINGS WITH YOU HERE.
IN 2016, VOTERS IN WASHINGTON,
D.C. CHOSE HILLARY CLINTON 91%
TO 4% OVER DONALD TRUMP.
I READ THAT AND I SAY WHY DON’T
YOU MOVE THE TRIAL?
DID THEY PRESS FOR MOVING THE
TRIAL OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C.?
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE "WALL
STREET JOURNAL" THAT COMES UP
WITH THIS FINAL CONCLUSION ON
THE SUSSMAN TRIAL THE VERDICT.
WE LEARNED THAT HILLARY CLINTON
PERSONALLY APPROVED LEAKING THE
FALSE CLAIM TO A REPORTER AND
THE CAMPAIGN AND MRS. CLINTON
TWEETED THE PRESS REPORT
APPROVINGLY.
JUST ON THAT POINT, HOW COULD
THAT BE SIGNIFICANT DOWN THE
ROAD, IF AT ALL?
>> WELL, THAT’S WHY I CALLED
THIS A NIGHTMARE JURY POOL FOR
THE PROSECUTORS.
THEY CAN SOMETIMES FACE THE
SAME PROBLEM OBVIOUSLY IN
CONSERVATIVE JURIS DICK SHUNS
BUT AT 91% THIS WAS JUST NINE
PERCENTAGE POINTS FROM PICKING
A JURY OF THE DNC HEADQUARTERS.
IT DOESN’T MEAN THESE JURORS
CANNOT BE IMPARTIAL.
BUT ANYONE WOULD REASONABLY SAY
THIS WAS ONE OF THE LEAST
FAVORED JURIS DICK SHUNS FOR
THE PROSECUTORS.
THOSE CONCERNS WERE MAGNIFIED
WHEN ONE JUROR REPORTEDLY TOLD
THEIR REPORTER FROM THE TIMES
SHE DIDN’T SEE WHY IT SHOULD BE
A GREAT CONCERN.
LYING TO THE F.B.I. IS NOT A
BIG DEAL.
THAT’S LIKE A JUROR COMING OUT
OF AN ARSON VERDICT SAYING THAT
FIRE IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
THAT WAS THE -- THAT’S THE
FOCUS OF THE TRIAL.
IF SHE HAD SAID THAT IN VOIR
DIRE SHE WOULD HAVE LIKELY
GENERATED A CHALLENGE BY
PROSECUTORS.
>> Bill: ON THAT POINT HERE IT
IS THE QUOTE, GUYS.
THERE ARE BIGGER THINGS -- THIS
IS WHAT A JUROR TOLD THE
WASHINGTON TIMES.
THERE ARE BIGGER THINGS THAT
AFFECT THE NATION THAN A
POSSIBLE LIE TO THE F.B.I.
FIVE MONTHS FROM NOW DANCHENKO
IS ON TRIAL FOR FIVE COUNTS OF
LYING TO THE F.B.I.
THE ONE WHO HELPED CONTRIBUTE
AS THE SOURCE OF THE STEELE
DOSSIER.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATION
THEN AFTER GOING THROUGH WHAT
WE SAW YESTERDAY?
>> WELL, THAT CASE IS DIFFERENT
IN A NUMBER OF RESPECTS.
IT IS BEING TRIED ACROSS THE
RIVER IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
BUT ALSO THERE IS A SERIES OF
ALLEGED FALSE STATEMENTS.
AND THE CASE I THINK IS GOING
TO BE MORE OF A CHALLENGE FOR
THE DEFENSE.
SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE A
SPECIAL COUNSEL GEARING UP FOR
THAT.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER JOHN
DURHAM HAS OTHER POTENTIAL
INDICTMENTS THAT MIGHT COME
DOWN.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT MANY OF
HAVE HAS RAISED IS WHETHER HE
WILL BE ALLOWED TO PRODUCE A
REPORT LIKE MUELLER DID.
MANY DEMOCRATS INSISTED THAT A
REPORT BE MADE PUBLIC AFTER THE
END OF THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION.
THE SAME SHOULD BE TRUE WITH
JOHN DURHAM.
WHAT WAS CLEAR FROM THE SUSSMAN
TRIAL WE’RE LOOKING AT AN
ICEBERG OF EVIDENCE WHERE A
SMALL PERCENTAGE WAS ALLOWED
ABOVE THE WATERLINE.
>> Bill: WE’LL WAIT UNTIL THEN.
WE’LL PUT YOU ON STAND BY FOR
THE HEARD AND JOHNNY DEPP
VERDICT.
DON’T GO FAR, SIR, IN
WASHINGTON, D.C.