CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA.
JOINING ME GORDON CHANG,
COLUMNIST, ATTORNEY, AUTHOR OF
THE BOOK, THE COMING COLLAPSE OF
CHINA, GORDON HAS BEEN ALMOST
TWO DECADES WORKING IN SHANGHAI
AND HONG KONG.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
LET'S START WITH THE AFRICA
PROSPERITY, PROSPER - THIS
INITIATIVE ENUNCIATED BY JOHN
BOLTON THE PRESIDENT SECURITY
ADVISOR SEEMS IT COULD NOT HAVE
BEEN MORE POORLY TIMED OR MORE
POORLY - THEN AFRICA, FOR CRYING
OUT LOUD.
>> POORLY EXECUTED AS WELL
BECAUSE IT'S ON RESOURCE.
BOLTON HAS SAID TWO AFRICAN
NATIONS YOU GOT TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN CHINA AND RUSSIA ON ONE
SIDE OR UNITED STATES ON THE
OTHER.
WITH CHINA DUMPING SO MUCH MONEY
IN THERE THAT'S AN EASY QUESTION
FOR THOSE COUNTRIES WHO WILL
LOSE THAT ONE.
IF WE GO TO CHALLENGE THE
CHINESE AND RUSSIANS LET'S DO IT
IN A WAY THAT WE CAN PREVAIL.
WE'VE GOT OTHER PRIORITIES RIGHT
NOW AND THAT IS CERTAINLY MUCH
CLOSER TO HOME BECAUSE YOU HAVE
RUSSIANS COOPERATING WITH THE
VENEZUELANS AND CHINESE PUTTING
VENEZUELA INTO A DEATH TRAP AND
CLEARLY YOU HAVE BOTH MOSCOW AND
BEIJING CHALLENGING US MILES
FROM OUR BORDERS.
LOU: AND WITHOUT APPARENT A
RESPONSE.
THIS IS A CURIOUS, IF YOU WILL,
BIFURCATION OF INTEREST, US
INTERESTS.
WE ARE FOCUSING SUDDENLY ON
AFRICA.
CHINESE FOR THE PAST, AT LEAST
DECADE AND A HALF, BEEN
INVESTING, BUYING AND
CONTROLLING COMMODITIES AND
WHETHER IT BE RARE EARTH OR
METALS AND WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
THEY HAVE SUCH AN ADVANCED IN
THE REGION OF THE AFRICAN
CONTINENT THAT UNIMAGINABLE THAT
THERE WOULD NOT BE A STRATEGY
AND AS YOU SAY, RESOURCES
ARTICULATED BY THE
ADMINISTRATION IF THEY COME UP
WITH SOME SORT OF AFRICAN
INITIATIVE.
>> MOST IMPORTANT THING IN TERMS
OF OUR SECURITY IS WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON OUR SOUTHERN
BORDER.
YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE
LEAVING THEIR COUNTRIES AND THE
REASON WHY BECAUSE THOSE
COUNTRIES ARE DOING VERY POORLY.
THIS WILL BE A CONTINUING
PROBLEM BUT THE UNITED STATES,
AND MINISTRATION IN AND OUT HAVE
NEGLECTED LATIN AMERICA.
YOU CAN THINK BACK TO GRANADA IN
THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION WITH
THAT THE TOP OF OUR FOREIGN
POLICY PRIORITIES.
LOU: IN PANAMA WHICH WE INVADED
AND TO LOOK BACK ON IT IS
UNHELPFUL, I SUPPOSE, AT THIS
POINT.
WE WATCH PRESIDENT AFTER
PRESIDENT IGNORE WHAT IS AN
APPROPRIATE STRATEGIC RESPONSE,
IT WOULD SEEM AT LEAST TO ME,
RATHER THAN INVESTING TRILLIONS
OF DOLLARS AND NOW, BY THE WAY,
CLEVER US MULTINATIONALS ARE
UNDERSTANDING IT'S TIME TO ABOUT
OF CHINA BECAUSE THAT PROMISE
WILL NOT BE FULFILLED.
EVEN THE DENIZENS OF CORPORATE
AMERICA STARTING TO AWAKEN.
THEY ALSO LOST THE OPPORTUNITY
OF INVESTING IN SOUTH AMERICA,
CENTRAL AMERICA AND BUILDING UP
THIS REGION AND CREATING MARKET
MARKETS.
IT IS THE MOST - IT HAS BEEN
GOING ON - BY THE WAY, I'VE BEEN
SAYING IT FOR 20 YEARS, THIS IS
JUST WRONG HEADEDNESS DRIVEN BY
A DIVIDED LOYALTY AMONG US
NATIONALISTS.
>> WHEN YOU GO BACK MILLENNIA,
COUNTRY SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST
BEFORE THEY DO OTHER THINGS.
