You have been very honest about your inability
to facially identify celebrities.
You did a show about it. It is such a funny idea.
You don't know when you see celebrities often,
you don't know who they are.
Is that true?
That is very true.
It is not because I have facial recognition issues it is
because I just, I don't follow pop culture.
And so there is a lot of, I mean
the show is called Under a Rock,
if you wanna look it up.
But it is so fun. And we only did a couple of seasons.
Who is one of the biggest celebrities
that you failed to identify
like someone who came up to you
Kayley Cuoco.
Wait, oh, you mean, I thought you meant on the show.
No, just in general, whatever, wherever.
lady Gaga's assistant
Lady Gaga's assistant.
Lady Gaga's assistant was on and no,
out in just my regular life,
I had left the Star Trek wrap party
and was talking to the executive producer
and this woman came around the corner and she said,
Oh, TIG. Hi.
And I looked at her and I said, Hey, wait, were you just
at the Star Trek wrap party?
And I was in Toronto, I just assumed that's
Yeah, yeah. How she knew you.
And she said, No, it's me, Anne Hathaway.
Wow. That's a big star.
And I immediately was just like, oh my God, just,
I just wanna go home.
You know?
And I said, she said, I'm Anne.
She said, no, I'm Anne Hathaway.
I met you backstage at the Beck concert.
And I was like, right. Hi.
And I remember I called Stephanie after I got
up to my room and just said, I told her what had happened.
And she said, I love that Anne Hathaway
explained who she was by saying
it is me Anne Hathaway from backstage at Beck's concert.
And Stephanie said, and by the way
I remember when Anne introduced herself
to you backstage at Beck's concert,
she said but what she should have said
to you is it is me Anne Hathaway from Anne Hathaway.
No. It is insane to say hi,
I'm Tom cruise from the seven 11 on Pico.
Remember we were both in line
and we both wanted the same barbecue, slim jims.
And you were
You got it before I did.
You got it before I did it.
You were nice enough to break it in half.
Remember that?
I am so well aware of Anne Hathaway now
because I was mortified.
And I thought back that I did this show
that Anne was in, Beck was in,
put on at the Disney amphitheater
in downtown Los Angeles.
But I just, I just don't follow pop culture,
but I follow other things.
And that is what I always try to explain
to people who say how do you not know
who Anne Hathaway is?
Or how do you not know who, oh
you have never seen whatever show.
What about the commercial for the show?
And I am like, well, if I am not watching TV
then I am not seeing the commercial.
You know?
But I follow music and I follow documentaries
and I even follow, I love country music.
I love all types of music.
And I don't just like classic, cool country, you know?
I am familiar also with the newer country.
And so I always try and use that example with people of,
if I were to introduce, even though Brad Paisley,
there is newer country than Brad Paisley.
I remember I was at the Paul Simon tribute recently
and all these different country music singers
And even though you were there
you didn't know who Paul Simon was.
I am very aware of Paul Simon, but that is the thing.
Who is that little guy up there? What's happening?
The whole night. I am like, I am aware of who everyone is.
Even down to the country singer Eric Church.
And my friend who is sitting with me,
I am like, oh my God,
I said, oh my God, I love Eric Church.
And he is like, oh, I don't know who this guy is,
but that is a moment where I could turn and be like
how do you not know who Eric Church is?
Because it is stuff I follow,
so I would be projecting onto my friend,
why don't you know who Brad Paisley or Eric Church is?
You know.
See, my example is in the 1940s and fifties
there were about 25 celebrities.
And that is all there were.
And everybody knew who everybody was.
And so there is Jerry Lewis.
Oh my God.
You know, there is Jack Benny, here comes Doris Day.
Lady Gaga's assistant, Lady Gaga's assistant.
Right. Exactly.
But now, and I do believe it has been
I think it has been proven,
people that study the human brains
say that because the world has changed much more quickly
than we could ever, you know, than our brains could ever
adapt to.
So we have these brains that are meant to know about
45 people in a village.
That is kind of what we are supposed to know.
And yet we are being asked to know,
what are you talking about?
It is The Biggest Loser.
Don't you know, you know
That's Jerry from The Biggest Loser.
who lost 25 pounds in a week.
That is Jerry Hallahan who lost 25 pounds.
And then he cried when he accidentally broke down
and ate all that custard out of a milk pail, you know?
And, and, and
I know, but I know who Eric Church is
I know, but I am constantly, when I go into,
you know, the supermarket and I am going
through the checkout thing, I will see a magazine.
And I won't know who anybody is on the cover.
Because it will say things like, you know,
Sheila tells Brooke Benson
you have got one last chance, buddy boy.
And I don't know who any of them are.
And then I always look up at, it says, Sheila,
from You've Got an Onion, That's My Hat.
And Brooke Benson from, you know,
Got a Dollar, I'll Give You a Peso,
you know, reality shows.
This is all real.
No, there's a guy named Ant Antstead.
I don't know.
I don't know who that is.
I know. I know who he is.
Who is he?
I ask my listeners and we have a lot of listeners.
We are this isn't, you know, we are this
isn't some punk ass operation.
We have got a lot of listeners out there.
Who the fuck is Ant Antstead,
because I'll just see things that are
like Ant Antstead said, I don't know.
That since the breakup, I'm still pretty sad.
Yep. You should have Ant on here.
Yeah. Well, no, we can't find him.
