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okay this is Q&A week 19 so we're really
getting through it and our first
question is from and a meek what do you
think of holistic management in terms of
solutions for grasslands and dedication
is it the ultimate solution for global
crisis that savory makes it sound like
it it's in his TED talk secondarily are
you familiar with the holistic
management decision-making framework
apparently this is not published on the
web anywhere you have to buy the book
and when I've asked related questions
I've been told you need the whole
framework to understand which as I
mentioned can only be obtained by buying
this would be called mal Educare toe in
Italy
well nice terminology okay this is a
cattle sell we're in a cattle cell right
now and these are some of my beef cows
and a couple of the dairy cows and some
of the young calves coming through we
use a sell grazing method like holistic
management and it works great it's a
great system it's ideal where you have
grasslands savannas and prairies where
you had large herds or animals moving
very quickly tight packed by predators
where they eat everything off to the
ground imprint the ground where their
hooves drop massive amounts of manure
and then move quickly and maybe don't
return for one or two years even and
that's what built those prairie and
Savannah soils so ideal in that
situation but we're in the subtropics
but there there are there are systems
there that are useful this is a cell
grazing system that improves the soil so
you can look at that that as a a
technique with a principle of how it
repairs the land so we graze off here
they imprint the ground they drop quite
a lot of manure
and we move them and we bring them back
before the tall clumping grasses start
to seed so it's a it's a system that
actually improves the soil so these are
systems that work and you can apply
these systems through different climates
but you can't say it's the only thing
that is going to actually repair that
the global what are we saying here it's
the solution with grasslands and desert
ocation well if you're saying that the
grasslands have turned into desert and
you can bring them back with cell
grazing yeah that's right
but it's not the only thing that works
you can't say that you know grazing
animals and the only part of the
ecosystem we need to manage it's all
about balance and interactive diversity
now we can say that humans are the only
things we have to manage but it's it's
not that's not true it's a complete
combination of elements that we need to
manage there are there are multiple
elements that need to come into balance
I mean we design your toilets we design
your local economics we design your
aquaculture system and the most those
things won't be benefited by cows
grazing the right way or any grazing
animals grazing the right way
I love these systems I love all these
wonderful systems they work wonderfully
well and as long as they're applied with
ethics they work with permaculture
they're fantastic but it is true we need
a holistic design now as far as our
principles there are many many
principles out there in in many systems
and they all work fine but dropping a
bit of paper here if you look at
permaculture - the book permaculture -
chapter one bill outlines permaculture
principles and they're very similar
look at the camera man's getting knocked
around by one of young balls here so
this is big boy and he's not too light
over and he's certainly having a bit of
fun with us here but this is cell
grazing for you and it's his territory
and I'm in it and so
romancer bear witnesses here is the
funny stat the Q&A number 19 but
nevermind
so permaculture principles as quoted in
permaculture - by Bill Mollison and
listen at the similarity here and I know
that bill said many times to me Jeff
don't worry so much about principles
worried about how you convert principles
into directives to act convert your
principles into directives to act and go
into action because you can argue
forever about which principle which set
of principles that's what we think
matter do they go into action and get a
result that's truly beneficial and
sustainable and benefit in all life
systems not just grazing systems but all
systems now let's listen to this
permaculture principles permaculture -
Bill Mollison number one introduction
then relative location each element
performs many functions each important
function is supported by many elements
of efficient energy planning using
biological resources energy cycling
small scale intensive systems
accelerating succession and evolution
diversity edge effects and attitudinal
principles and then he goes on at the
NSA references and further reading
because he knows there are and we should
all know there are many ideas about what
set of principles should be used and
they probably all work this is the thing
they all work all these different
elements that are hello big boy this is
my young ball here coming to maturity
and still quite friendly hopefully he
stays friendly and he doesn't charge me
right now in front of you but this is
you know as long as their ethical they
work this is the thing about
permaculture it works with all of these
systems by dynamics keyline rangeland
management
holistic penetrant soil food we have you
know all Brickman rules I think I've
said by Dynamix organic oh they're all
work what you need isn't an
integrated plan that gives you a
diversity that connects it together as a
holistic system of design
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