WE ARE THE OPPOSITE.
[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
THINK ABOUT IT, NOVEMBER 2013
JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE,
SAYS WERE ABANDONING THE MONROE
DOCTRINE.
THE MONROE DOCTRINE IS - THIS IS
THE DOCTRINE THAT THE UNITED
STATES SAYS WERE OPPOSING
COLONIALISM IN OUR REGION.
WHY WOULD WE WANT FREE AND
INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES IN OUR
REGIONS TO BE COLONIES OF
FOREIGN POWERS?
I DON'T GET IT.
LOU: WE ARE BEYOND NOW
COLONIZATION THAT WE ARE TALKING
TO WORLD POWERS THAT ARE NOW IN
THE SUMMER HERE IN SAINT IT'S
PRETTY CLEAR.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN SO MUCH AS A
RIPOSTE IN THE MOST SUBTLE,
NUANCED OR EVEN BIG WAY ON THE
PART OF THE UNITED STATES TO
THEIR INITIATIVE TO ASSERT THEIR
INFLUENCE AND DIRECT OPPOSITION
TO THE UNITED STATES IN THIS
HEMISPHERE.
WHAT ARE WE TO DO?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO HAVE
LEADERSHIP ON THE PART OF THE
WHITE HOUSE TO MAKE SURE THAT
MULTINATIONALS UNDERSTAND THE
IMPORTANCE OF INVESTING IN OUR
REGION.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE
SOMETHING LIKE THAT BY TRYING TO
GET SUPPLY CHAINS OUT OF CHINA.
IF WE GET THEM OUT OF CHINA WE
CAN GET THEM INTO OUR REGION AND
TIE THEIR ECONOMIES MORE CLOSELY
TWO HOURS AND A NUMBER OF THE
PROBLEMS -
PROBLEMS .
LOU: OFTEN THAT ESCAPES THE
ATTENTION OF THE NATIONAL
LEFT-WING MEDIA THAT THE
PRESIDENT POLICY BALANCED TRADE,
RECIPROCAL TRADE, BEAR TRADE,
ARE ALREADY DRIVING US
MULTINATIONALS WHO HAVE INVESTED
IN OFFSHORE AND IN CHINA.
THOUGH SUPPLY CHAINS ARE MOVING
QUICKLY TO VIETNAM AND OTHER
SOUTHEASTERN NATIONS.
AS TO RUSSIAN NUCLEAR CAPABLE
FARMERS, TO IN THIS INSTANCE IN
VENEZUELA WE KNOW THE IRANIANS
ALSO HAVE INTEREST IN VENEZUELA
AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT ECUADOR IS
A VICTIM OF A CHINESE DEBT TRAP
THAT IS NOW COME DUE.
AND THEY TAKE AN EFFECTIVE
CONTROL OF THE CANAL.
THEY ARE DOMINATING PANAMA
WITHOUT ANY QUESTION WHATSOEVER.
THE US RESPONSE IN TERMS OF THE
MILITARY PRESENCE OF RUSSIA WHAT
SHOULD IT BE?
>> WE GO BACK TO 1962 AND THE
KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION DID
DURING THE MISSING CRIES OF IT
IN CUBA YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF
INSTALLATIONS WHICH ARE ONE
SOVIET AND MAY NOW BE RUSSIAN
AND THERE'S HINTS THAT THE
CHINESE ARE COMING BACK INTO
CUBA AND LISTENING TO OUR PHONE
CONVERSATION AND TRAFFIC.
LOU: DOES NOT BEEN A SINGLE
PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THOSE EMBASSY
PERSONNEL WHO WERE HIT BY SOME
SORT OF SONIC WEAPON AND MANY OF
WHOM HAD DEBILITATING
CONSEQUENCES WHO ARE STILL
INJURED AS A RESULT.
>> AND BECAUSE WE DO NOT DO
ANYTHING ON THE SONIC ATTACKS,
CHINESE HAS NOW DONE IN QUANDO
AGAINST US.
LOU: GORDON CHANG, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO
BE ALERT TO THE THREATS WHETHER
INVASION OF A CARAVAN OR CENTRAL
AMERICAN MIGRANTS OR WHETHER IT
BE THE PRESENCE OF NUCLEAR
CAPABLE FARMERS AND RUSSIAN
BOMBERS IN OUR HEMISPHERE OR
CHINA THAT FULLY NEEDS TO
DOMINATE, NOT JUST NATURAL
HEGEMONIC, SPHERE OF INFLUENCE
BUT THE WHOLE WORLD.
>> COLONIZE IS THE WORLD.
LOU: CHINA'S COLONIZATION OF
LATIN AMERICA.
WHATEVER YOU CALL IT IT'S A