We've been looking.
He doesn't exist. I've never even heard the name.
Who is he?
He used to date the woman who was on,
I think it was Flip or Flop.
And then they got married. Then they broke up.
And now he's dating Renee Zellweger, so.
So like now we are on solid ground.
because I know who Renee Zellweger is.
I know she is.
But what you did is it took you seven moves.
He was on Flip Flap and Fly.
And he was with Janine and then, then
She got the onion.
Right. Then she got the onion and he went over to
For a peso. And then Renee.
Yeah. And then they went over
to the show Who Wants to Buy a Mule and then
I'd watch that.
And then they split up
and then they went with, you know, and
and what happens is it is this system that
and I honestly, it it is no skin off my back.
I just don't know who these people are.
And I don't have enough time in life to figure it out.
Well, you know, it is funny because there is also,
I only did two seasons.
We lost our sponsor for Under a Rock.
It was people loved the show.
I think you just met your sponsor and
didn't know who it was.
And that's how you, hello, who the fuck are you?
I'm the guy.
I'm Ant Antstead from Flop Flippity Flu.
I can't believe you don't know who I am.
I'm the sponsor.
I'm canceling this show.
That is what happened.
We could get, maybe we can get Hop
to sponsor the next season of Under a Rock.
But we, what was the, oh, Stephanie asked me recently
if I knew who this woman was.
Gosh, I don't, I don't know her name,
but she is, this is going nowhere.
But Stephanie always has those moments of like, oh my God
that would be the perfect person for Under a Rock.
So she is on that HBO show.
That is like really popular.
Euphoria?
Oh, it is Zendaya?
Yeah. Zendaya. I had never heard of her.
Oh my, yeah, And here is the thing.
What happens is that you have kids
and I know all this stuff through my kids,
your kids are too young.
So they know like who the Wiggles are.
But they are not gonna say, oh my God, Zendaya.
My kids inform me, this is where I get all my information.
You know, now occasionally I try and give them information.
You know, there was a Civil War in America.
1861 to 1865. I get shut down.
Could be another.
Could be another, any day now. I get shut down fast.
But, dammit, I know who Zendaya is.
My wife thought Mick Jagger's last name
was Irish, like McJagger.
Well that is, I mean, that is horrifying.
I shouldn't out her like that, but like
she didn't know his name was Mick, like Micky Jagger.
She thought, she didn't know his first name
and thought his last name was McJagger.
And she thought John and Paul was
JohnandPaul, one person.
She thought there were three people in the Beatles.
There's JohnandPaul.
And then there's Ringo and George.
That is, that is a little scary.
She doesn't know who Mick Jagger is.
But you guys remember like the third lead
from a show in the seventies that was on for one season.
Let's say you guys know that stuff.
But that is important.
Oh, that is more important than like Zendaya or
I do know minor character actors.
There was a guy who always played the old man in TV shows
in the seventies and his name was Bert Mustin.
And as a kid, he would show up on
like Archie Bunker saying where I,
I lost my penny you know?
And I, can you help me Archie Bunker?
And I'd go like, Hey, it's Bert Mustin!
On the latest episode that just came out.
You referenced Tova Borgnine's lawyer,
Ernest Borgnine's wife's lawyer.
Yeah, Tova of course.
I always knew stuff like that.
I am just saying that my mind is filled now.
And I know lots of arcane stuff about history.
And I know lots of minor characters in history.
So what happens is your brain gets filled and now
the doorbell rings and it is Ant Antstead.
And he is saying, can I have a brain cell?
May I borrow one?
And I'm like, no
No because you don't want to give up Burt Mustin.
I was gonna, can he, can he take
Tova Burt Borgnine's spot?
No, I'm with you, no.
Ernest Borgnine was the shit.
And he, and Tova Borgnine really got him through a lot.
She was a rock.
But your entire career was about like pop culture
and like promoting things.
Like how do you not know this stuff?
I will often say, oh, that person seems really great.
I wish I knew more about them.
And people will say they were on your show seven times
from 1993 to, you know, 2022.
And I am not purposefully avoiding stuff.
It is just, it is not, I am not, there is certain things.
I am just not, it is not, it is just not on my radar.
It is so crazy now because there are some people
who start out on the fringe
and then they become so big just through this process.
That is mysterious to all of us
that everyone has to reckon with them.
It just occurred to me that Vladimir Putin
knows who Pete Davidson is.
Like you know that Vladimir Putin has been like,
has you seen, he was not has not been on SNL
for several weeks, you know?
And is Pete Davidson. And they are like you gotta
really focus on the war we are in right now.
Okay. But I is troubling. I don't know he is going to leave.
Is he with the Jenners now?
How does it work?
Does he go with the Kardashians?
You know, like you know that that is
how big Pete Davidson is now and God bless him.
But he is that, that huge figures that
are affect the future of the world.
He is taking up one or two brain cells in there.
And you know, Ant Antstead, has not quite achieved that yet
but he is getting there because he is in my head.
Now I've mentioned
We're talking about him, on this huge podcast.
Well, of course, because he was
on Flop Flipped and Flun, you know.
Flip or Flop.
Well, no was it We'll Fix Your Flu.
It was a show about chimneys.
So it is just a show about beach sandals.
You guys don't, you guys don't watch HGTV at all.
Only when I'm in a hotel.
Oh, it's the best.